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Janitors Disparage Newt Gingrich's Plan To Fire, Replace Them With Children (VIDEO)

First Posted: 01/19/12 06:56 PM ET Updated: 01/19/12 07:00 PM ET

Despite his current surge in the South Carolina polls, Newt Gingrich's star is not rising among one group of workers who have been a key talking point on the campaign trail: unionized janitors who the former House speaker says make "an absurd amount of money" and should be fired and replaced with poor schoolchildren.

At a high school in Hudson, N.H., where Gingrich gave a speech last week, the janitors are represented by the Teamsters union. They start off earning $16.86 an hour, or $28,324 a year, according to the local union contract.

Before Gingrich arrived on Jan. 9, several of them were readying the auditorium for his event. The men weren't impressed by his plan for their jobs. Those surveyed began with one basic point: If their jobs are turned over to schoolchildren, they would be out of work. But they quickly moved on to what they see as the more offensive issue: that a man like Gingrich -- who made around $1.6 million offering advice to mortgage giant Freddie Mac -- would claim to know anything about janitorial work.

"If you leave these custodians go, they're going to be out of a job," said Jerry Mishow, head custodian at the school, who earns the top janitorial wage of $25.41 an hour, or $42,688 a year. "Leave well enough alone."

"It just shows how out of touch with reality he is," added Brian McNamara, another custodian.

"I don't think he knows what it feels like to be down in the trenches, actually, you know, with the average everyday guy," said a third custodian, Peter Petrakis.

"He doesn't even know what a custodian job is," Mishow added. "How can he put kids mixing chemicals and everything else?"

"That's so wrong on so many levels," Petrakis agreed.

Janitors are not the only people to disparage Gingrich's controversial strategy to fight both child poverty and the jobs crisis by replacing adult janitors with working kids. Economists who study job creation say it won't improve the economy, academics who study children and poverty say it won't help poor kids, and unions who represent janitors say it's an affront to working people.

"You could take one janitor and hire 30-some kids to work in the school for the price of one janitor," Gingrich said at Monday night's Republican debate in South Carolina. "And those 30 kids would be a lot less likely to drop out. They would actually have money in their pocket."

His remarks were greeted with cheers from the audience.

"It's another absurd statement designed to appeal to the anti-union right-wing base," said Robert Troeller, president of Local 891, International Union of Operating Engineers, which represents New York City custodial engineers. "A man with a million-dollar line of credit at Tiffany's has the audacity to claim janitors are overpaid."

Video by Anne Thompson.

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Despite his current surge in the South Carolina polls, Newt Gingrich's star is not rising among one group of workers who have been a key talking point on the campaign trail: unionized janitors who the...
Despite his current surge in the South Carolina polls, Newt Gingrich's star is not rising among one group of workers who have been a key talking point on the campaign trail: unionized janitors who the...
 
 
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marco01 12:57 AM on 01/20/2012
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, janitors miss work due to on-the-job injuries more often than almost any other occupation. They rank in the top seven on that statistic, along police officers and construction workers. Janitors get splashed with corrosive chemicals. They injure their backs bending over mops and toilets all day. 

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GHY1
04:56 PM on 02/23/2012
Newt wants children to be janitors. Why not let them be the politicians? I wonder if they could do a better job
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Jondrea Smith
untied dog in a dogmatic society
10:17 AM on 01/24/2012
Dear Mr. Newton Leroy;

Might I suggest that rather than downplay the role service workers play in civilized society, you show your appreciation by proposing a living wage for everybody so that we won't be having this argument. It would seem what with your history of messes, you would have more esteem for the people who clean them up. And for the record, children are not poor because they lack work ethic. They're children. And while they should be developing a strong work ethic as part of their growing up process, it is not incumbent upon them to become miniature breadwinners in order to massage your Dickensian obsession.

