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Tim Lincecum Arbitration Demands: Giants Pitcher Asks For $21.5 Million Salary

Tim Lincecum Salary Arbitratio

By JANIE McCAULEY   01/17/12 10:16 PM ET   AP

SAN FRANCISCO -- Giants ace Tim Lincecum asked for $21.5 million in salary arbitration Tuesday and was offered $17 million by the club.

The two-time NL Cy Young Award winner's request neared the record amount sought in arbitration. Houston pitcher Roger Clemens asked for $22 million in 2005.

San Francisco's offer was the highest in arbitration history, topping the $14.25 million the New York Yankees proposed for shortstop Derek Jeter in 2001.

"I'm overall optimistic that we'll find common ground without a hearing room," Bobby Evans, Giants vice president of baseball operations, said before seeing Lincecum's filing numbers. "It's a process that begins long before today in terms of conversations about possible deals that work for both sides. That process has continued in a mutual fashion. At this point we haven't reached a conclusion."

Also Tuesday, the Giants and slugger Pablo Sandoval agreed on a $17.15 million, three-year contract. The 25-year-old third baseman became an All-Star last season after losing nearly 40 pounds during a rigorous offseason regimen. He batted .315 with 23 home runs and 70 RBIs in 2011.

Lincecum, the winning pitcher in the Game 5 World Series clincher at Texas in 2010, earned $13.1 million last season when he completed a two-year deal worth $23.2 million.

San Francisco's front office would like to lock up the 27-year-old Lincecum and fellow starter Matt Cain with long-term deals. Lincecum seems set on keeping his options open in the near future on a shorter contract.

"We know we'll at least have a one-year deal," Evans said. "I can't really predict where it will end up. In this process your two parties are always filing to try to come to a midpoint. The negotiation is really about the midpoint."

With Lincecum earning a hefty contract, Evans joked, "I usually leave off the final three zeroes because it's easier to calculate."

If the past is any indication, the sides will do their best to reach agreement before spring training and before an arbitration hearing.

In February 2010, Lincecum agreed to a $23 million, two-year contract ahead of the scheduled hearing. He had been set at that time to ask for $13 million.

That last contract was quite a raise for the undersized, hard-throwing pitcher his teammates call "Franchise" and "Freak" after he earned $650,000 in 2009.

"We're looking at different player contracts that give us an idea where we think Tim should be," Evans said. "There is not ever a player that's exactly like the one you have. Ultimately there is only one guy that looks just like him."

Lincecum – the 10th overall draft pick out of Washington in 2006 – has been an All-Star in each of the past four seasons. He went 13-14 with a 2.74 ERA last year for his first losing record. The Giants scored no runs while he was in the game in seven of 33 starts, had one run six times and two runs five times, according to STATS LLC.

Also Tuesday, the Giants reached one-year agreements to avoid arbitration with outfielders Melky Cabrera and Nate Schierholtz and reliever Santiago Casilla.

Cabrera agreed to a $6 million deal.

San Francisco, which sold out every game in 2011 but missed the playoffs, will have a payroll of around $130 million.

"Obviously the revenue that has been generated by our ownership and the support of our fans here makes the payroll level we have possible," Evans said. "We don't take that for granted. We know that with that kind of payroll comes responsibility and expectation."

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03:12 AM on 02/24/2012
Think it might be time to take down this story, HP?
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Jordan Ward
01:42 PM on 01/23/2012
Remember Barry Zito?
05:40 PM on 01/21/2012
There go the ticket, hot dog, and beer prices.
03:52 PM on 01/21/2012
Glad to see Mitch Kramer is doing pretty good.
12:36 PM on 01/21/2012
Are you kidding me? Lincecum IS the franchise for the Giants, sign up to a long-term deal!!!

Most people fail to realize, $21 million is based not only on what Lincecum does on the field (which if the Giants weren't offensively challenged, his numbers would've been at least 5-8 wins higher) but that he brings people to the ballpark. He puts butts in the seats. So, isn't he worth the money if he makes the Giants money?

When Roger Clemens was in Toronto his first season, I went to the ballpark at least 8 times to watch him pitch when I normally wouldn't have gone. Financially, that was at least $300-$400 I spent that year to watch the Blue Jays play. Times that by 1000's of people and you start to understand how much these marquee players bring in.

