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Gary Johnson: 'Mickey Mouse Would Poll 15 Percent Against Obama And Romney'

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First Posted: 01/20/2012 12:53 pm Updated: 01/20/2012 2:07 pm

WASHINGTON -- Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson has no qualms about running as a third party candidate, telling HuffPost in a recent interview he thinks Americans are so dissatisfied with their options that "Mickey Mouse would poll 15 percent against Obama and Romney." That's actually not as far-fetched as one might think.

According to a new poll, more than two-thirds of American voters would consider voting for a third party candidate and a full 48 percent say a third party is necessary. Throw in numbers like 22 percent of voters saying they would definitely vote for a third party candidate they agreed with and 28 percent saying they would flatly rule it out, and presidential frontrunners may have something to worry about.

“I think there's a real opportunity that a third party candidate could poll significantly enough to be on the stage in what would be the national debates," said Johnson, the former New Mexico governor. "I think that's a possibility, and if that happens, I would hope to be that third party nominee to be able to do that.”

A longtime proponent of marijuana legalization and drug policy reform, Johnson was vocally opposed to his exclusion from the Republican presidential debates when he was running as a Republican. He said he is continuing to stay in the race, after having switched to the Libertarian ticket, largely as a way to promote his socially liberal and fiscally conservative message.

"I'm asked the question," Johnson said, "'Aren't you going to take votes away from the Republicans?' My response is, 'Oh yeah, all those Republicans that want to see marijuana legalized and think Mitt Romney is going to accommodate that?"

Johnson also hopes to pick up the national dialogue where Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), a fellow libertarian and a GOP presidential candidate, leaves off.

"It's not about the candidates," said Johnson, "it's about the message. I really think that, I wish Ron Paul the best. Ron Paul and I have some differences, I don't know how great ... but I don't think he's going to be the nominee. So this message, this agenda dies when he's through within the Republican primary."

Shortly after announcing he would run for president on the libertarian ticket, Johnson held a two-hour live chat with the Marijuana Policy Project's Rob Kampia that had some people predicting he would make the repeal of marijuana prohibition a central pillar of his campaign.

But in his interview with HuffPost, Johnson distanced himself from that notion.

"No, it's never been central," he said of drug policy to his campaign, "but to me it's indicative of a whole bunch of other issues."

Johnson has instead made trimming federal spending his banner issue, laying out a blueprint for how to cut federal spending by 43 percent. Indeed in an election where jobs and the economy will loom large, a fiscal conservative founding his candidacy on spending cuts hardly comes as a surprise.

But as fiscally conservative politicians go, Johnson’s views are anything but vanilla.

“I believe that the fastest growing segment of the Republican party are those that are Libertarian-leaning,” Johnson said. “I have issues with the extreme right of the Republican party. I do. I always have," he added. "And I have issues with the extreme left of the Democrat party. I always have. But I don't know if I really have issues with what you'd call the extreme segment of the Libertarian party.”

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James Peron
06:18 AM on 01/23/2012
I would not say Gary Johnson pulled back from the message. I have listened to him speak several times. I spoke to him privately twice and interviewed him once for my HuffPo column. His message has been very consistent. He emphasizes several issues including the deficit, marijuana and support for marriage equality. I wouldn't say he was going to push one over the others. But having heard him give four speeches to four different audiences I can attest he hits on all the issues and has not wavered on them or "pulled back."
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04:43 PM on 02/24/2012
since you had a opportunity to speak with him, what do you think that johnson need have or to improve upon to give him a fair chance in an election?
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BinghamLofts
04:56 PM on 01/22/2012
if you are depending on the vote of people who would vote for a mouse character, we are in trouble.
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Sheilah Davis
If it's broken, we must fix it.
01:46 PM on 01/22/2012
Good Luck Candidate Johnson. You're already threatening the Republicans, if they are concerned about lost votes then the problem is their message.

Oh, and to the press, Ron Paul is NOT a libertarian. He doesn't believe in freedom for women when it comes to birth control nor is he interested in equal rights for people who are not heterosexual.
03:36 AM on 01/23/2012
What Ron Paul believes is that the Government should not be involved in those issues, and he is right.
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Symphysodon
10:54 AM on 01/21/2012
Maybe this election year I will "bake
09:00 AM on 01/21/2012
Gary Johnson was a popular and successful Republican Governor that governed as a small 'L' libertarian in a 2:1 Democratic state. Gary Johnson is proven electable and his timing for a third party run this year is perfect.

Gary Johnson is a decent and accomplished person. Gary Johnson is a principled, pragmatic and effective leader. Gary Johnson has proven, successful executive experience. He is a very well qualified and credible candidates. His policies are distinct from the Democratic-Republican-Corporate Political Complex and have cross-party appeal. A great candidate at the right time.

Gary Johnson 2012!
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DougDeWitt
progressive social-capitalist
01:56 PM on 01/22/2012
I have contributed to the Gary Johnson campaign, and have been invited by the Libertarian Party to work for him in his new role. I will do so. I will join the LP, and likely attend the national convention in Las Vegas, in May.

As you recall, Ron Paul ran on the LP ticket in 2008, getting his a$$ kicked of course. Regardless of how well he does in the mainstream GOP race leading up to the RNC convention, I see the Republican Party soundly snubbing him, as they did Gary Johnson early on... and leaving a residual war-chest, a candidate with a sound organizational structure, and a lot of people Seriously Twisted.

