Mayor Bloomberg Offers Top Teachers $20,000 Raise

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First Posted: 01/12/12 02:17 PM ET Updated: 01/12/12 03:17 PM ET


By Joan Gralla

Jan 12 (Reuters) - New York City teachers who are rated "highly effective" for two years in a row would get a $20,000-a-year salary increase, as part of the mayor's renewed push to improve schools.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, in his annual State of the City address, focused heavily on education, challenging the United Federation of Teachers, to accept his approach to weeding out teachers deemed less effective.

"The education reforms we've pioneered over the past decade - no matter what the naysayers say - have been widely adopted by school systems across the nation, but this year we'll be putting our foot on the gas and picking up the pace," he said in prepared remarks.

Bloomberg has asked voters to hold him accountable for improving the nation's biggest school system with 1.1 million teachers. But the city lost $58 million in federal funding for 33 schools because its way of evaluating teachers was not deemed satisfactory.

Though the powerful teachers' union has blocked stiffer performance evaluations for the vast majority of the school system, Bloomberg said he has the authority to form committees at those 33 schools to rate teachers and replace up to 50 percent of them. That evaluation program will be put in place, he said, a move that likely will anger the union.

Bloomberg also said he is offering to forgive $25,000 of student loans for teachers who finish in the top tier of their college classes.

The mayor also noted that a long-stalled effort to turn the now vacant Kingsbridge Armory in the Bronx into a business center, one of his job-creating initiatives, is being revived.

Bloomberg said that the cost of his new initiatives will be paid for by making government more efficient, including consolidating some city operations and selling three city-owned office buildings in Lower Manhattan to raise $300 million.

Weaker revenues and layoffs on Wall Street, New York City's economic engine, have taken a bite out of the Big Apple's tax revenues, forcing Bloomberg to close a budget gap. (Reporting by Joan Gralla; Editing by Jan Paschal)

