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Europeans "De-Baptize" In Growing Numbers, Church Officials Worried

Europeans De Baptize

First Posted: 01/18/2012 4:30 pm Updated: 01/18/2012 4:30 pm

By Elizabeth Bryant
Religion News Service

PARIS (RNS) A decade ago, Rene Lebouvier requested that his local Catholic church erase his name from the baptismal register. The church noted his demands on the margins of its records and the chapter was closed.

But the clergy abuse scandals rocking Europe, coupled with Pope Benedict XVI's conservative stances on contraception, hardened Lebouvier's views. Last October, a court in Normandy ruled in favor of his lawsuit to have his name permanently deleted from church records -- making the 71-year-old retiree the first Frenchman to be officially "de-baptized."

"I took the judicial route to get myself de-baptized because of the church's excesses," said Lebouvier, speaking by telephone from his village of Fleury, near the D-Day beaches.

"It's a sort of honesty toward the church because they have a guy on their register who doesn't believe in God."

Lebouvier's case is among a growing wave of de-baptisms in Europe, one of the most visible manifestations of the continent's secular drift. Websites offering informal de-baptism certificates have mushroomed. Other Christians are formally breaking from the church by opting out of state church taxes.

"The movement is happening across Europe," said Anne Morelli, who heads a center studying religion and secularity at the Free University of Brussels. "It was very apparent during 2011 -- in the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and Austria. It is obviously related to the scandals of pedophile priests, but it has been going on for some time."

While there are no official statistics, experts and secular activists count the numbers of de-baptisms in the tens of thousands. It's a phenomenon that has touched Protestant as well as Catholic communities.

In France, the de-baptism drive affects a relatively tiny proportion of Christians, experts say. Still, Lebouvier's case may create a precedent.

The local bishop of Coutances, Stanislas Lalanne, has appealed the court ruling, a process that could take years.

"Baptism is a spiritual gift, it's bigger than we are," said Bernard Podvin, spokesman for the French Bishops Confederation, who would not comment on the specifics of the Normandy case. "It can't be confined to a purely administrative framework."

But if Lebouvier wins, de-baptism could become standard practice here, and trigger copycat lawsuits across Europe.

"The church is afraid the movement might amplify," said Marc Blondel, president of the Paris-based National Federation of Freethinkers, who says he will launch another de-baptism drive if Lebouvier prevails.

Lebouvier's split from the church took decades. Born in a deeply conservative and religious community, he went to Catholic school. But instead of becoming the priest his mother had wished, he became a baker, moving to Paris and joining a leftist trade union.

"I changed 180 degrees," he said. "It took time, but it happened."

Change is afoot elsewhere. In neighboring Belgium, which has been hit hard by the church sex scandals, de-baptism requests in the French-speaking region alone soared to roughly 2,000 in 2010, compared to 66 two years earlier, according to the Brussels Federation of Friends of Secular Morality. The numbers of people reportedly leaving the Dutch church reportedly shot up 25 percent.

In Britain, a de-baptism certificate offered as a joke by the National Secular Society has since turned serious after tens of thousands of people downloaded it.

"Some people actually do feel actively hostile toward churches," said society president Terry Sanderson. "And they want to express that by saying, 'I'm not one of your members.'"

In Germany, a record 181,000 Catholics formally split from the Catholic Church in 2011 -- the first time that Catholic defections outpaced Protestants leaving. Rather than requesting de-baptisms, Germans fill out government paperwork saying they no longer want to pay church taxes.

"I don't think they want to get rid of their belief, their connection to Jesus and the baptism, but they don't want to be connected with the church hierarchy," said Christian Weisner, German spokesman for the international lay reform movement We are Church.

At stake for many cash-strapped European churches is not just faith, but euros.

"It's not by chance that in Germany, Austria and Belgium that the movement is strongest," says Belgian researcher Morelli, noting countries that levy church taxes, which France does not. "It's also a struggle about subsidies the population must pay for a church that doesn't represent them."

The bigger worry, experts say, are plummeting rates of new baptisms. Half a century ago, for example, 90 percent of French children were baptized, said Sorbonne University religion professor Philippe Portier. Today, roughly one in three are.

"The church considers de-baptisms a very marginal phenomena and its strategy right now is to resist it," Portier said. "It is much more active when it comes to reversing the drop in (new) baptisms -- there it's put in place a new evangelizing strategy."

The parish at Paris' historic Saint-Germain-des-Pres, for example, is offering a myriad of activities, from ski retreats to support networks for young professionals. At a recent evening youth Mass, the church was overflowing.

The parish priest, the Rev. Benoist de Sinety, is counting on faith, not numbers.

"What is striking today is that those who want to be Christian really want to be Christian," he said. "I rejoice in the fact that people are free to choose."

