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South Carolina Photo ID Law Draws Heated Rhetoric From Republican Presidential Candidates

South Carolina Photo Id Law

Posted: 01/15/12 07:54 PM ET

(Reuters) - The state that fired the first shot in the Civil War is once again battling the U.S. government in a racially charged conflict that is drawing heated rhetoric from Republican presidential candidates.

South Carolina is in a standoff with Democratic President Barack Obama's administration over a new state law that would require residents to produce a photo ID before they could vote. Federal officials say it could disproportionately keep black voters away from the polls.

For South Carolina's Republican leaders - and Republican presidential candidates seeking support in the state's primary on January 21 - the Justice Department's move is the latest in a series of intrusions into state business by Washington.

Republican candidates are waving the banner of states' rights as they tout their small-government credentials.

"Each of our states are under assault right now by this administration," Texas Governor Rick Perry said Saturday at a candidates' forum in Charleston. "We may be under assault - South Carolina, they're actually at war with you."

Such declarations might make for smart politics in a state that has a suspicion of Washington woven into its DNA, but they risk stirring up the race-baiting that has been an ugly feature of South Carolina politics in the past.

The rallying cry of states' rights was used to defend slavery before the Civil War and racial segregation during the post-World War Two battles over civil rights.

Recently, South Carolina Republicans have argued that the federal government is interfering in their plans for education, healthcare, labor law, immigration policy and voting.

In South Carolina, Perry hasn't been the only Republican presidential candidate to inject controversial imagery into discussions of states' rights and bloated federal programs.

Former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich has called Obama a "food stamp president" and suggested that low-income children should clean their schools to learn the value of work and replace unionized janitors.

And former Senator Rick Santorum said last week the coming election would be the most important since 1860, the year before the Civil War began. He has since changed the date to 1980, when conservative icon Ronald Reagan was elected president.

Candidates from a party looking to increase its share of minority voters and who are vying to take on Obama, the United States' first African-American president, should tread more carefully on racial issues, analysts and others say.

U.S. Representative Jim Clyburn, a South Carolina Democrat and the highest-ranking African American in Congress, says some candidates have been using coded phrases to play up racial tension.

"What we hear more and more today is people picking up what I call 21st-century words and phrases to transmit the same thoughts that went into the political procedure years ago," Clyburn told Reuters.

"That's the stuff of which dangerous activity is built."

'THIS ISN'T THE '60s ANYMORE'

Bashing the federal government is good politics in South Carolina, but any attempt to play on racial tension is likely to backfire, said Clemson University professor J. David Woodard.

"This isn't the '60s anymore; things have changed dramatically," said Woodard, who also is a Republican consultant. "That would blow up in your face right away if you did that."

With reporters from around the world crisscrossing South Carolina this week, injecting race into political discussions risks dredging up stereotypes of an Old South that faded away before most of residents here were born, Woodard and others here say.

Increasing urbanization and the arrival of international businesses such as BMW and Michelin have ushered in a new era of tolerance, many residents say.

Republicans proudly point to their Indian-American governor, Nikki Haley, and an African-American congressman, Tim Scott, as evidence that prejudice is largely a thing of the past.

Even so, South Carolina's electorate remains sharply split along racial lines. In the 2008 presidential election, 73 percent of whites here voted for Republican John McCain, while 96 percent of blacks voted for Obama.

And the old attitudes haven't disappeared entirely.

"I hate to say it, but ever since the schools integrated (in the 1960s), it went downhill," unemployed paralegal Vicki Cotterman said at a campaign stop for Perry in Walterboro on Thursday. "The white boys try to be like some of the black thugs - they go around with their pants down to their knees. It's disrespectful."

Insurance agent Patti McBride said she believed Obama, a practicing Christian, actually is a Muslim because he has an unusual first name.

"Our country was founded on Christianity, and now we have a Muslim with a Muslim name as the president, for God's sakes," McBride said.

IN CONSTANT CONFLICT

South Carolina has been in almost constant conflict with Washington since Obama took office.

The state has joined several others in a legal challenge to Obama's healthcare law. South Carolina officials have rejected $144 million in federal money for public schools on the grounds that it represents an intrusion into state affairs.

State officials also vigorously fought the National Labor Relations Board, which challenged Boeing Co.'s decision to shift 1,000 jobs into South Carolina from Washington state, where laws are more friendly to labor unions.

"I had no idea that the hardest part about being the governor of South Carolina would be the federal government," Haley said Wednesday at a rally for Mitt Romney, the front-runner in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

Before it stepped into the voter ID case, the U.S. Justice Department sued to block a new South Carolina law that would require law officers to check suspects' immigration status.

