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GOP Debate: Republican Candidates Face Off Ahead Of South Carolina Primary

First Posted: 01/19/2012 8:59 pm Updated: 01/19/2012 10:10 pm

By DAVID ESPO, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. - The race for the Republican presidential nomination took a turn toward the South Carolina surreal Thursday as Rick Perry dropped out, Newt Gingrich faced stunning allegations from an ex-wife and Mitt Romney struggled to maintain a shaky front-runner's standing.

An aggressive evening debate capped the bewildering day.

Former Sen. Rick Santorum played aggressor for much of the night, struggling to inject himself into what seemed increasingly like a two-way race with less than 48 hours remaining until the South Carolina polls open on Saturday. He accused Gingrich and Romney of "playing footsies with the left" when it came to health care. Both men rejected the allegations.

The debate began a few hours after first word that Romney had been stripped of his Iowa caucus victory, then had been stung by Perry's withdrawal and endorsement of Gingrich.

Gingrich, in turn, was accused by an ex-wife of seeking an open marriage so he could keep his mistress.

"Newt's not perfect, but who among us is," said Perry, abruptly quitting the race just before the first-in-the-South primary.

His decision to end a once-promising candidacy left Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and Texas Rep. Ron Paul the remaining contenders in the race to pick a Republican to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama this fall.


Nine hours after Perry exited one stage, the four remaining contenders walked onto another for a final pre-primary debate.

Gingrich angrily denounced the news media for putting his ex-wife front and center in the final days of the race, but Santorum, Romney and Paul steered well clear of the controversy. "Let's get onto the real issues, that's all I've got to say," said Romney, although he pointed out that he and his wife, Ann, have been married for 42 years.

All four remaining GOP candidates lustily attacked Obama, while Santorum in particular sought to raise his own profile.

Introduced to the audience, he mentioned his change of fortunes in Iowa, where an eight-vote defeat in kickoff caucuses was now a 34-vote advantage – though the Iowa Republican Party did not declare a winner.

Santorum jabbed at both Gingrich and Romney, but seemed to focus more attention on the former. If Gingrich is the party nominee, he said, "you sort of have that worrisome moment that something's going to pop. And we don't need that in a nominee."

Recent polls, coupled with Perry's endorsement, suggested Gingrich was the candidate with the momentum and Romney the one struggling to validate his standing as front-runner. Whatever else the impact, the day's events reduced the number of contenders vying to emerge as Romney's principal conservative alternative.

The former Massachusetts governor had other challenges in a state where unemployment approaches 10 percent. He adamantly refused to explain why some of his millions were invested in the Cayman Islands, how much was there or whether any other funds were held offshore.

Under pressure from his rivals to release his income tax returns before the weekend – a demand first made by Perry in a debate on Monday – he told reporters it wouldn't happen. "You'll hear more about that. April," he said, a position he renewed during the debate.

Gingrich released his own tax return during the day, reporting that he paid the IRS $613,517 in taxes on more than $3.1 million in income. He also donated about 2 percent of his income to charity.

His effective tax rate, roughly 31.6 percent of his adjusted income, was about double what Romney told reporters earlier this week he had paid.

Gingrich grappled with problems of a different, possibly even more crippling sort in a state where more than half the Republican electorate is evangelical.

In an interview scheduled to air on ABC News, Marianne Gingrich said her ex-husband had wanted an "open marriage" so he could have both a wife and a mistress. She said Gingrich conducted an affair with Callista Bistek – his current wife – "in my bedroom in our apartment in Washington" while she was elsewhere.

"He was asking to have an open marriage and I refused. That is not a marriage," she said in excerpts released by the network in advance of the program.

Asked about it during the debate, Gingrich repeatedly criticized the media, then briefly addressed the accusation. "The story is false," he said, with no elaboration.

He said his two daughters from the first of his three marriages – the ex-wife making the accusations was the second of three – had sent a letter to ABC "complaining about this as tawdry and inappropriate."

In fact, the letter made no such accusations. Instead, Kathy Lubbers and Jackie Cushman wrote ABC that anyone who has endured a failed marriage "understands it is a personal tragedy filled with regrets, and sometimes differing memories of events."

Those weren't the only political events in the run-up to the Saturday primary. Television commercials for the remaining candidates and their allies ran virtually without letup, generally designed to diminish each other's support.

According to information made available to The Associated Press, targeted viewers in most regions of the state were watching an average of about six commercials a day paid for by Romney's campaign and Restore Our Future, a group supporting him. Gingrich, Paul, Santorum and their backers raised the total higher.

Santorum ran commercials likening Romney to Obama; Gingrich's cast the former speaker as the only candidate who could defeat the president this fall. In a sign of the shifting campaign, Restore Our Future stopped attacking Santorum so it could concentrate its fire on Gingrich.

Santorum, whose fortunes have ebbed since what appeared to be a narrow loss in Iowa, pronounced himself the winner there after all when state party officials in Des Moines announced he had finished 34 votes ahead of Romney instead of eight behind.

