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Social Conservatives Squabble Over Winner Of Texas Meeting Vote

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First Posted: 01/16/12 08:40 PM ET Updated: 01/16/12 10:52 PM ET

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. -- Discord among social conservative leaders about which Republican presidential candidate to back reached a new low Monday, as opposing factions bickered over whether Rick Santorum won the support of a meeting in Texas over the weekend or not.

The infighting prompted Don Wildmon, founder of the American Family Association, to muse openly that the GOP's right wing may be about to fumble any chance at having a candidate of their choice.

"In the past, Christian conservatives have split their votes among three or four candidates. This has allowed the moderate-liberal wing of the Republican Party to capture the nomination. It appears we might do the same thing again," Wildmon said in a statement released by Newt Gingrich's campaign.

Mitt Romney, thought of by Wildmon and others as the candidate of the party's "moderate-liberal wing," stands to benefit from the dysfunction. If the GOP's right wing cannot unite by Saturday's primary here, Romney is poised to win his third contest in a row, and many would consider his clinching the nomination to be a mere formality at that point.

But as Saturday's primary grew a day nearer, Gingrich's campaign devoted energy on Monday to fighting the impression that Santorum was the winner this past weekend. The Gingrich campaign sent out two releases Monday protesting the way that a weekend confab of social conservative leaders was portrayed as a victory for the former Pennsylvania senator.

Meanwhile, others close to the talks whispered anonymously that the process of voting for a favored candidate at the Texas meeting was unfair or even compromised.

Gary Bauer, president of American Values and a veteran culture warrior, was one of Santorum's chief representatives at the meeting, and disputed the complaints.

"It may be a little bit of sour grapes from folks with another agenda or something," Bauer told The Huffington Post in a phone interview.

"If you have 150 people in a room, you are always going to have a couple unhappy folks, but I want to be really clear about this: nobody was ever cut off from anything. We had ample time to talk, and there were no objections to the process or to taking a couple of ballots to see if there was any movement," Bauer said. "So it is a little surprising to see people complaining about that now."

Richard Land, a national Southern Baptist leader who is not endorsing a candidate but has spoken favorably of Santorum, agreed with Bauer.

"It would be contrary to the spirit of the meeting and inaccurate to say that it wasn't a fair process," Land told HuffPost. "There was somebody from each of the campaigns that was part of the counting process. It would be unfair to say that it was in any way underhanded or an unfair process."

Land said that the first of three ballots was split largely between Santorum and Gingrich, the former House Speaker from Georgia, with Texas Gov. Rick Perry getting 13 votes and Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex) getting one vote. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee got one write-in vote as well, Land said.

On the second ballot, Santorum got 10 of Perry's supporters and Gingrich received three.

After the second ballot, Land said, "a decision was made to ask people to pray about it and take a recess and see -- if they were Gingrich supporters -- if they could be willing to support Santorum. And when we came back and had a third ballot, Santorum got 79 percent of the votes."

Addressing complaints that the voting, or some of the balloting, took place after some Gingrich supporters had left, Land said, "If they left early, I'm sorry, but it's not like we waited until they left to vote."

The Gingrich campaign's second release on the topic Monday was a statement by five conservative supporters who attended the meeting and who said that "there was no consensus regarding a candidate."

The statement was signed by former Rep. J.C. Watts (R-Okla.), pollster George Barna, Rev. Jim Garlow of Skyline Wesleyan Church in San Diego, Rev. Richard Lee of First Redeemer Church in Atlanta, and David Lane, a political operative who moves in social conservative circles.

"It is unfortunate that early press reports incorrectly stated that there was a consensus for Santorum, or that the '150 leaders endorsed Santorum,'" the statement said. "Such was not the case. Many there were and still are for Newt Gingrich."

Land shot back, "I would argue that 79 percent of the vote was a strong consensus."

Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, was criticized by some for speaking to the press while the Saturday meeting was still going on and telling reporters that the vote had been in Santorum's favor. Perkins did not return a call for comment from The Huffington Post.

But the infighting reflected the current impasse afflicting the social and religious conservative wing of the Republican party, which has former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney poised for a win in South Carolina in Saturday's primary. The latest poll of the state's Republican voters by InsiderAdvantage on Monday showed Romney at 32 percent, up 9 points from the last poll taken by the same firm just five days earlier. Gingrich was at 21 percent, Paul at 14 percent, Santorum at 13 percent and Perry at 5 percent.

Even if social conservatives do unite behind Santorum or Gingrich, Land noted that the end result might only be to ultimately give Romney stronger support from that portion of the GOP.

"Social conservatives will feel better about supporting Romney if they feel like we did our best to not divide our forces but to unite behind a social conservative, and that social conservative lost fair and square," Land said. "It will be easier for them to get behind Romney than if they feel like, 'What could have happened if we had been united?'"

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MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. -- Discord among social conservative leaders about which Republican presidential candidate to back reached a new low Monday, as opposing factions bickered over whether Rick Santorum...
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Cacey 06:30 AM on 01/17/2012
Do any of the organizations which met in Texas to pick a candidate have tax exempt status? If so that status should be removed imediately. In many if not most nations who have borrowed from our Constitution and established a separation of church and state, participants in this event would have been heavily fined and possibly jailed for interfering in the political process. Yet Tim Scott, a Republican Bagger  Read More...
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goodog
Honk if you believe in a public editor.
09:01 PM on 01/17/2012
"nobody was ever cut off from anything. We had ample time to talk, and there were no objections to the process or to taking a couple of ballots to see if there was any movement," Bauer said."
In other words, the organizers held votes until they got the winner they wanted.
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
03:42 PM on 01/17/2012
Bring on the Inquisition...