The voter ID conflict stems from a new state law that would require voters to show photo identification at the polls. Federal officials and South Carolina Democrats who oppose the law say it could disenfranchise up to one-third of black and other minority voters.

On Monday, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is expected to address the conflict at a rally in Columbia marking Martin Luther King Day, the national holiday recognizing the civil rights leader who was assassinated in 1968.

Holder, like Obama, is black. The visit is widely viewed as a way for Obama's administration to steal some of the spotlight from the Republican primary and remind voters of the policy differences between Democrats and Republicans.

South Carolina is one of six Republican-led states that tightened their laws last year to require a photo ID, a measure conservatives say will deter fraud.

Two other Republican-led states have similar laws in place, while 23 other states require voters to produce some form of identification.

South Carolina, like other largely southern states with a history of racial discrimination, must get pre-approval from the U.S. government before implementing new voting laws.

About 200,000 registered voters in South Carolina do not have a driver's license or other state-issued ID, according to the state election commission.

Various nationwide studies have indicated that African Americans, Latinos, the elderly, people with disabilities and students are less likely to have a photo ID than other voting groups, in part because of the expense involved in obtaining one.

The Justice Department blocked the law on December 23 on the grounds that it would disproportionately affect minority voters. Republican presidential candidates call it another example of Obama's overly intrusive government.

"If the only people who vote in elections are law-abiding, hardworking citizens who are deeply committed to America, the left wing of the Democratic Party will cease to exist," Gingrich said on Friday at a campaign stop in Duncan, South Carolina.

Clyburn, a veteran of the desegregation battles of the 1960s, sees it as an attempt to return to an earlier era when blacks were kept from the polls.

"All of that's designed to tamp down voter involvement," Clyburn said. "They can cloak it any way they want to cloak it."

(Editing by David Lindsey and Eric Beech)

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10:43 AM on 01/21/2012
C'mon people! You have to have an ID to qualify for entitlement benefits (love the term!) or Social Security. Amazingly enough, people manage to get those ID's for that....so just remember to bring them to the voting booth. In today's suspicious society where anyone could be a terrorist and you need your passport to go to Canada, what is so incredulous about asking for a photo ID to place a vote for the most important office in America?......if you are eligible to vote, you should be proud to show your ID, whatever you race, nationality, or religious beliefs. A Hardworking American....don't disrespect me -- I'm probably providing for about 30 families who don't work, but could! I had to let my health insurance lapse...I couldn't afford it, but the same people arguing that they don't want to get an ID have some of the best health care in the world! Sad....Maybe I should quit my job and lose my driver's license ....OH! But then I couldn't get those great benefits and health care without an ID!
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RobietheCat
Altruism with someone else's money isn't
02:15 AM on 01/18/2012
Photo ID in SC?

Heck, we can't even get our illegal aliens to get a driver's license.

Tonight the Police Commission in LA got an ear full. I wish I could send the audio.
Very powerful truth spoken to power.

"When Los Angeles police commissioners in Northridge asked for public opinion, they got an angry earful Tuesday about a pending plan to go easy on unlicensed drivers, mostly illegal immigrants.

Residents, concerned about plans to halt a policy of 30-day car holds for first offenders, jammed St. Nicholas Church in Northridge to express their outrage. Some 300 people filled the church's auditorium seats, with another 100 forced to stand in the back and dozens more prevented from squeezing in the building.

"Cars driven by an unlicensed driver should be impounded for 30 days," said Sharon Brewer of Reseda. "If you can't pay the fine, avoid the crime. Walk, ride or take the bus."

The police proposal to ease car impounds for unlicensed motorists has sparked intense debate about public safety, state law and the punishment of unlicensed drivers.

Police Chief Charlie Beck said he will soon stop the 30-day seizures, which he deems a hardship on illegal immigrants who face $1,500 towing bills and who need their cars to support their families.

Instead of being towed, cars of any first offenders could be retrieved by the registered owner or a licensed driver, given a "reasonable" amount of time."

link: http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_19762950
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
06:54 PM on 01/17/2012
PLEASE let them secede this time and increase the average IQ of the country!
01:38 PM on 01/17/2012
Something is not right with these politicians who scream state rights. Then sue the state of Virginia because the state law requiring them to supply 10,000 verified signatures was not met by them. I guess, they are for states rights only when it directly benefits them.
anon004
With this moniker, you were expecting a picture?
11:34 AM on 01/17/2012
Hey, I thought the GOP was all about getting rid of wasteful government spending. There is no evidence of voter fraud. So why are they spending all these resource on a problem that doesn't exist? This is, in effect, a poll tax, but that's unconstitutional, so they have to pretend it's about voter fraud. I guess if you can't win honestly, you have to play deceptive games like this. The party of Nixon strikes again!
09:45 AM on 01/17/2012
I live in a retirement community here in SC. People are strongly in favor of the new law, because they truly believe that illegal immigrants are voting and that fraud is rampant. They also don't understand the difficulty- when they moved here they just got a drivers license by showing their passport. "Why doesn't everyone do that?" Or, "you have to show a drivers license to get on a plane" Uh, not everyone flies.
07:49 AM on 01/17/2012
From Wall Street Journal - "Holder's Racial Politics - The AG's attack on voter ID laws may backfire legally and politically".