"There have been two contests. We won one," he said, and he proceeded to ridicule Romney and Gingrich as weak challengers to Obama. "How can you differentiate ourselves on the major issues of the day if we nominate tweedledum and tweedledee instead of someone who stood up and said, `No'?" he said to one audience, referring to his opposition to a requirement to purchase health care coverage.

Iowa Republican chairman Matt Strawn said the party would not name an official winner because the results were so close and some votes couldn't be counted. Results from eight of the state's 1,774 precincts were not certified to the state party by Wednesday's 5 p.m. deadline.

It was Strawn who had stepped before a microphone shortly before 2 a.m. in Des Moines on Jan. 4 to declare Romney the victor.

That announcement propelled the former Massachusetts governor into New Hampshire, where he breezed to victory in the opening primary of the campaign a week later.

He arrived in South Carolina the following day, front-runner then for sure, now more shakily so.

Perry's withdrawal mimicked one earlier in the week by former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman in that they both quit a few hours before a debate.

The similarities ended there, though. Huntsman endorsed Romney.

Perry had other thoughts, calling Gingrich a "conservative visionary who can transform our country."

Echoing words Huntsman said of Romney, Perry said he and Gingrich had their differences.

And in saying the former speaker was not perfect, he sought to provide political cover of a type that might reassure South Carolina voters for whom religious values are important.

"The fact is, there is forgiveness for those who seek God and I believe in the power of redemption, for it is a central tenet of my own Christian faith," Perry said.

His decision to withdraw set off a scramble among the remaining contenders for the allegiance of his supporters and donors, both in the state and nationally.

State Rep. Chip Limehouse of Charleston said he was expecting to speak by phone with both Romney and Gingrich later in the day before making up his mind.

"I'm looking and I really do think tonight's debate will determine the next president of the United States. That's how important it is," Peeler said.

Perry's exit marked the end of a campaign that began with soaring expectations but quickly faded. He shot to the head of the public opinion polls when he announced his candidacy last summer, but a string of poor debate performances soon led to a decline in support.

His defining moment came at one debate when he unaccountably could not recall the third of three federal agencies he has promised to abolish. He joked about it afterward but never recovered from the fumble.

In his farewell appearance as a candidate, he said he was bowing out of the 2012 campaign, seemingly a hint he would run again in four years if Republicans fail to win the White House this time.

An aide, Ray Sullivan was more explicit, telling reporters Perry hasn't ruled out running for governor again or for the White House in 2016 if Obama is re-elected.

Below, HuffPost's live blog coverage of the South Carolina debate.

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WASHINGTON - Marianne Gingrich on Thursday night reiterated her claim that her ex-husband, Newt Gingrich, asked her for an open marriage in 1998. "My story is the truth, and if he were really sorry he could have stood up and said so, but he didn't," she told ABC.

The remarks were part of an interview that aired in full Thursday night, but the open marriage conversation was released early in the day, causing a media frenzy.

Marianne Gingrich said she "knew" that her husband was unfaithful when he refused to answer yes or no when she asked him directly, but she said it was especially hurtful to learn later that Callista Bisek (now Gingrich) stayed in her bedroom in Washington with him, the same place her husband would call her from every night. "He always called me .. and always ended with 'I love you.' Well, she was listening," Marianne told ABC's Brian Ross, her voice dropping to a near whisper.

Hours earlier in South Carolina, the former House speaker ferociously attacked moderator John King of CNN when King asked Gingrich if he cared to respond to Marianne's account.

After a tirade against the "elite news media," Gingrich grew even more animated. "The story is false," he asserted, "every personal friend I have who knew us in that period says the story was false. We offered several of them to ABC to prove it was false. [ABC producers] weren't interested because they would like to attack any Republican."

-- Christina Wilkie

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Summerville Patch staff report from South Carolina:

The night belonged to hard-hitting Newt Gingrich and underdog Rick Santorum during the last debate before the South Carolina primary, according to audience members leaving the event Thursday evening.

While all four candidates faired well ... many debate-goers said Gingrich and Santorum stole the show.

And then there was Ron Paul who surprised a few people like Tricia Boccabello of Charleston.

"I think Ron Paul did better than I expected him to," Boccabello said. "He actually came across as being pretty cogent."

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NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. -- Following Thursday's debate, CNN moderator John King said that you're "damned if you do, damned if you don’t."

King was referring the forceful pushback he received from Newt Gingrich -- and the crowd filling the North Charleston Coliseum -- after kicking off Thursday's Republican debate with a question about claims from Marianne Gingrich, the candidate's second wife, that the former speaker asked her an open marriage in the late 1990s.

Gingrich, who slammed Fox News moderator Juan Williams just three days earlier over his line of questioning on racial issues, took a swing at King right out of the gate.

"I think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office," Gingrich said. "And I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that."

Gingrich rejected King's explanation that another network conducted the Marianne Gingrich interview, which started gaining traction Wednesday night before clips were released Thursday.

"John, it was repeated by your network," Gingrich said. "You chose to start the debate with it. "Don't try to blame somebody else. You and your staff chose to start this debate with it."