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kd1s
I.T. Geek!
11:05 AM on 12/28/2012
For the mathematically challenged 90% in France back in the day versus 33% now are baptized. That has to scare the crap out of the churches in general. Good, their day is over. For a very long time they held sway because they were the keepers of the knowledge.

I've researched the Canon process to disaffiliate from the Catholic church. It's rather elaborate but all I want is my name stricken from their books. Therefore I will attend a service, snatch the host by sleight of hand, and defile it in some way on video and send that video to the Bishop. That's an automatic excommunication. But then excommunication doesn't hold the threat it once did - because the number of practicing Catholics is declining.
06:24 PM on 01/29/2012
When I moved to Switzerland to advance my culinary career, I was asked by the HR dept' "what religion are you"? I answered, "Catholic".
I was then taxed for the church (they still passed the hat). When I moved to Austria, (My great grend-parents were arried in The Stephansdom" I answered, "Buddist". I was not taxed. Could this be why Rene want's to be un-baptised? Diminishing returns as they say. Practical indeed. And, he has good reason for not paying hyopocrites. Politics-money-values.
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Robert Frano
‘Plausible Deniability’: NOT A FAMILY_VALUE!!
04:25 PM on 01/26/2012
Re: "Change is afoot elsewhere. In neighboring Belgium, which has been hit hard by the church sex scandals, de-baptism requests in the French-speaking region alone soared to roughly 2,000 in 2010, compared to 66 two years earlier, according to the Brussels Federation of Friends of Secular Morality. The numbers of people reportedly leaving the Dutch church reportedly shot up 25 percent..."

This papal-impersonator seems to think he can go to the 3rd. world, and make up for millions of lost europeans & americans!
...sort of like an Italian ocean liner skipper THOUGHT he had enougfh water under the keel!
...OOOooPpppSss!

www.bishopaccountability.org, (under ‘current events’), has a much more comprehensive URL’ed data base on these news items/stat’s, which are reminiscent of the ‘Saturn 5’ ridden by N. Armstrong & Buzz Aldrin, circa 1969; As a former catholic, I take no joy in observing that fact!

…Funny, (as in ‘ironic') thing is, this pope / his ‘opposite numbers' across monotheisim, have it in their power to reverse these trends so fast, their cardiovascular systems probably can't handle it! They merely need to 'advance, socially', to, say, the 1970's! I’m reminded of the ‘prince & the pauper, (the 1930’s movie), where a little prince, interacting with his pauperized twin, has a ‘consciousness-raising’ experience!
Can you imagine a circumstance wherein one visualizes the pope, and DOESN’T feel like one is witnessing Richard M. Nixon, impeached, exonerated & then returned to office?
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charlesrfd2003
Proud American who believes in the Bill of Rights
12:25 AM on 01/25/2012
We had a de-baptism of a large Catholic hospital system today.

Here in California Catholic Healthcare West has just changed to Dignity Health and no longer has ties to the Catholic Church. Dignity will not do abortions nor vitro fertilization services. It is no longer an official ministry of the Catholic Church. Dignity Health has 36 hospitals located in California, Nevada and Arizona. I would assume now that the employees will have the same health coverage that is given to employees in other hospitals. Catholic bishops are objecting to providing contraception services to Church employees as required in the new healthcare law.
09:29 PM on 01/23/2012
If God is love, then who will tell the religous principalities and powers to forfit empire in favor of care and compassion?
09:25 PM on 01/23/2012
I have decided to follow Jesus.....reviled ,hated ,and tortured by the religous and empire. Love wins!
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
07:22 PM on 01/23/2012
not much emphasized in the story is the effect of "debaptism" on the numbers of citizens the churches can claim for the purposes of direct government subsidies as occur in much if not all of Europe.

cherchez la monnaie
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Bmori
Former citizen of BS mountain
11:27 AM on 01/23/2012
I wouldn't do this, I simply don't even think it's worth the time. I wasted enough time in that institution that the effort would be better spent elsewhere.
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Louise Aloft
no man is an island
04:42 AM on 01/24/2012
that's a very ambivalent sentiment about the church. you still want to be counted amongst it's followers. makes one wonder how many others among its billion feel the same.
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Bmori
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03:57 PM on 01/24/2012
I am pretty sure they got the memo when I declined confirmation. For me it would be a pain, I would have travel, deal with Mexican clergy, etc.
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Kebert Xela
Who Would Jesus Hate?
11:16 AM on 01/23/2012
As someone who was baptized Catholic and then left the church at age 16, I would never consider getting unbaptized. Not for fear of hell but because entire Christian religion is a fear based fantasy. After freeing my mind from the fear and ignorance of it all, I just plain don't care about anything related to that era of my life! I do not hate Christians, I have a deep respect for those who truly live according to Christ's teachings. The world would be a better place if we had more Christians but less institutionalized Christianity. Jesus didn't preach hatred, if your church does it's time to find a new church or belief system!
01:35 AM on 01/25/2012
Absolutely correct. I knew 3 women who practiced Christianity well. THEY were not the norm in my community/experience.