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203391104577125532355717866.html
11:51 AM on 01/17/2012
F&F!
07:28 AM on 01/17/2012
Clyburn, a veteran of the desegregation battles of the 1960s, sees it as an attempt to return to an earlier era when blacks were kept from the polls.
"All of that's designed to tamp down voter involvement," Clyburn said. "They can cloak it any way they want to cloak it."
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CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER, Clyburn should be outraged over Acts of Voter Intimidation on day of 2008 presidential election - when Obama' paid poll watchers = three members of New Black Panther Party caught on videotape - screaming racial epitaphs, while blocking up doors to election polls - obstructing white people from casting votes = Civil Rights violations.

Let's only be concerned about Civil Rights in 1960's for black culture - since they have a monopoly on what is considered CR Violations - even when racial make-up is reversed - during an election in 2008 - causing filing of Civil Rights complaint.

But yet, when Eric Holder as US AG - under the radar - illegally dismisses the Civil Rights complaint at the sentencing phase, there is no outrage from Civil Rights Leaders.

Nor did any of these "civil rights leaders" have a problem w Holder refusing to co-operate for an investigation by The United States Civil Rights Commission, instructing DOJ attorneys to ignore subpoenas, refusing to "allow" DOJ attorneys to testify, causing DOJ attorneys to resign - and give testimony before US Civil Rights Commission - of having more than enough evidence to proceed w the Civil Rights complaint;
08:09 AM on 01/17/2012
also DOJ attorneys who resigned - gave testimony before The United States Civil Rights Commission that the corruption of the Department of Justice was racially-motivated.
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freedom1947
sarcasm, cynicism
12:56 PM on 01/17/2012
Oh them poor white folk. Goes around?
01:28 PM on 01/17/2012
NONE of us should be subjected to any of it - no matter what race.
07:09 AM on 01/17/2012
I have to show a voter ID card or my license before I can vote, so?
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03:33 PM on 01/18/2012
Lucky for you there is no IQ test.
06:42 PM on 01/18/2012
Atleast I would pass it anyway. All I was saying was I have to show ID and didn't feel anything bad about having to do it. Why so freakin' nasty?
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Zacky Ahmed
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03:16 AM on 01/17/2012
The rallying cry of states' rights was used to defend slavery before the Civil War and racial segregation during the post-World War Two battles over civil rights.

Recently, South Carolina Republicans have argued that the federal government is interfering in their plans for education, healthcare, labor law, immigration policy and voting.
oh and add slavery in there too how dare they got rid of that, they interfered with states rights

They are still crying....

Dont need to say anything that quote sums up pretty much everything i have to say about this issue.
07:58 AM on 01/17/2012
yep, racial politics - as the signature of the democratic party.

Check out the article from The Wall Street Journal - about Eric Holder's Racial Politics - and how his attack on Voter ID laws may backfire legally and politically.
09:13 AM on 01/17/2012
Is obama sayinf that Blacks are not smart enough to get a state issued I.D. or dont have the ten or twelve bucks to afford one.either way that is as racist a comment as I have ever heard.
10:53 PM on 01/16/2012
Love this country...the Feds run it...the states righters whine about it.
08:11 AM on 01/17/2012
Obama and Holder refuse to accept or honor the Constitutional Authority of the GOVERNORS of the United States of America.
08:13 AM on 01/17/2012
......as if States' Rights are a figment of everyone's imagination - although guaranteed by the State and US Constitutions.
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freedom1947
sarcasm, cynicism
12:59 PM on 01/17/2012
Thats right. The states have the right to stomp down on those not like them. The good old boy American way.
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RobietheCat
Altruism with someone else's money isn't
04:22 AM on 01/18/2012
For some it is, but if the 10th Amendment is a figment of everyone's imagination, what does that do for all the rest of the Amendments?