On a post-debate CNN panel, King said he knew Gingrich would challenge him, but that it was a matter people were talking about and he felt compelled to raise the issue.

"I don’t read minds," King said. "I don’t want to make a judgment about the speaker's response. I've been covering politics for 25 years. I understood that if I asked the question he was not going to be happy with it and he was going to turn on me."

CNN senior analyst David Gergen was impressed with Gingrich's response, calling it "one of the most explosive moments we have seen in debate history."

"It was also one of the harshest attacks we've had on the press that I can remember in a long, long time," Gergen said. But among the Republican faithful, attacks on the "media elite" can go a long way. And Gergen described Gingrich as taking King's fastball "smash[ing] it out of the park." The audience ate up Gingrich's response, twice standing to applaud.

Still, Gergen defended the moderator, saying that "John had a duty to ask that question."

-- Michael Calderone

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Newt Gingrich, in his closing comments, took aim at Barack Obama, calling the president a "Saul Alinsky" radical and urging Republicans to oust him from the White House.

"This is the most dangerous president of our lifetime," said Gingrich, "and if he is reelected after the disaster he has been, the level of radicalism in this country will be truly frightening."

Gingrich's willingness to spend his closing comments attacking Obama rather than his Republican opponents mirrored the strategy employed earlier in the debate by Romney, who, when asked about his greatest regrets of the campaign, said he wished he had attacked Obama earlier and spent less time going after his Republican opponents.

Romney's comment underscored his status as the Republican frontrunner, granting himself an opening to dig into the man he sees as his real competition for the presidency.

"In addition to beating Obama, we have to have a team victory in the Senate and the House," Gingrich continued, "so that the American people can send a signal in the January of 2013 that they want a very dramatic, very deep change."

Like Gingrich, Romney did his best to paint Obama as in the pocket of radicals, arguing that the president just yesterday bowed to the "most extreme members" of the environmental movement in rejecting a permit for the Keystone XL pipeline.

"You go across the country with regards with energy, and because he has to bow to the most extreme members of the environmental movement he turns down the Keystone pipeline, which would bring energy and jobs to America," Romney said to a smattering of boos that may well have been directed at the president.

-- Lucia Graves

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Perhaps the most noteworthy moment of Thursday's CNN debate was the first question moderator John King asked Newt Gingrich to respond to his ex-wife's allegation that the former speaker wanted an "open marriage."

Gingrich shot back that he was "appalled" King would begin a debate with such a question.

Nevertheless, after the debate, Gingrich told CNN's Anderson Cooper that he thought King did a "great job."

"I thought it was a terrific debate for all of us," Gingrich said. "The audience was appreciative. I thought John did a great job. It was direct, it was tough. You could see the differences. I personally felt pretty good about it. I wanted to keep it at a pretty big level, stay on big themes and really talk about what America needs to do."

-- Amanda Terkel

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CHARLESTON, S.C. -- The Romney campaign emailed a slew of quotes from Newt Gingrich under the title "I think grandiose thoughts" less than an hour after the former House speaker uttered the line.

The email lists seven quotes from Gingrich, including ones in which he calls himself a "transformational figure" and "essentially a revolutionary."

In one article that was referenced, a 2005 interview with GQ, Gingrich said, "I first talked about doing all of this in August of 1958." When asked "all of what," Gingrich replied "saving civilization."

The email goes on to quote Gingrich comparing himself to various historical figures including Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and Abraham Lincoln. One comparison is more vague -- the campaign points out that the South Bend Tribune wrote in 1995 that Gingrich called himself a "Viking."

-- Elise Foley

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CHARLESTON, S.C. -- Rick Santorum went after Mitt Romney Thursday on the issue of unauthorized immigration, saying the former Massachusetts governor supported pathways to citizenship before he opposed them.

"Mitt Romney has the position now that people have to go home, but it was just a few years ago he said there could be a pathway to citizenship," the former Senator from Pennsylvania said. "Now he's changed his position, I understand that. He's done that on a couple occasions."

Romney said his position has been consistent and he has always opposed allowing undocumented immigrants to gain legal status.

"We're not going to round them all up and deport them, but we're also not going to give them a preferential pathway to become permanent residents or citizens," Romney said during the debate. "They need to go back home, apply for citizenship, apply for permanent residence, like everybody else."

In the past, Romney has made vague statements that others said support "amnesty," although he has said they were misunderstood.

In the 2008 McCain opposition research book on Romney, put out earlier this week, there are several quotes from Romney on the issue of "amnesty."

In November 2005, Romney said McCain's immigration plan was “quite different” from amnesty and was "reasonable."

Romney in 2005: "I think an amnesty program is what -- which is all the illegal immigrants who are here are now citizens, and walk up and get your citizenship. What the president has proposed, and what Senator McCain and Cornyn have proposed, are quite different than that." In March 2006, Romney supported "path toward citizenship" for illegal immigrants.

Romney in 2006: "Those that are here paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process towards application for citizenship."

Romney in 2006: "The 11 million or so that are here are not going to be rounded up and box-carted out of America."

