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China Unrest As Tibetan Sets Self On Fire

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By GILLIAN WONG   01/14/12 10:04 PM ET   AP

BEIJING -- Security forces clashed with angry Tibetans in southwestern China, shooting one person, after a man set himself on fire in the latest protest against Chinese rule, activist groups said.

Local residents began to protest Saturday after seeing police severely beat the man who set himself on fire as they put out the flames, the London-based International Campaign for Tibet said.

"Tibetans at the scene became very distressed and angry and gathered together in what seems to be an impromptu demonstration," Kate Saunders of the group wrote in an email.

Little was known about the person who set himself on fire, although the group cited its sources as saying he was a man and that he was not a monk.

It and the London-based group Free Tibet said a woman was shot during the unrest.

At least 16 Buddhist monks, nuns and other Tibetans are now believed to have set themselves on fire in the past year – including four in the past week – mostly in traditionally Tibetan areas of Sichuan province. Most have chanted for Tibetan freedom and the return of their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, who fled to India amid an abortive uprising against Chinese rule in 1959.

Woeser, a Beijing-based Tibetan poet and activist, posted accounts of the unrest on Twitter that were similar to those reported by the groups.

"A young Tibetan person self-immolated ... the local area has erupted in public protests and marches, and they have been met with military police fire and suppression. There are Tibetan casualties," she wrote. Like some Tibetans, Woeser uses just one name.

The claims could not be independently confirmed. Calls to Aba county's police bureau rang unanswered. A man who answered the phone Sunday at the Aba prefecture government said they hadn't received any reports about a self-immolation or clashes and then hung up. People answering the phones at the lower Aba county and township governments also said they had no information.

Heavy security has turned Aba and the surrounding area into a virtual restricted zone since an anti-government uprising across Tibetan communities in 2008, and foreign reporters have had little or no access.

China chooses Buddhist leaders in Tibet and wants to pick a pro-Beijing successor to the Dalai Lama, whom Beijing considers to be a separatist. China says Tibet has been part of its territory for centuries, but many Tibetans say the Himalayan region was virtually independent for most of that time.

Chinese authorities routinely deny Tibetan claims of repression, although they have confirmed some self-immolations and accused supporters of the Dalai Lama of encouraging such acts. The Dalai Lama and representatives of the self-declared Tibetan government-in-exile in India say they oppose all violence.

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11:36 PM on 01/18/2012
@Shylove2 No, it would very quickly become a US colony right in the heart of China. It doesn't even make sense racially to split Tibet from China since the majority of its people are Han Chinese who share the same language, culture, political system, legal system, etc with the rest of China.
06:49 PM on 01/16/2012
So these monks are more distressed by police saving the guy's life than watching a man being burned alive? And they really need to take a crash course on fire safety, beginning with some basic understand of how fires are put out.
Twisted minds and twisted cult, that's all that need to be said about this "religion"
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
12:07 PM on 01/16/2012
Let's hope their superiors in the monastic order who encourage and/or look aside when these deeply offensive suicide acts take place are arrested and incarcerated for long stretches.
03:57 AM on 01/19/2012
How are the self-immolations "deeply offensive"? Shocking, yes. Alarming. Disturbing. The only avenue left for Tibetans desperate to voice their grievances against Chinese colonialism is to commit suicide dramatically and publicly. This is very sad and upsetting. But offensive? Gee, I'm so sorry Tibetans offended you with their desperate attempts to protest their situation.
shylove2
warfare state is pathological
08:28 PM on 01/15/2012
Tibet would make an excellent autonomous region as a buffer between China and India and a gobetween with understanding of both ancient cultures... the US lecturing is rather hypocritical howvever given our illegal invasion of Iraq and our historyy with our indigenous people... Tibet and othe indigenous areas around the world should be designated interantiol cultural treessures to be protected and preserved rather than melted into a melting pot ideal. At lest 5 American self immolated during the Vietnam War but few heard of it nad it did little to slow our wars for lies and deception but it was also a valient sacrifice in the face of the warfare state.
06:48 AM on 01/16/2012
Agreed.
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
12:04 PM on 01/16/2012
Nice banal PCisms in support of people burning themselves to death.
This is a path of delusion for those who participate in it and those who support it.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
06:56 PM on 01/15/2012
What was the big idea of including Tibet in China's borders when they drew up the borders anyway?
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Marco Lanz
02:03 AM on 01/16/2012
Tibet and China have long had diplomatic relationships, through treaty and marriage, though the extent at which China has claim to such land is disputed by various Tibetans.

Basically China is laying claim to the land known as Tibet due to communication and agreements which date to the Ming Dynasty. It is the same game China is trying to play in the South China Sea. They are using out of date, pre 1949 (the establishment of modern China) agreements//treaties/hearsay/promises, to grab land which for all intents and purposes could belong to another nation or be completely sovereign itself.

If China wanted to ingratiate itself to the Tibetans (beyond simply throwing cash at them) it would ease its policies towards Tibetan Buddhist practices and religious hierarchy, while maintaining its control over the land.

If they can keep the people happy they won't complain nearly as much about being subjected as Chinese citizens, despite the fact they have their own language, cultural, traditions, and history.

Furthermore, simply saying Tibet should be free is to misunderstand the issue. Tibet gets a lot of money for business development and infrastructure development that it simply wouldn't have if China were not involved.
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Cammi Vaughan
Listening is giving.
10:36 AM on 01/16/2012
Also gets China's nuclear waste dumped there.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
02:18 PM on 01/16/2012
That's true. Michael Parenti noted that Tibet was no Shangri-La before China took over.
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Sock Monkey
Deceive. Inveigle. Obfuscate. The DC mantra.
06:26 PM on 01/15/2012
Waiting for the chastisement from the State Dept to come over China's treatment of Tibet.