Just move on. Permanent records are made by humans as a habit. It does not matter.

I am a human/atheist/human. It does not matter a Baptist church has my name on a record. I am still just me in CA practicing life with an secular edge. But, still, remember, eat, drink, and be merry!
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David Silvey
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11:13 AM on 01/23/2012
I am not European. I am an American with a family tree in the United States since its inception and years bfore. I am sure that there is a Baptismal record somewhere with my name on it. I don't care! It is totally irrevelant to me. I am not a member of their club and have no desire to be. Every day more and more people come to feel the same way I do. "Knowledge eventually overcomes ignorance."
09:47 AM on 01/23/2012
The great irony that I see: As the atheists and other secularists offer choruses of "hoorahs" over the apparently trending demise of Christianity (thereby, in a way, justifying their unbelief), Christians offer similar choruses of "hoorahs" over it as well - as they interpret it to mean fulfillment of their end-times prophecy (thereby, in a way, justifiying their belief).
01:38 AM on 01/25/2012
Well said. Well, you know, that when Jesus does come down from the sky, all these people will raise out of their graves.

Very interesting! Will people run into each other? Will they look like zombies?

So much superstition and so much human fear. Wow!
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Robert Frano
‘Plausible Deniability’: NOT A FAMILY_VALUE!!
04:39 PM on 01/26/2012
Re Hoorahs & Hoorahs, etc.:

Kenneth Hamm, a PhD staffer at the Creationist-Fantasy-Museum, has noted how it's getting increasingly difficult to lure evangelical children into evangelical adulthood.
As I’ve noted elsewhere...
Ratzinger, busy "clearing his church of its filth", in the most shallow, ‘for public consumption’, ineffective manner he can, (considering his clerics are mostly closeted homosexuals), seems impervious to reality:
fewer believers/novices/graduate-clerics, tithes, and of course ‘mass’ attendance!

He fantasizes he’ll take his road-show to the 3rd. world which, (even w/o American evangelical's whipping up lynch mobs), is pretty culturally-hostile to homosexuals of any variety!

What will Ratzinger do, when life imitates Christian history?
When ‘necklaces’, (fuel-filled tires), replace years of imploring ‘N.A.M.B.L.A, Tiber River’, to remove/laicize horny priests, thus bringing home the ‘spiritual-disaster’ known collectively as ‘intolerant precambrian monotheism’??
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southernman
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09:34 AM on 01/23/2012
sounds like an idea whose time has come.
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02:31 AM on 01/23/2012
HA HA! "I don't think they want to get rid of their belief, their connection to Jesus and the baptism, but they don't want to be connected with the church hierarchy," said Christian Weisner, German spokesman for the international lay reform movement We are Church.' Always dissembling.... Yes, from the Internet discussions I've had with some of the folks that "de-baptized", they're getting rid of all of it. Any sane human being stops needing that "death-cushion" just by looking at what actually goes on in the world. "God" took time out of giving babies in Africa AIDS long enough to give full attention to one woman trapped in her wrecked car... Yeah right. Ridiculous. As more than one person in a chat room has said, "I find it refreshing that the human mind is evolving enough to accept we don't have any special 'destiny' and we are no more important to the universe than a rock that tumbled smooth in a river." The universe will not miss us when we are gone.
01:39 AM on 01/25/2012
Correct. The universe does not care.
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01:50 AM on 01/25/2012
It never did. But I am finding that more people are frightened and in fact stunned and confused by anyone with a "wait and see" attitude about death. They get downright hostile when you tell them that you are ready to go at any point, so if it happens tomorrow, no big deal. Proof positive to me at least, that Americans feel they have some sort of "right" to live longer, and even "disease free" than other humans. I've always found that shocking, egotistical and down right stupid. But now they tend to spew those views openly after having said the same all along and denying their own belief that it's true. Confusing, but funny and ridiculous to me anyway.
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chaapai
just an earthbound misfit, I
02:00 AM on 01/23/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAo_rEgR4xU

An American de-baptizing ceremony.

I think this is brilliant!
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
09:25 PM on 01/22/2012
Let us hope that this kind of thing makes the Vatican face up to the reality that they have become Pharisees and Sadducees so the will clean up their act. I will not be holding my breath.
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mantra
11:29 AM on 01/24/2012
Not only the Vatican. The article points out that the same is going on among Protestants, and judging by what we see in the Republican debates, both in terms of the candidates and the audience who make a point of describing themselves as Christians while spewing hatred, intolerance and lack of compassion, I wouldn't be surprised if many people in the US were quietly distancing themselves from institutionalized religion.