Romney told Tim Russert in 2008 that his statements on immigration were at times taken out of context, specifically mentioning his quote that a play was "reasonable," which he said was different from endorsing it.

Since then, Romney has come down even harder on immigration. He, Santorum and Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) all oppose any form of legal status for undocumented immigrants currently in the country unless they go back to their native countries first -- which often means they will never return.

Romney has said he would veto the Dream Act, a bill to provide legal status to some undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as children so long as they attend college or join the military.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is the sole presidential candidate to say some path to legal status is necessary for the undocumented immigrants with longstanding ties to the United States. He drew some fire for that stance on Thursday, but said it was tougher than many believed.

"I believe in what I describe, most of them will go home," Gingrich said of undocumented immigrants.

-- Elise Foley

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@ HuffPostHill : TONIGHT'S WINNERS: Newt Gingrich, grandiosity TONIGHT'S LOSERS: John King, John King's soon-to-be tear-stained pillow

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The audience had to literally browbeat CNN into allowing Ron Paul to have a chance to get in on the "who has what abortion record."

"I'm a doctor," Paul said, not for the first time, in asking to get in on a vaguely health care-related question. Paul, as you may know, is pro-life. That said, his unique take on the role of the federal government trumps his moral disposition. (This, he endeavored to explain, by suggesting that laws cannot correct a person's moral failings.) He went on to contend that whenever the federal government expands their powers into health care, all of the side issues related to health care get more complicated.

Something in Paul's answer touched off Rick Santorum, and he was given the opportunity to assail Paul for his mere "50 percent record" as a pro-life voter -- "about the same as Harry Reid," said Santorum -- as adjudicated by the National Right to Life Committee.

But that's really beside the point when you are talking about a lawmaker who votes the way Paul does. "It's true we have a disagreement on how we deal with it," Paul said to Santorum, explaining that he votes according to his interpretation of the Constitution -- if the matter is something he feels is best left to the states, that's how he votes. That principle trumps his pro-life stance, full stop.

Paul also didn't understand why Santorum was so agitated by his answer. "I didn't direct any part of my answer to you," Paul said, "I think you're just over-sensitive."

-- Jason Linkins

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@ samsteinhp : our president individually started the earthquake in Haiti. he didn't care. it was part of his sordid world vision.

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Mitt Romney came under attack during the later portion of the debate for not being sufficiently pro-life during his time as governor. It's a charge that's dogged him before, in large part because he readily admits that he had an epiphany on the issue.

Newt Gingrich was the attack dog on this night. And while he said he would "accept" that Romney found the light on abortion, he pointed out that the Massachusetts health care law he passed wasn't exactly crafted during a Faith and Freedom Forum.

"After he became pro-life, Romneycare does pay for tax-paid abortions," Gingrich said. "Romneycare has written into it Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in the country, by name. It does not have any right to a life group written into it. He did appoint pro-abortion judges. And a branch of the government which included his appointees did agree to fund an abortion clinic for Planned Parenthood. All that occurred after he had become pro-life. Now, those are all facts, which we validated and essentially that's a legitimate part of the campaign, is to say, OK if you're genuinely pro-life, how come these things are occurring?"

Romney was asked for his response. And it's worth at least offering a verdict on the truth of each of his points.

"I'm not questioned on character and integrity very often," he said (NOT TRUE).

"Let's go through one by one," he went on. "In Romneycare, there's no mention of abortion whatsoever. The courts in Massachusetts, the Supreme Court, was the body that decided at all times if there was any subsidy of health care in Massachusetts that one receive abortion care." (True)

"Its true, somewhere in that bill of ours ... there's the mention of the word Planned Parenthood. it describes a person at a technical advisory board about payment structures. There's no requirement or no participation of Planned Parenthood in our health care plan." (True)

"I appointed probably 50 or 60 judges at the trial court level mostly. ... We don't have a litmus test for appointing judges. Asking them if they're pro-life or not pro-life." (UNKNOWN)

"This is not a time to be doubting people's words or questioning their integrity," Romney added, referencing the very type of campaign activity that he and his surrogates would direct at Gingrich tomorrow.

Gingrich was asked for his response and seemed perfectly content to leave it at that. "I'll yield to Senator Santorum," he said.

-- Sam Stein

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@ HuffPostMedia : Newt THANKS CNN — for giving him the biggest moment of his campaign, no doubt. #cnndebate

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@ HuffPostPol : Gingrich: This is the "most dangerous president of our lifetime" #CNNdebate

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@ HuffPostMedia : John King: 'I wish we could stay all night!' #cnndebate

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Mitt Romney tried to claim he's more of a common man than a privileged son. He claimed that his auto executive father, George Romney, gave him no inheritance.

But according to The Real Romney, written by two Boston Globe reporters, the candidate's father purchased a car for his son when he married his wife Ann. And later, after Romney's second child was born, George Romney helped his son buy a house in a "leafy Boston suburb."