I've started having "Ron Paul/Gary Johnson" fantasies, picking up the dropped ball, and gaining the kind of momentum that BO rode into the White House. The voting bloc of "Obama progressives", myself included, are disillusioned enough that such a combination might mushroom into something we can live with... not perfect, but in these times, having been abandoned by the Democratic Party we all supported four years ago, I'm feeling we should take these big-block victories, and work on the women's rights issues all over again if necessary.
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Tammy Rainey
04:59 AM on 01/21/2012
the ironic thing is that while so VERY many in this country are DEEPLY dissatisfied with both parties, the status quo, and sold-out government, in this golden moment in which both the left and the right are saying "What the hell?" ... in this moment when a third contender - if he's a serious person with a track record, not some guy you've never heard of who's never held office, and not some Donald Trump publicity stunt - has a real, legitimate chance, to rock the foundations of the existing structure...

there are still those who can't resist the urge to mock and scorn - and in so doing you cast a vote for the current dumb and dumber pack of sell-outs. And, IMO, forfeit your right to ever complain about it again. Because this moment won't return.

if Johnson is squashed by the skeptics rather than embraced by those who really want to see REAL change, no credible candidate will try it again for a generation.

And yes, he's a credible candidate. Do some research.
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USS Constitution
Any fool can know. The point is to understand.
07:27 PM on 01/20/2012
I'd bet a year of my salary that Jon Huntsman wouldn't poll 15% against Romney and Obama.
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USS Constitution
Any fool can know. The point is to understand.
07:29 PM on 01/20/2012
Geez, I think I need glasses. It's Johnson not Huntsman.
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hetrose
Laugh, Love, Live!
08:00 PM on 01/20/2012
Well, then you are right twice with one statement...
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plaidsportcoat
06:52 PM on 01/20/2012
yada yada
waiting for a lefty party, tick tick tick
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SeattleNick
Do your own research to find your truth.
05:55 PM on 01/20/2012
Gary what would you poll against Mickey?
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Veganie
Live food, live bodies
05:18 PM on 01/20/2012
Obama's decisions prove just how much of a leader he really is, he is taken seriously by anyone over the age of eight.
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RMForbes
Ask me about industrial hemp
05:15 PM on 01/20/2012
Yes, it is important to liberate cannabis but the Libertarians would also create more problems in our economy for the 160 million American's that earn a paycheck. Yes, liberating cannabis will allow hemp to be grown once again by American farmers which will create millions of living wage manufacturing jobs and reinvigorate the entire manufacturing sector but the Libertarians would undo the federal regulations that protect the American people from the economic power of monopolies. Today, the problem of money influence in government is already a very big problem, we don't need to make it worse by putting any radical Libertarian in charge.
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Tammy Rainey
04:53 AM on 01/21/2012
could you please provide a link to information demonstrating this to be Johnson's position?
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RMForbes
Ask me about industrial hemp
03:22 PM on 01/21/2012
I was referring to the Libertarian party platform not specifically Gary Johnson's positions. http://www.lp.org
06:50 AM on 01/21/2012
How would abolishing The Private Federal Reserve & Their Tax Collecting unit The IRS along with Their Income Tax Give Them More Power, Along With Ending The Wars & The Empire & The National Security Police State Give The More Power & How Would Returning The powers back to the States Be Giving Them More Power, How Would Restoring Our limited constitutional republican for of government & Our liberties, Be Giving Them More Power ? Why Don't you Read The Libertarian Party Platform At:www.lp.org. And Then get back to me!!!
01:06 PM on 01/21/2012
While Ron Paul advocates ending the Fed (something I'm inclined to personally favor) Gary Johnson's position is to audit it and limit it's scope. You really need to read his web site before you accuse him of things. An LP candidate for the Presidential nomination is required to submit a document indicating the platform he will run on. It is then up to the delegates at the convention to determine if that platform is in close enough alignment with the party's platform to select him as its representative. That will happen in Las Vegas in early May. The public is invited to everything except the business sessions (for a fee in some cases) and there will be many opportunities to hear from and speak personally with all the candidates.
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RMForbes
Ask me about industrial hemp
03:30 PM on 01/21/2012
I was referring to their desire to eliminate most of the government oversight of corporations by eliminating most of the government agencies that have these oversight responsibilities and their desire to end all government regulations. Specifically the regulations on business that protects consumers from unsavory business practices that they believe would be better addressed in the free market. We all know that is code for buyer beware, you're on your own.
05:07 PM on 01/20/2012
Mickey Mouse need not to run for the presidency. We already have Grumpy, more Grumpy, Bambi crying her eyes out, and Goofy thinking he has a brother as president in the White House. But Obama should ask Mickey for the” Mouseketool” so he can fix the economy.
04:33 PM on 01/20/2012
As time passes Gary's message will get out. He's the best man running and the people that want to make a difference in this world will vote for him. Don't vote for the lesser of two evils, vote as if you were recommending a candidate to God. May the best man win.
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elamatt
Ever the optimistic realist
04:00 PM on 01/20/2012
I think Mickey is smart enough NOT to get into the race, even with those cute ears!
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RepublicansAreFail
The first 3 letters of Conservatism spell "CON"
03:53 PM on 01/20/2012
Americans aren't very bright.
celtic08
Just the facts man, just the facts
04:45 PM on 01/20/2012
just the way the R's like them!! F&F!