Waiting........waiting.......waiting........waiting........CRITICAL SYSTEM ERROR. State Dept. not found.
Cantinflas
My micro-bio is not empty.
03:22 PM on 01/15/2012
"China chooses Buddhist leaders in Tibet and wants to pick a pro-Beijing successor to the Dalai Lama, whom Beijing considers to be a separatist. China says "

The Chinese pick their own versions of the reincarnated lamas and they might not even be Tibetan, like the Chinese version of the Karmapa. However, the Tibetans have not given up their right to recognize who they believe are the reincarnations of dead lamas.
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Stoopid American
Trooth, justice, and the American way ...
02:31 PM on 01/15/2012
Another report of unrest in China makes its way out of the Great Firewall of China. Just remember, folks, that for every story we hear about there are dozens, if not hundreds, that we do not. China will reach a tipping point within the next decade unless real reforms occur.
02:11 PM on 01/15/2012
“At least 16 Buddhist monks, nuns and other Tibetans are now believed to have set themselves on fire in the past year”. Adding to his many accomplishments in the area of civil rights now Obama is ready to offer his deepest condolences to the families of the dead martyrs.
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KIVPossum
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02:34 PM on 01/15/2012
Got to have a lot of Obama h8 to bring him into this conversation.
04:21 PM on 01/15/2012
There is no hate in my soul but there is fear in my mind of Obama is doing to this country. Now, if you a lover of Obama can answer this please; Do you hate me because I offer my opinion in the Huffpost? or Do you hate any one you disagree with? Sometimes I feel like the snake in the in the Huff paradise peddling the fruit from the tree of knowledge.
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HanMeiRen
May already be guilty by association...
12:05 PM on 01/15/2012
Another day, another brainwashed Tibetan monk perished in self-inflicted flames calling for the name of the Dalai Lama.
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Cammi Vaughan
Listening is giving.
12:29 PM on 01/15/2012
It was a civilian, not a monk.
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HanMeiRen
May already be guilty by association...
04:08 PM on 01/16/2012
This is from Voice of America, the official external broadcast institution of the US federal government:

国际声援西藏运动(ICT)传媒部主任凯特桑德斯对美国之音说:“这次事件是昨天发生的。一名男性平民在中国的阿坝地区自焚,此人看来曾是一名僧人。”

Quote from Kate Saunders: “…A male civilian self-immolated in China’s Aba. It seems that this man used to be a monk.”

http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20120115-Gerdeng-Lamasery-137373963.html
03:22 PM on 01/15/2012
yes, a colonized people demanding right to self-rule are brainwashed
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Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
11:55 AM on 01/15/2012
the man sets himself on fire, but the crowd gets angry because police tried to put out the fire.
Astonishing.
These people don't deserve independence.
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Stoopid American
Trooth, justice, and the American way ...
02:32 PM on 01/15/2012
"These people don't deserve independen­ce."

Wow, one of the most ignorant things I've seen at HP in awhile. You really should make an effort to understand even the basics of Buddhist culture before you say things like this.
10:51 AM on 01/17/2012
maybe you should understand the difference between buddism vs tibet buddism and tibet serfdom
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Parkite
Still haven't found what I'm looking for
05:11 PM on 01/15/2012
They were BEATING him in the guise of putting out the fire.
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oneyippie
Leaning far to your left
11:48 AM on 01/15/2012
How long before the Chinese Propaganda Machine makes its appearance in these comments?

FREE TIBET!

China represses Tibet and its Muslim populations. China will never be a Free Country except for Communist Party apparatchiks and Greedy Capitalists.

Time to OCCUPY TIBET!
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
06:57 PM on 01/15/2012
Don't forget Uighurstan.
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
11:31 AM on 01/15/2012
How desperately oppressed would you have to be to set yourself on fire

as a means of protest??

China's genocidal actions are transparent and repugnant to modern civilization.
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Parkite
Still haven't found what I'm looking for
04:32 PM on 01/15/2012
That is what happened in Tunsia.
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Marco Lanz
02:08 AM on 01/16/2012
Despite having 5,000 years of supposed civilization, modern China and its people are still living in the bronze age.
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Jeff Forsythe
09:57 AM on 01/15/2012
Gee, we wouldn't want anyone to have a negative image of the brutal Chinese Communist Party.
It seems to me that there are a few facts concerning human rights that should be taken into consideration.
The fact that the brutal Chinese Communist Party has murdered 80 million of its own people since 1949, the fact that it is attempting the genocide of tens of millions of innocent Falun Gong practitioners by the use of torture, slavery, organ harvesting and murder. The fact that there are hundreds of slave camps hidden all over Red China where all the junk that is sold here is being produced. The fact that a million homes were demolished to build the Olympic Complex with no compensation offered to the poor families who lost everything ­. The fact that 64 kindergard­en children were riding in a nine seat van when it crashed and 15 of the children died while rich Party members buy their girlfriend­s million dollar apartments in Paris. The fact that the poor pay twelve different taxes while the rich pay nary one.
All of these human rights issues I mentioned are true but the Government­s of the World are not informing its citizens because then some very rich greedy corporatio­ns might lose out on some business deal with the gangster Chinese regime.
Just my understanding, thank you.
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ABDUL KADER
08:54 AM on 01/15/2012
Have coward American government courage to interfere in that part of the world?
Killing only helpless Muslims mercilessly!