Signed;

A Very concerned citizen.
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Ember Firedog
A satiated micro-bio is not empty.
07:27 PM on 01/23/2012
That's the spirit, janitors. Hit this_cre_tin where it hurts. Until you organize and_pun_ch_him in the mouth, he'll continue to dream up these nonsensical fantasies that are useful for soundbites, but useless when viewed from any other perspective. It will be a very satisfying experience for you to send this pom_pous_a_$$ into retirement.
01:06 PM on 01/23/2012
Old Newt should go into one of these schools and start mixing cleaning chemicals in order to do a bit of cleaning, bet he never even thought about "kids mixing chemicals" when he opened his nasty mouth.
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isee61
~Marine Mom~ and proud of it!
12:28 PM on 01/23/2012
Newt thinks, so what if I'm wrong, I sound good while I'm saying and that is all that counts for me!

....but what Newt just don't get, that campaigning is not about YOU, Newt. It suppose to be about what you can do for US.

It's called PUBLIC SERVICE, not KING for 4 years.
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Ember Firedog
A satiated micro-bio is not empty.
07:29 PM on 01/23/2012
Soundbites are all that matters to Newt. He doesn't give a fig for _truth or_ethics. That is amply demonstrated by his record of ethics violations and subsequent fines in Congress.
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LeftLeanWing
Ah.. I said..Ah Said I said... Proceed Guv'nah
07:41 PM on 01/22/2012
Political Ad Idea #5
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The Gingrich Apprentice....
 based on  Disney's 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice'...

Scene:

Show a UNION Janitor with a box of his belongings walking out of the school.

Then show ...  Gingrich waving his hands controlling all of these kids.... in an orderly fashion....  with mops and buckets...  mopping everything in sight on site....

Show more and more and more kids with mops and buckets
water.. suds.... wet kids...   everywhere... in movement to the Newty beat...

CHANGE SCENE to a Fire Station....

Show Newt Walking in....  with a miles long trail of Kids holding hoses and axes behind him.....

Newt Says: " NEXT ! "
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Ballu12b
Parodist. Deflating the bloated.
10:22 AM on 01/23/2012
Clever. Would make a good movie, with Nutt dressed as Santa Claus leading his tiny tots into heir various work shops. Mops toy, axes toys, happy kids dancing around the buffing machines, and cleaning those jolly high-rise windows.
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ttsgw
Atheist and secular humanist
04:19 PM on 01/22/2012
But I'm sure many of these janitors vote republican hoping their taxes will be lower, and then blaming the democrats for losing their jobs.
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2lib4oh
01:34 AM on 01/23/2012
My husband worked his way through grad school as a janitor and he is hardly a republican.Please don't fall into the trap of disrespecting the janitors because they don't have a high status job. Its real work and they are real people.
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Ballu12b
Parodist. Deflating the bloated.
10:26 AM on 01/23/2012
Agreed. It's one of those nightly and necessary hands-on jobs, which make daily work places tolerable to work in.
01:08 PM on 01/23/2012
You are correct! I have more respect for janitors than I do bankers on Wall Street.
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
02:43 PM on 01/22/2012
I am truly disgusted by the lack of respect that the Conservative posters (probably paid) have for hardworking working class people as demonstrated by their vitriol (look it up Conservatives...you can even use the internet) toward hard working janitors and other union personnel. While I, myself, am a professional, I know of many people who are in a union. All of them work just as hard, if not harder than I do, and in difficult, often dangerous and often dirty jobs. The demise of this nation is demonstrated in the fact that so many people disdain work with one's hands that necessitates washing them, while this is the backbone of human society.....not gambling other people's money in $5,000.00 suits and Armani ties. Americans USED to have great respect for manual labor. In losing that, we have lost a large part of our national soul.
AnonymousDissenter
Conscientious cultural objector
11:51 AM on 01/22/2012
I've heard a few conservatives defend this proposal by saying that Japan does not have janitors and that the students do this work.