The New York Times also quotes a C-Span interview from 2006 in which Mitt Romney admitted that he had received an inheritance from his father after he died. "I did get a check from my dad when he passed away," Romney said. "I shouldn't say a check, but I did inherit some funds from my dad. But I turned and gave that away to charity."

Romney donated the inheritance to his Brigham Young University. He and his wife both attended the school.

-- Jason Cherkis

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@ HuffPostMedia : Ron Paul introduces us to the 1960s, when 'drugs and the pornography' suddenly came on the scene. #cnndebate

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@ HuffPostHill : Did Santorum just say that God is allowed to be alive?

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@ lucia_graves : Quick! Can we get another old white man's opinion on abortion, please?

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@ howardfineman : Romney already bidding for Santorum endorsement.

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CHARLESTON, S.C. -- The Ron Paul campaign put out a statement about an hour into the debate calling the first question, which was about Newt Gingrich's ex-wife, "highly inappropriate" but calling out the former House speaker for other issues.

"We agree with Newt Gingrich that opening the CNN debate tonight with questions about the former Speaker's personal life is highly inappropriate given the many serious issues this country faces," campaign manager Jesse Benton said in a statement. "Republicans regularly bear unfair media attacks, our campaign included."

Gingrich responded angrily to CNN debate moderator John King when he asked about an interview to be aired on Thursday with Marianne Gingrich. Gingrich's ex-wife told ABC that the former speaker wanted an "open marriage" after she found out he was cheating. Gingrich chided King for asking the question, calling it despicable and part of a liberal media bias.

"I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that," he told King. "I'm tired of the media protecting Barack Obama by attacking Republicans," he added later.

The other candidates mostly declined to talk about Gingrich's infidelity, although some mentioned repeatedly during other portions of the debate that they have been married to the same spouse for years. "I'm proud that my wife of 54 years is with me tonight," Paul said after the exchange.

In the campaign statement, Benton said Paul cares about "Gingrich's attacks on capitalism, the money he took from Freddie Mac and his support for TARP and the individual healthcare mandate."

"Our problem with Newt Gingrich is not that he lied to his wife but that he lied to the American people," he said.

-- Elise Foley

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@ MSignorile : Romney actually called his own health care law "Romneycare" #CNNdebate

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@ howardfineman : "I'm not questioned on character and integrity very often..." says Mitt, irked, and defends himself, well, against Newt abortion attack.

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In a sign of just how dramatically public opinion has swung against the Internet anti-piracy legislation up for a vote next week in the Senate, all four GOP candidates said Thursday evening they opposed it, though Rick Santorum seemed, entirely unsurprisingly, the least comfortable with the notion that, as he put it, "anything goes" on the Internet. (Google it.)

"I favor freedom. I think that we have a patent office, we have copyright law," said Newt Gingrich, rejecting "the idea that we're going to preemptively have the government start censoring."

Mitt Romney agreed. "I think he got it just about right," he said, calling the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) "far too intrusive, far too expansive," and worrying that it could have "a potentially depressing impact" on the growth and development of the Internet.

"If we can find a way to very narrowly go after pirating," said Romney, "we should do that."

Ron Paul noted that he was the first Republican to oppose the bill in the House. He said he was pleased to hear establishment Republicans coming around to his position. "Republicans unfortunately have been on the wrong side of this issue," he said.

Santorum, meanwhile, seemed to be penned in by the unanimous opposition. "I agree with everybody up here that it goes too far," he said, before launching into a defense of regulating the Internet in order to attack piracy. "I'm for free, but I'm not for people abusing the law and I think something proper should be done," he said.

-- Ryan Grim

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@ HuffPostHill : Newt Gingrich supports ANYTHING that results in John King being prosecuted.

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CNN debate moderator John King put all the GOP presidential candidates on the spot about their tax returns Thursday night, asking whether they will make their filings public.

It was an easy question for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who released his returns just as the debate began.

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said he hadn't given the issue much thought and didn't have any intention of doing so.

"I'd probably be embarrassed to put my financial statement up against their income," Paul said, referring to the wealth of the other candidates. "I don't want to be embarrassed because i don't have a greater income. Now, I mean, it may come to that. But right now, I have no intention of doing that."

He added that he has no conflicts of interest, doesn't talk to lobbyists and doesn't "take that kind of money."

Romney, who has faced the most pressure on this topic, said he will release his tax returns in April, if he's the nominee, and would "probably" release his returns from other years as well.

He quickly tried to change the topic, saying Democrats simply wanted to attack people for "being successful."

"And I have been successful," he added before hitting President Obama for playing "90 rounds of golf" while Americans are struggling in the tough economy.

King pointed out that Republicans are often calling on Romney to release his tax filings.

"Why not, should the people of South Carolina, before this election, see last year's return?" asked King to applause from the audience.

"Because I want to make sure that I beat President Obama," replied Romney. "Every time we release things drip by drip, the Democrats go out with another array of attacks. As has been done in the past, I'll put these out at one time so we have one discussion of all of this. I obviously pay all full taxes. I'm honest in my dealings with people. People understand that. My taxes are carefully managed. I pay a lot of taxes. I've been very successful. When I have our taxes ready for this year, I'll release them."