That appears to be the rallying cry of these fools.
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
03:40 PM on 01/17/2012
These so-called social conservatives need to get their noses and their legislation (both attempted and enacted) the hell out of my life. Go back to the family and the church. Do your service there.

Get out of politics. You do not belong there.
04:46 PM on 01/17/2012
Amen!
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Sabrae
Talk to the paws.
03:12 PM on 01/17/2012
Jesus taught that we are to feed the hungry, tend the sick, care for the elderly and care for the poor.

Draw your own conclusions about who stands where from this.
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
03:41 PM on 01/17/2012
No kidding. That is liberal (and, thus, socialist or communist) thinking in today's GOP/TP.

So, Jesus was a liberal. Most of us know this, but for some reason the GOP/TP choose to ignore that.
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Sabrae
Talk to the paws.
03:57 PM on 01/17/2012
They also won't mention the fact that most Christians are Democrats.
zatonoichi
the blind swordsman
02:51 PM on 01/17/2012
You know, when people like this call themselves "Christians", it becomes pretty obvious that Jesus himself was no Christian.
How is it that these hypocritical mo rons don't get that Jesus was about as liberal as they come. The complete antithesis to these old testament fundies.
zatonoichi
the blind swordsman
02:47 PM on 01/17/2012
How funny that these flat-earth, old testament fundies are fighting over the laurel wreath, with the eventual winner being the most ignorant, uneducated, bigoted partisan hater of the lot. Interesting how highly these people value the very worst aspects of human nature, and hold them up as virtues.
nwlover
My Lab is smarter than your honor student
02:25 PM on 01/17/2012
' I like your christ. Your christians--not so much.' Ghandi ( paraphrased)
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1dljones
Just because they have the power does not make the
02:32 PM on 01/17/2012
Yes. Why as individuals we are an intelligent people, but put us in a group and we start getting stupid.
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1dljones
Just because they have the power does not make the
02:20 PM on 01/17/2012
If those in the repbulican party that want to push for an ultra conservatives candidate and they were to get him elected. How soon after that would they start the inquisition to save the souls of all those demon riden Democrates.
02:08 PM on 01/17/2012
The good news is that surveys show more and more Americans turning away from organized religion. Gee, I wonder why.
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Scott Leland
10:18 AM on 01/18/2012
That is my theory of why Senator Ron Santorum did not get more votes in Iowa (a state with a lot of Catholics) that once lapsed Catholics escaped from the Church's rule over their lives they would not want to return to that.
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wayoutleft
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01:54 PM on 01/17/2012
Christians in politics are like scorpions in a petting zoo- except I'm not sure scorpions can't count.
By the time ppl are living for 900 years (no offense, Mom), everythings fourscore and 7 or however many cubits, and the world was begun 7 days ago by Paula Deen- you encounter real math comprehension problems, to say nothing of odd proximities between barbeque cooking and dinosaurs. I guess Jesus couldn't make the reservation deposit.
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OutAtFirst
Believe it! You don't know how to text and drive
12:23 PM on 01/17/2012
Perry couldn't even win his home state.
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
12:21 PM on 01/17/2012
Social Conservatives have a lot in common. Including a lust for power.

Have you noticed that for people who favor small government, each of these candidates sure wants to be the One to Destroy the present government? They are all eager to be the President who destroys Social Security, ends payments to the poor, increases payments to the rich, starts another war, and takes away civil liberties from "undesirables."

And to do this "Noble Task," they will lie, cheat,steal, commit election fraud, and stuff ballot boxes. No deed is unworthy if it contributes to the Great Cause (getting rid of a Black President and imposing a Christian dictatorship).

And most importantly, it means getting rid of their competitors. Newt share power with Romney? Neither one is interested in the VP slot. If Newt accepted the VP slot under Romney, Romney would need an official "taster" to make sure his food wasn't poisoned.

This is cutthroat business as each of these Pirates wishes to board and commandeer the Ship of State. Ahrrr!
12:21 PM on 01/17/2012
WWJD? Certainly not this. He would be out helping the poor and homeless.By their fruits you shall know them.
12:18 PM on 01/17/2012
right wing "chrisitans" picking a candidate!! amazing..MORONS mysoginists, sex crazed candidates and worse are ALL in the mix simply because they are christaisn...ANYONE else think this is ASS...backwards???
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Americanwoman55
imagination is more important than knowledge -Ein
12:52 PM on 01/17/2012
This is Looney Land. The one that wanted to pick a non-Romney candidate a few weeks ago?

Backing romney??????

A mormon better thana black man I guess!!!!

OBAMA 2012
01:06 PM on 01/17/2012
these people are NOT christian conservatives they are simply RACIST BIGOTS.....
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Vintage59
Reading is still the warp drive of IT
12:13 PM on 01/17/2012
One of the Checks and Balances inherent in our political system is that selfish me-firsters can never assemble themselves into a majority on a national scale. The rewards are too great. Their greed matches them and they just can't help themselves. They could have three quarters of the voters on their side and they would still find a way to lose.

Since they only have one quarter of the voters but they are convinced that they have three quarters of them they marginalize themselves at the same time they get the MSM to pay attention to them by providing good copy. Insults and outrageous declarations are good for a headline on any slow news day.
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wayoutleft
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01:56 PM on 01/17/2012
No. MSM doesn't have the guts to call Gingrich what he is, much less laugh in his face at his pretensions.
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Vintage59
Reading is still the warp drive of IT
02:23 PM on 01/17/2012
How could they continue to make money off him if they did that? Honesty doesn't pay in the media game.