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07:44 PM on 02/03/2012
I think you all are rediculous because you are all fighting the same battle. Your students aren't getting what they need from your city so instead of insulting each other why not help each other. Teachers can't do everything, they can't raise your children for you but at the same time you need to be supporting each other. Because as parents we can't educate our children to their fullest extent when we have to work full time at three or four jobs to pay the rent. I think instead, of parents insulting teachers that want to be there for your children or teachers insulting the parents that are actually there for their kids everynight, why not come up with a plan to use that extra money he thinks he can come up with and put it to use the right ways. Like more or better supplies, better security at schools, more staff to help with special ed needs or a tutoring program after school for those students that do care.
08:33 AM on 01/17/2012
The objective is suppose to be to weed out the inept educators and replace them with competent ones- not over pay those that do a good job. Please keep your eye on the ball Mayor.
12:15 PM on 01/18/2012
If you think these people are overpaid, surely your response should be to become a teacher?
08:22 AM on 01/17/2012
Great. So does this mean he's going to put media maven Cathie Black back on the payroll again? She's still an educator's educator, right?
foresure
Brash and Harsh
12:33 AM on 01/15/2012
Read what the teachers have to say, and you'll see the problems.
06:38 AM on 01/15/2012
I have a few questions i hope someone could answer them:
1) Equity Project charter schools pay their teachers 125,000 dollars per year and they can be fired any time but only 31% of the students at this school pass the new york standardiz­­­­­­­­­­e­d tests, why if this school is supposed to get the best teachers money can buy?
Link: http://pro­­­­­­­ject­s­.­n­y­t­­i­­me­s.­c­o­m­/­n­e­­w­-y­o­rk­­-­sc­­h­oo­­­ls-t­­­e­st-­­­s­co­r­e­s­/c­o­­u­n­ti­e­­­s/n­ew­-­­­­yor­k/­d­­­­istr­ic­­t­­­­s/ne­w-y­­o­­­­­rk-c­ity­-­d­­­­­istr­­ict­-­6­/­­­­scho­­o­ls­/­t­h­­­e­-equ­­i­­ty­-­p­r­o­­j­ect-­­c­­­ha­r­ter­­-­­s­choo­­­l
2) Why KIPP and SUCCESS charter schools suspend almost half it's students?, if they hire the good teachers and fire the bad ones suspension­­­­­­­­­­s are not supposed to happen in charter schools, period!
Link: http://www­­­­­­­­­­.­e­x­a­m­i­­n­­e­­r­­.­­­c­o­m­/­­c­h­­a­r­­­t­e­­­r­-s­­­c­ho­­­o­­ls­­­-­­i­n­­­-­wa­s­­­­h­in­g­­­­­t­on­-­­­­d­c­/k­i­­­­­p­p­-a­­d­­­­­mit­­s-­­t­­­­­­o-h­­ig­­­h­­­­­-stu­­­de­­­n­­­­­­t-at­­t­ri­­­t­­­­­­­ion-­­r­­at­e­s
http://art­­­­­­­­­­i­c­l­e­s­.­­b­­a­­l­­t­­­i­m­o­r­­e­s­­u­n­­­.­c­­­o­m/­­­2­01­­­1­­-0­­­3­­-­3­­­1­/n­e­­­­w­s/­b­­­­­s­-m­d­­­­-­k­ip­p­­­­­-­s­tu­­d­­­­­y-2­­01­­1­­­­­­033­­1_­­­1­­­­­_kip­­­p-­­­s­­­­­­choo­­l­s-­­­k­­­­­­­ipp-­­u­­ji­m­a­­­­­­­­-vil­­l­­­ag­e­-­a­­­­­­­cade­­­m­­­y-­w­­e­s­­­­­t­­ern-­­­m­­­­ic­h­­i­­g­­a­­n­­-­rep­­­o­­­­­rt
3) If good teachers are supposed to being capable of teaching any kind of students and charters schools are center of educationa­­­­­­­­­­l innovation , why they reject special education students?
Link http://www­­­­­­­­­­.­n­y­t­i­m­­e­­s­­.­­c­­­o­m­/­2­­0­1­­1­/­­­0­7­­­/­11­­­/­ny­­­r­­eg­­­i­­o­n­­­/­ch­a­­­­r­te­r­­­­­-­sc­h­­­­o­o­l-­s­­­­­e­n­ds­­-­­­­­mes­­sa­­g­­­­­­e-t­­hr­­­i­­­­­ve-o­­­r-­­­t­­­­­­rans­­f­er­­­.­­­­­­­html­­?­­pa­g­e­­­­­­­­want­­e­­­d=­a­l­l
4) If politician­­­­­­­­­­s complain that bad teachers hurt students, why they do not complain when special education students are rejected by charter schools?
Link: http://www­­­­­­­­­­.­s­p­l­c­e­­n­­t­­e­­r­­­.­o­r­g­­/­g­­e­t­­­-­i­­­n­fo­­­r­me­­­d­­/n­­­e­­w­s­­­/­sp­l­­­­c­-c­o­­­­­m­pl­a­­­­i­n­t-­c­­­­­h­i­ld­­r­­­­­en-­­wi­­t­­­­­­h-d­­is­­­a­­­­­bili­­­ti­­­e­­­­­­s-fa­­c­e-­­­d­­­­­­­iscr­­i­­mi­n­a­­­­­­­­tion­­-­­­in­-­n­e­­­­­­­w-or­­­l­­­ea­n­­s­-­­­­­s­­choo­­­l
foresure
Brash and Harsh
12:30 AM on 01/15/2012
Keep in mind the core argument in the posts below.

Despite that fact that are evalualtions done for every human endeavor known to man, it is beyond the abillity of all the psychologist, actuaries, mathemeticians, statisticians and academics in the education business to design a test of teacher effectiveness.

It is an insult, a grave offense, to evaluate teachers.

This is the BIG TEACHER LIE.