Romney recently revealed that his effective tax rate is 15 percent, below the rate paid by many middle-class families.

Gingrich did not directly attack Romney, saying, "Look, he's got to decide. The people of South Carolina have to decide. If there's anything in there that will help us lose the election, we should know it before the nomination."

Santorum said he does his own taxes.

"They're on my computer and I'm not home," he said. "And there's nobody at home right now until I get home. When I get home, you'll get my taxes."

Finally, Romney refused to commit to the transparency and disclosure of his father, George Romney, who was governor of Michigan. In 1967, the elder Romney released his tax returns for 12 years.

"Maybe. I don't know how many years I'll release," responded Mitt Romney when asked if he'd follow in his father's footsteps. "I'll take a look at what our documents are." The audience booed him.

"I'm not going to apologize for being successful," he added. "I'm not suggesting these people are doing that. But I know the Democrats will go after me on that basis. That's why I want to release these things all at the same time. My dad, as you know, born in Mexico, poor, didn't get a college degree, became head of a car company. I could have stayed in Detroit like him and gotten pulled up in the car -- I went off on my own. I didn't inherit money from my parents. What I have, I earned. I worked hard. The American way."

-- Amanda Terkel

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Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R) laid into fellow GOP candidates Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich for their past support of core elements found in President Obama's signature health reform law.

After Romney and Gingrich said they would do everything as president to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Santorum argued that the two candidates don't have the credibility to address the sweeping health care law during a general election because of their past stances. He had harsh words in particular for the Massachusetts law enacted by Romney while governor, arguing that so-called RomneyCare was no different from the national law.

"It was the basis of ObamaCare, and it's been an abject failure," Santorum said, claiming the Massachusetts law has led to higher premiums and greater dependence on government-funded health care. Speaking to the crowd, Santorum added, "He's going to have to run against a president who is going to say, 'Look, look what you did for Massachusetts. I used your model for it.'"

Romney has been dogged throughout the primary season by the similarities between his own health care overhaul in Massachusetts and the one successfully pushed by Obama in 2010. In fact, many experts who helped create the Massachusetts law aided the White House in crafting the national plan.

"Is it perfect? Absolutely not," Romney said in reference to his Massachusetts law. "But having been there on the front line ... I know how to cut [ObamaCare], I know how to eliminate it and return the power to the states."

When the debate turned to Gingrich's health care history, Santorum and Romney knocked the former House speaker for defending an individual mandate to purchase health insurance, something conservatives have harshly criticized as an attack on personal liberty. Gingrich sang the praises of the individual mandate as recently as 2008.

"As Republican whip, I led the charge against HilaryCare in the House," Gingrich responded, referring to the health care reform pushed by then-First Lady Hilary Clinton during the 1990s. "The fact is I helped found the center for health transformation. ... You will see hundreds of ideas, none of which is in Barack Obama's program."

Turning to Romney, Gingrich said, "I can say, 'I was wrong and I figured it out. You were wrong and you didn’t.'"

-- Dave Jamieson

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@ howardfineman : Santorum begins his valedictory, takes satisfaction in making it to the "Final Four." He speaks in the past tense about what he had proved

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While the Republican candidates for president were getting ready for their umpteenth debate, the current occupant of the White House pointed to the GOP sparring matches as evidence that the other party is abandoning common ground they had with Democrats just three years ago.

And that rightward swerve will make this election tougher, and even more important than 2008's, President Barack Obama told a group of well-heeled donors at a fundraiser in New York Thursday evening.

This year is going to be as stark a choice as we have seen -- a starker choice than we saw in 2008. I mean, think about it. In 2008, I was running against a Republican nominee who agreed that we should ban torture, agreed that we should close Guantanamo, believed in climate change, had worked on immigration reform. And so as profound as the differences were between myself and John McCain, there was some sense of convergence when it came to some very important issues. If you’ve been listening to the Republican debates, they have moved. (Laughter.) I’ve stayed here. (Laughter.) They’ve gone in a different direction.

Now, that’s going to make for a hugely important, hugely consequential election -- partly because we need to win this election to consolidate all the gains that we’ve made over the last three years.

-- Mike McAuliff

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@ howardfineman : If life or politics consisted only of debates, Newt would be king, or more. But they are not, and Newt is not.