Besides, he's a West coast guy, he's not going to Boston or New York, he's a California player for life.
07:11 PM on 01/20/2012
Just another greedy sports figure.
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06:40 PM on 01/20/2012
a 2.74 era in the national league is a 4.72 era in the american.
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10:16 AM on 01/20/2012
Let Him WALK!
08:54 AM on 01/19/2012
Welcome Lincecum to the Yankees
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ProfessorBIGWUN
08:41 AM on 01/19/2012
13-14 with a 2.74 ERA?
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11:58 AM on 01/19/2012
The Giants didn't score any runs this year. Timmy could have easily gone for 18-20 wins if he had any run support.
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08:07 AM on 01/19/2012
ZIIIIIITTTTTOOOOOOOO!

Not the same players obviously, but the last time the Giants plopped down some serious coin for a pitcher...well, we know how that turned out.
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BKearney
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09:29 PM on 01/18/2012
PAY HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:50 PM on 01/18/2012
Looks like Lincecum has been smoking too much weed.
09:15 PM on 01/18/2012
Looks like you've been smoking not enough weed....how else would you explain your logic? A two time Cy Young winner, still in his prime, is worth his weight in gold. You're a Yankee fan, right? Were you complaining when they overpaid for A-Rod?
07:31 PM on 01/22/2012
lincecum was busted for posession a while back.
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Mikeeee
conservatism = "low-effort" thinking.
08:45 PM on 01/18/2012
This guy needs a reality check. Or maybe like clemens he's going to need the big paycheck for lawyer fees.
09:12 PM on 01/18/2012
If you're insinuating that Lincecum is on steroids, you need the reality check.
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12:02 AM on 01/19/2012
clemens wasn't on them either. Did you forget that?
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stjoshy
"C is for COOKIEEEEE. thats good enough for me"
07:59 PM on 01/18/2012
hahahaha. Kershaw owned that guy last year. just wanted to rub that in san fran... carry on
09:31 PM on 01/18/2012
Stjoshy, the Dodgers are a mess and destined for another lousy year. Kershaw is good, I'll give him that. But the games he won this past year over Lincecum were mostly one run games against an injury-riddled team that provided almost no offense.

Tim is 4-1 in postseason, Kershaw hasn't even sniffed a pressure playoff game, nor will he for many years.

Your smug opinion is overinflated. Come back when Kershaw leads the Dodgers into the postseason and then we'll talk - until then, he's a good pitcher on a mediocre team.

How does it feel to have an irrelevant baseball team in L.A.? Oh, probably the same as having no football team at all. Hahahahaha yourself.
10:42 PM on 01/18/2012
Even Linsuckem has more class then your answer....Dude hahahaha

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After beating the Giants for his 20th win, Dodgers' lefty Clayton Kershaw should be the NL Cy Young winner, writes Tony Jackson. Story

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Kershaw (20-5) allowed six hits and one run in 7 1/3 innings, walked two and struck out six to become the first Dodgers pitcher to go 5-0 against the Giants since Vic Lombardi in 1946. He did it on what would have been Lombardi's 89th birthday.

"Don't overthink it," Kershaw said of his strategy against the Dodgers' biggest rival. "You have a tendency sometimes when you face a team over and over to try to change things."

Four of those victories came against two-time NL Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, with Kershaw allowing one earned run in those games. That came on an eighth-inning homer by Chris Stewart.

"It's frustrating, obviously," Lincecum said. "But when you go up against a guy like that who's having a year like this, you've got to be on your game. Every run counts, so you can't go out there and give him a two-run lead and kind of put the ball in his court to put his foot down because he tends to do that a lot. And it's not just against us."
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stjoshy
"C is for COOKIEEEEE. thats good enough for me"
02:02 AM on 01/19/2012
qflt is where its at buddy. and btw the 9rs are a flash in the pan. the chargers will be back next year with the high powered offense that brings fear to all. and seriously.. a postseason appearance and your cocky. the 9rs have been trash since rice left. you do know that decades right? hahahaha. and to stay on point... kershaw did not have a "good season" lmao. he dominated everyone. how does it feel to a have a one hit wonder team. ill lmbo when tim goes to new york. and mediocre dodger team my left n ut. we went to the playoffs the year before and thats despite the tool named frank mcourt. get real, ur chances at being number one in the nl west are numbered. kemp ethier loney kershaw... they all agree