Like these:

Amendment 8
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel
and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment 9
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed
to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment 10
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to
the people.
JDLA
Your bills are not the government's responsibility
10:32 PM on 01/16/2012
If identification is not called for, what is to stop me from showing up at the polling station before you, giving them your name and address, showing some utility bill that I borrowed from your mailbox and voting in your place? Chances are I will vote differently than you.
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Davwbaird
43 years standing for equal rights
11:54 PM on 01/16/2012
why ARE YOU Looking FOR excuses to deny some their right to vote?
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Curt H
The only rights u have r the ones u stand up 4
09:01 AM on 01/17/2012
If this has happened, there would be evidence of it. This "what if" theroy, does not hold water.... Please cite prosecutable cases of where this voter fraud has taken place...
JDLA
Your bills are not the government's responsibility
09:39 AM on 01/17/2012
Ever hear of acorn? There are too many convictions and indictments for voter fraud to list. Just google "voter fraud" and prepare to read for a while.
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Stealthboxer
Cleaning up 8 years of Bush one day at a time
10:25 PM on 01/16/2012
 Typically, who are the voters that are proud card carrying members of the NRA?
Of course they are Predominately Republican voters are of course. I have not seen one voter ID law that is inclusive of card carrying members of the NAACP, Union Card, or any organization that has a large Democratic registration. All of the 34 states that have put forth proposed voter ID legislation, were states that went overwhelmingly Republican during the last election cycle in 2010. These states voters ushered GOP majorities and none of these GOP candidates spoke of voter fraud during their respective campaigns. Then a year prior to the Presidential election, Voter ID laws are "suddenly" needed to stop the "voter fraud" in elections. But not one of these states had a problem with voter ID laws previously. It BECAME an issue in the lead up to the Presidential election. Then came the proposed legislation that attacks low income, minority, and elderly voters came into play. This was not a coincidence.
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04:12 AM on 01/17/2012
You betcha! There's still a lot of resentment and sheer anger and hatred that a Black man got elected. Call it whatever you want, but it's bigotry. It's akin to the gerrymandering that got done during the redistricting in several states. Old white men hold the power and money in this country and don't want it to change in any way. Am I bitter about this? Me and several million other people...just call me a old poor white angry woman.
08:04 AM on 01/17/2012
@ Stealthboxer:

We had evidence of Vote Fraud - prior to - and when the ACORN offices were raided for Fraud, Vote Fraud and Vote Registration Fraud - during the 2008 presidential campaign.

When Eric Holder as US AG refused to investigate ACORN or to appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate ACORN,
US citizens/the people as VOTERS of certain States - demanded legislation to be passed for Voter ID laws.

There are your coincidences - and the timeframe.
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10:13 PM on 01/16/2012
from Captain Rick: "Many elderly can't or don't drive and the nearest DMV office may be 50 to 75 miles away. While the law allows for free ID's to those who can't the fee, it does not provide a waiver for the fees to get a copy of a birth certificat­e required for the ID......"

Rick, my father was born at home in rural Iowa, had NO birth certificate. Nothing in writing that could attest to his birth except presence here on this earth.
He owned his own business, paid taxes, voted, drove, had various forms of I.D.s, including those with photos.
The only problem we encountered occurred with the SS Dept. when he died.
My Aunt was present when he was born. As an eyewitness, she vouched for his birth to the SS office.
Had she not been able to do that, there were other alternatives, we were told.
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Davwbaird
43 years standing for equal rights
11:57 PM on 01/16/2012
So?
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12:42 AM on 01/17/2012
In response to the "tempest in a teapot" around this whole discussion: attaining legitimate I.D. for voting purposes as major obstruction.
If one wants to vote, one votes. As with all things, it takes motivation and sincere desire.
Health care providers assist quadriplegics with voting for heaven's sake!
08:07 AM on 01/17/2012
Birth certificates to acquire an ID to vote - are available for Free - in some States.

Just start making calls - and see how many people who do not have an ID - can be helped wih Free Services.
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09:19 AM on 01/17/2012
It is so. Thanks for the reply.

Regards, Francesca
09:55 PM on 01/16/2012
The reference to the Civil War is poignant...

In 1787, when the US Constitution was ratified, there was no Voter ID requirement.

After the American Civil War (1861–1865), there was no Voter ID requirement.

Today's Republican Party is so shortsighted that they fail to realize that...

...their Voter ID position and other more extreme positions are so alienating significant portions of the electorate...

...that they are stifling future conversions from other national parties to their party and the growth of the party long-term...
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RobietheCat
Altruism with someone else's money isn't
02:59 PM on 01/18/2012
According to the US Constitution:

Section 4

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and
Representa­tives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislatur­e thereof;
but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulation­s, except
as to the Place of Choosing Senators.

- Since Citizens United foreign entities can use their money to influence our elections.
Apparently, it matters little if people are legally entitled to vote or not.