But the Japanese do not differentiate between the rich and poor students -- everyone participates in school cleaning, even teachers and the principals, at the end of the school day. It's called gekko soji, and it's a Buddhist thing, not an economic thing.

What Newt is proposing in only having poor children do it, goes directly against the philosophical reason that the Japanese have all students clean, in that it reinforces class divides that gekko soji is specifically supposed to teach against.

And besides, Japanese schools do have plant operations staff who still do the heavy work that is not appropriate for children, such as operating machinery and mixing chemicals.
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LeftLeanWing
Ah.. I said..Ah Said I said... Proceed Guv'nah
07:44 PM on 01/22/2012
Fanned for being INFORMATIVE and Teaching.
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Candide33
I heart Bernie Sanders
12:12 AM on 01/22/2012
None of the GOP candidates has ever worked a day in their lives.
10:35 PM on 01/21/2012
$25 an hour to mop floors and clean toilets? Janitorial work should pay no more than about $9 an hour. Newt has a good idea but it should apply to kids of all races and backgrounds. Make these kids do some work in their schools. Nobody ever got harmed by mopping a floor or cleaning up after themselves.
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vandegrasse
Don't Panic
11:50 PM on 01/21/2012
Let's see you do it for any amount!
06:05 PM on 01/22/2012
I did it when I was in high school to save for my education. I used to scrub dishes in a restaurant for $3.35 an hour
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
02:20 PM on 01/22/2012
When the Republicans say "class warfare," they're right. It is the Republicans who started the offensive and people like you are continuing it. Being a janitor is very hard work, and requires, in today's world, a knowledge of mixing of chemicals, maintenance and many other skills. They also have to clean up after kids who are ill and the few who are vandals. They deserve their hourly wage. And only the most senior make $25 an hour, but you knew that didn't you....just typical Republican hype. Or didn't you bother to read the whole article?
06:08 PM on 01/22/2012
I read the whole article and $1000 a week is way too much for a school janitor when classrooms are overcrowded and school budgets are tight. I could pay any high school kid $9 dollar a hour to mop a floor clean a toilet or take out the trash.
08:43 PM on 01/21/2012
We could always replace Newt with a monkey
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mmike1969
05:02 PM on 01/22/2012
Let's not insult monkeys!
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onwisco
all the facts left uncovered
06:24 PM on 01/22/2012
I'm betting they wish that branch never evolved.
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Andy49
pragmatist
08:04 PM on 01/21/2012
There is not a politician alive that has any clue as to how most Americans actually live. They have never been in the trenches do hard work day in and day out. Most are lawyers, enough said.
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
02:22 PM on 01/22/2012
So, the devil comes to a lawyer and says, "I'll make you incredibly wealthy and successful, but it will cost your soul, that of you wife and kids, and that of your parents." Lawyer says, "Sounds like a fine deal, but what's the catch?"
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RobJames
busy scraping conservatism off the sole of my shoe
11:26 PM on 01/22/2012
Lawyer buys a brand new Mercedes and brings it by the firm to show it off. As he is getting out of his plush new car, a city bus rolls by and rips his door off. John Doe Esq. goes ballistic screaming four letter words for everyone streetside to hear. After he begins to cool down from his tirade, a lil old lady comes up to him to tell him cars can be replaced and he should be more worried about his severed arm. To which the Lawyer replies "Oh !@#, my f%#$ing Rolex!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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cliff53
07:30 PM on 01/21/2012
Well, look at it on the positive side. When wife number 2 gets thru bashing him, and he looses the nomination, he will be lucky if he can find a job as a janitor.
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
02:23 PM on 01/22/2012
The fact that a woman doesn't like him is just red meat to the misogynistic Republicans. He went UP in the polls when his ex told what a putz he was. He's probably the hero of Republican males everywhere.
07:28 PM on 01/21/2012
It just takes a little thought to figure this all out. The unions are the Dem's biggest contributors, and what better way to destroy the Democratic Party than bust the unions who support them.