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Rick Santorum made a veiled reference to his role in blowing the lid off the early-‘90s congressional check-kiting scandal, dropping the bombshell that Newt Gingrich told him he knew about the illegality but purposely did nothing about it. For background on the scandal, where better to turn than Brian Thornton’s The Book of Bastards: 101 Worst Scoundrels and Scandals from the World of Politics and Power. From page 83:
Members of Congress began writing checks they couldn’t cash with something resembling absolute freedom from punishment. The worst offender, Democratic Congressman Tommy F. Robinson of Arkansas, wrote 996 NSF checks; his House Bank account was overdrawn for sixteen months. Other members began kiting checks between their House Bank accounts and their personal bank accounts. The scandal came to public light when the U.S. Government Accountability Office released a report on the House Bank late in 1991. At that point, a group of freshman congressional Republicans demanded an investigation. These men later became known as the “Gang of Seven” or the “Young Turks:” Scott Klug (Wisc.), Rick Santorum (Pa.), Jim Nussle (Iowa), John Doolittle (Calif.), Frank Riggs (Calif.), Charles Taylor (N.C.), and John Boehner (Ohio). When the House Ethics Committee conducted an inquiry, Gingrich smelled blood in the water. Many more Democrats than Republicans were implicated; of the top twenty-two check-kiters identified by the committee, nineteen were Democrats. Gingrich then pressured House Speaker Tom Foley to publicly release the names of all members who had written bad checks. Foley, who only wanted to identify the top twenty-two, capitulated and released the entire list. In an early sign of things to come, it was revealed that Gingrich had written twenty bad checks against his own account. In the end, eleven of the twenty-two worst offenders were defeated in the 1994 election; all but one were Democrats. A later investigation resulted in criminal convictions or guilty pleas for five ex-members, and for the former House Sergeant-at-Arms, Jack Russ.

-- Ryan Grim

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dbrett480
04:09 PM on 01/21/2012
It would have been great if the new Herman Cain had participated in the debate.
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Endogenous Light Nexus
There actually is light within you
09:15 PM on 01/20/2012
I'm guessing that Marianne is not going to be on Newtie's Xmas card list anymore.
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10:57 AM on 01/20/2012
how can a debate not delve into our economy, and our dangerous debt problems?

the only guy to touch very briefly on our debt problem was Paul.. during his answer to the Apple/China question, he finished by saying his main problem with our trade relationship with the Chinese is what China is doing with the money - the central bank of China has been spending this surplus US cash on purchasing American debt.. what he never gets the time to explain - other than quick blurbs as time runs out on him - is that this debt is in Treasury securities that mature over time and pay interest during that time.. China owns over ONE TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH of US debt, and we're paying BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in interest on them.. we've become dependent on them to continue purchasing our debt so we can pay for everything from our social entitlements to the military.. and when they mature, China is entitled to receive their face value.. and how do we pay for that? BY SELLING MORE! crazy, right?! and what happens if they stop buying more? we have to come up with the money to MAKE GOOD ON THE ONES WE SOLD! that means cutting everything that's currently being funded from them, and more..

our economy is in danger of collapsing, and only Paul ever mentions it.. if you think things are tough now, they can get worse
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dawntoduskcm
Moderate Independent
11:43 AM on 01/20/2012
Like i commented months ago the result of unlimited deficit spending would lead to bankruptcy.I got a reply that the US can just print more money.lol like THAT will fix the problem,what is scary to me is that many seem to think that way!
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11:57 AM on 01/20/2012
understood.. it's unfortunate that 10 minutes of a national debate viewed by millions was dedicated to Gingrich's private life.. Americans will make up their own judgement on that.. have we become so lazy, and ignorant that we can only get interested in subjects that titillate? we've got Obama singing, Romney squirming, and Gingrich feigning outrage as the debt rises, and rises, and rises... and a large amount of our obligations to pay are excluded from the actual numbers.. god help us if other nations stop pumping into our pyramid scheme
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Kathleen August
10:00 AM on 01/20/2012
Memo to Newt: this is the chickens coming home to roost. A serial adulterer and his home-wrecking adulteress for POTUS and FLOTUS? I don't think so. Karma's a b**ch, ain't it!
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thecannula
05:27 PM on 01/20/2012
In NY, where I reside, Newt would be an average West Sider, but in South Caroliner, I'd suspect that when PPP calls, one would tell them what they want to hear, but alone in the polling booth- that's another thing entirely- Romney- married for 42 years or Santorum- Boy Scout with heavy (non Social Conservative) Ear Marks.
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VietVet67
I wore the uni for this?
09:44 AM on 01/20/2012
Aww. Newty's a "victim" of the media. Where have we heard that before?
10:33 AM on 01/20/2012
Yes... I remember I remember it was Hillary who said she is a victim of the Media... or was that of the vast right wing ..............rofl
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VietVet67
I wore the uni for this?
10:41 AM on 01/20/2012
Umm no. This thing:

http://www.politicususa.com/en/sarah-palin-herman-cain-victim
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Century21Thinker
09:16 AM on 01/20/2012
It only turned ugly for King.
He deserved it.
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DougSmith
I calls it like I sees it
09:46 AM on 01/20/2012
So you thought Newt shouldn't have been asked about it?
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Century21Thinker
10:12 AM on 01/20/2012
Certainly not the FIRST question, perhaps some filler 21st question, if necessary.

I like Newt's ideas and know that he can'r execute any of them,
yet this issue is relevant to nothing that is important to the country.
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Kathleen August
10:01 AM on 01/20/2012
King was doing his job. If the subject is offensive - blame Newt.
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Century21Thinker
10:09 AM on 01/20/2012
Since the party of john Edwards can't distinguish between salacious
and just pain silly,
I can see how you think that issue is serious.
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OneLiberalLady
Liberals rock!
09:07 AM on 01/20/2012
One of Perry's funniest lines ever: "Newt's not perfect, but who among us is?"
The understatement of the century!
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CASSIE60
Think before you speak. Read before you think
08:19 AM on 01/20/2012
Neut said President Obama was the most dangerous President in our lifetime of America.....yeah

To Bin Laden and other terrorist threats to America.....they should be afraid very afraid of President Obama.