They have become to believe it because they are terrified what might be discovered.

When the took the job teaching they believed, so long as they came to work, did not seduce more than one student every few years, avoided alcohol on the breath at school, and could remember where their classroom was they would get regular raises, and could look forward to a nice pension.

Now, all of a sudden the are asked the be accountable. THE SHAME.

Accoutability leads to four things:

1. Big raises for the best. Bloombers thought.

2. Fair raises for the "adequate"

3. No raises for the lousy.

4. Termination for the useless.

Termination is unthinkable. After a few years teachers allow their academic skills to atrophy, and the energy needed to teach is consumed in unproductive ways.

Those that have burned out, and have become bitter serving in the "trenches" deeply fear having to compete in the real economy.
12:37 AM on 01/18/2012
The Mayor advocates that teachers are paid to the relative success of the students they teach but he apparently gives no consideration to those students' IQ, attendance and discipline records or even their ability to understand the English language. This is one reason I think politicians and business men shouldn't be involved in educational decisions and the reason our public school systems are dysfunctional.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
01:13 PM on 01/18/2012
kingston401

Thank you for your recitation of the Teacher Catechism.

It really is unfair to call it the Teacher Big Lie because it is a statement of faith.

Remember, the teacher ethos:

"Success is NOT an option".
12:16 PM on 01/18/2012
you're just a bitter, resentful, useless tool.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
03:02 PM on 01/18/2012
Just a passerby:

And you madam, are the perfect example of a teacher who years "in the trenches" has learned how to communicate in an effect manner.

You have satisfied by hypothesis as to why bullying is endemic in public schools.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
12:21 AM on 01/15/2012
Note the teachers' reponses?

1. We can't be evaluated or held accountable.

2. There is no way to improve the delivery of education in America.

3. The only thing to do is to spread money around on all teachers the good, the mediocre, the alcholic, those with dementia, all of them.

4. Google "New York City teacher rubber room". It has changed some, but not a whole lot. Basically the rule in #3 is fairly strictly adhered to.
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blindjester
English and ESL teacher
08:59 PM on 01/14/2012
Why is everything a competition? Every show on the food channel, every stupid reality show.

He wants to make teaching a competition. Winners and losers among the kids, winners and losers among the teachers.

We already know that incentives don't work. That's been proven over and over. Why keep trying it?
Tara Hunkoff
I could have been Sheila Noyeau
12:40 PM on 01/29/2012
Life is a competition. This does not mean that compassion does not exist, nor does it mean that winners-take-all while others suffer, but it does mean that all life prospers according to its ability to prevail. We ignore this truth at our peril.

Incentives do work, if they are truly incentives, and they are offered to those who have the talent to pursue a goal that is not impossible to reach.

I presume none of the teachers in this discussion think kids are impossible to teach, I grant that physical, social, emotional and financial problems can make learning hard for a kid, but we are talking here about teaching, not learning.

There are well-understood statistical methods that can measure test score variance attributable to all the factors mentioned above. No competent teacher has anything to fear from a statistically valid test of students.
03:08 PM on 01/14/2012
Just one question, where's the money going to come from. New Yorkers pay approx 19,000 per student per year now and my school taxes are extremely high here in Upstate. For a state that is going bankrupt, he sure talks big.
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Venicelady
Ignorance is NOT bliss.
03:14 PM on 01/14/2012
Bloomberg has already tried his version of merit pay for teachers, back in 2007.

This is just another form of it- didn't work then to increase student achievement, won't work now.

Bloomberg needs to come out of his bubble, spend a week in an inner city school incognito, take notes, learn, and see what are the real problems that affect student achievement in the classrooms. It would be quite the eye opener for him....
05:19 PM on 01/14/2012
He wouldn't last 10 minutes in a classroom. He needs to retire to the Hamptons.
12:11 PM on 01/14/2012
Bribery. Nothing to do with education.
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07:56 AM on 01/14/2012
Do school administrators perform the evaluations?