Hey Neut that was a compliment to our President!
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OneLiberalLady
Liberals rock!
09:07 AM on 01/20/2012
Hear, hear!
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Century21Thinker
09:17 AM on 01/20/2012
Obviously, another union English teacher "taught" you.
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angler725
It's gotten comical now.
08:11 AM on 01/20/2012
Gee if Newt was a Dem (which he acts like in private life) I think he could run against Obama and win.
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Bocababs
08:09 AM on 01/20/2012
Like it or not, CNN is a Network that has been searching for their identity for a few years now. They do not want to be considered partisan, and having NOT done that yet, have managed to go through quite a few news people in the last few years like a "leaf blower on a windy day in Florida".
09:10 AM on 01/20/2012
CNN= Clinton's News Network... To find their ratings you have to hire a dive team and send them down as low as the bow of the Titanic to uncover that number.
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earto44
Defender of planet Erf.
07:55 AM on 01/20/2012
The best part of the evening was when Newt actually said his X wife is lying. That he never asked her for an open marriage. I would love to hear what she has to say about that.

This is classic Newt. When someone brings up an issue you aren't comfortable with Attack them.
Call them a liar. Attack them some more. But don't answer the question.
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kathy smelser
09:23 AM on 01/20/2012
one more good thing ...an aid to Rick P stated that Rick would run for President in 2016 so that he can run against PRESIDENT OBAMA ...Presidents only get 2 terms ....will someone please tell Rick
10:36 AM on 01/20/2012
yea we all know how reliable our ex's stories are.......... (eyeroll)
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hotbarb2614
proud military mother
07:52 AM on 01/20/2012
Newts tired of the media pampering the president. To begin with he whasn't got a past like yours and the president has bee draged through morte BS than you ever will.
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Swiftyfish
Wisdom is an inheritance a wastrel can't exhaust
07:43 AM on 01/20/2012
Their stand on healthcare was the big joke. It appeared to me they just want to repeal Obamacare because President Obama created it, and for no other reason. Regardless of how we pay for healthcare for the uninsured, we will pay for it. It doesn't matter if we pay at the state level or the federal level. We still are paying for it! The statement by Newt that his plan would cover pre-existing conditions if you are INSURED told me all I needed to know about his compassion for the uninsured, and the exclusion thereof!
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vonric
08:21 AM on 01/20/2012
Bingo.. and, in the absence of comprehensive coverage that amortizes massive costs for some segments of the population over those who are, essentially, healthy, the cost of third party insurance that is "voluntary" (either via workplace coverage or personal policies) will continue to rise as we pay for the uninsured.
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Lawyer13
retired Lawyer, General and Psychiatric Nurse, wit
07:22 AM on 01/20/2012
A view from England : So they call this a DEBATE, it seems more like a MAFIA family get together, and a BACK STABBERS CONVENTION, where are the POLICIES and PLANS to get America back to work again, answer NOWHERE at all.
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dawntoduskcm
Moderate Independent
11:59 AM on 01/20/2012
There is one with a plan RON PAUL the best man running left or right!
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Lawyer13
retired Lawyer, General and Psychiatric Nurse, wit
02:02 PM on 01/20/2012
Actually if I had a vote it would have to be Ron Paul, but he does have bad points too, and in my opinion is too old to be President and leader of the free world
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Saxton
06:13 AM on 01/20/2012
Can you imagine if it were a woman candidate that had a past similar to Newts? I'll never understand Republicans where they are perfectly content to fall behind candidates that with such low moral and ethical character.
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hotbarb2614
proud military mother
07:49 AM on 01/20/2012
The governor of S,Carolina was accused of having affairs.
10:46 AM on 01/20/2012
OMG this is too funny......... how about how the DEMS walked lock step behind the Kennedy's and the Clintons and cheered for Edwards............. gawd
12:50 PM on 01/20/2012
Clinton never seemed near as sleazy as Gingrich, nor did he go on a hypocritical crusade for family values as a way to attack other politicians. Edwards vanished from politics when his scandal broke, losing all Dem support, you really didn't notice that?
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Endogenous Light Nexus
There actually is light within you
09:25 PM on 01/20/2012
'DEMS' generally allow for people to have private lives and mind their own business, it's Repugs that wanted to make Bill Clinton's sex life a big deal and it's HILARIOUS in a hypocrisy-exposing way today that Gingrich was leading that charge while he was simultaneously cheating on his own wife at the time. Now Repugs are in the position of having to live by the unrealistic and petty moral standards they themselves set, so it is high humor watching them twist in the wind when they are exposed and even higher humor seeing their propagandized sheep like you defending their low morals! Thanks for the comedy comment!