Does this become a give away program for the favorites of the school administrators?

Or do all teachers suddenly get "highly effective" evaluations?

What happens when this previously effective teacher becomes ineffective? Does the raise get taken away?

Where is the accountability?
09:17 PM on 01/13/2012
Stupid idea from a stupid man.
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megandvc
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
09:16 PM on 01/13/2012
A teacher can do only so much, I would not want to be a teacher in the NYC school system. A teacher can't force a parent to make sure that the child is studying and doing his/her homework. At the end of the day, the child goes home, and if the parent doesn't reinforce what the child learned in school, it's pointless. And what about the Principals? Are they not responsible too? It is their job to oversee the teachers. And how does ANYONE assume one teacher can teach a class of 30 plus kids? With limited supplies? The school system is messed up, and it's not just "bad" teachers, it's bad parents and administrators. Of course you blame the teachers, theyre the least paid. I live in S.I. New York . I have 4 kids in the public school system, some f these kids are animals. We are lucky to be in a good district, and I can honestly say, most of the teachers are caring, hard working, underpaid men and women. And I support you and salute you.
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megandvc
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09:45 PM on 01/13/2012
PS, I didnt mean MY kids are animals..lol I meant other kids. just wanted to clarify that! :)
03:53 AM on 01/14/2012
Humans: Kingdom Animalia, Phylum Chordata, Subphyllum Vertebrata, Class Mamal, order Primate, Family Hominidae, Species Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Yes Virginia we are animals, we have a reptilian brain and is hard for us humans to control our animal instincts. Yes Virginia there are human animal instincts they are study in ethology the field of biology that study the evolution of behavior.
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megandvc
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10:01 AM on 01/14/2012
tell me more!
05:32 AM on 01/13/2012
A scenario: a very creative teacher comes up with brilliant ways to teach kids and to raise their test scores. Ideally, he/she would share these techniques with colleagues, so all the kids would benefit. But then again, why tell everybody, when those precise methods can earn you $20,000?
djo2013
We're all doing the best we can.
10:00 PM on 01/13/2012
I've long thought that. If a teacher gets a great idea, why risk losing future bonuses? I think people don't realize how much better teachers get when they have lots of time to work and plan with each other, and how much teachers like it when they get better at the job.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
12:32 AM on 01/15/2012
Jens:

Good contribution to the Big Teacher Lie. Good thing other trades don't think like you do.
02:26 AM on 01/13/2012
Unless you are a teacher, please stop telling us what does and does not motivate us. Teachers are not the ones who need the motivation, the students do. Unfortunately, in this day and age, we have yet to figure out just what in the heck will motivate a 21st century slacker to actually want to learn something and to try to work hard (or at all) in school.
11:19 AM on 01/13/2012
You should not be a teacher if you beleive all students are slackers. Remember who you work for the taxpayer. And no you are not a taxpayer you give us 20 cents back of teh dollar we give you. Step up
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SF TKF
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11:48 AM on 01/13/2012
Teachers are not taxpayers? WTF?
09:17 PM on 01/13/2012
Well, considering the bailouts, taxbreaks, incentives etc... we all work the taxpayer.
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kathy smelser
03:00 PM on 01/13/2012
ok so maybe the simple solution to the problem is to give each and every child 20,000 to motivate them to graduate that way we do not need to know what motivates a teacher ...20,000 will motivate any child to do more
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twinkie1cat
01:08 AM on 01/13/2012
Could someone please print out all these comments and send them to Bloomberg? He really needs to read them. Being a Republican he probably won't listen at first, but eventually they might sink in since the same thing is being said over and over.

Meanwhile, tell him not to give Louisiana's Bobby Jindal any more campaign money and that the teachers would appreciate it if he would not send one of his boys to be our State Superintendent. Both of those things were interstate political interference. Bobby can do bad all by himself. What could a New York Teach for America possibly know about the schools in Louisiana which is mostly rural and very southern?