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Arizona Bible Courses: Lawmaker Introduces Bill To Teach Bible Elective In Public Schools

First Posted: 01/24/2012 5:40 pm Updated: 01/24/2012 5:50 pm

An Arizona lawmaker wants to create a high school course for public and charter school students that would teach the Bible and its role in Western culture.

House Bill 2473, proposed by Republican state Rep. Terri Proud, would allow high schools to offer an elective course on the "critical evaluation and examination of the Bible as a literary work" beginning June 30, 2013.

A second proposal, HB 2563, would require the State Board of Education to determine requirements for a high school course titled "The Bible and its influence on Western Culture," which would include lessons on the history, literature and influence of the Old and New testaments on laws, government and culture, among other aspects of society.

The course must follow state and federal laws in maintaining religious neutrality, and credits from the course would count toward student graduation. Students are also not to be required to use a specific version of the Bible. The regulations are intentionally specific so no one will "go rogue on this topic," Proud told The Arizona Republic. She notes that the bills are written in a way that make it clear that teachers can teach the Bible "in a very restricted way."

"A lot of it has to do with debunking a lot of ignorance that our districts are trying to force upon the teachers," Proud told The Republic. "There are people out there who hate the Bible and everything about it. That's fine, but don't deprive our children of biblical literature because of your personal feelings."

Proud says students would benefit from learning about the Bible as foundational, basic knowledge. Arizona state law doesn't ban the use of the Bible or other religious texts in the classroom as long as it is being used for academic purposes without intent on religious indoctrination.

"It is everywhere around us, and to say that I don't want my child exposed to that, then we might as well not have air and breathe because it is implemented into our society," Proud told MyFox Phoenix.

Critics are troubled by the bills, arguing that teaching religion and the Bible is tricky -- and teachers are often not sufficiently or properly trained to teach the subject effectively. It's also difficult to teach a Bible course without imposing religious views, even inadvertently, Victoria Lopez, a program director with the Arizona office of the American Civil Liberties Union, told the Associated Press.

"It's very easy for teachers to cross the line and violate students' religious rights," Lopez told AP. "There's a lot of room here for those violations to take place."

Others, like Sue Skidmore, president of the Paradise Valley Unified School District Governing Board, told AP that issues on high school electives shouldn't even belong in the Legislature, and that state lawmakers have more pressing issues to tend to.

If the bills pass, Arizona would become the sixth state to allow districts to offer a high school elective Bible course. Georgia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and South Carolina are currently the only ones with laws permitting these courses. Other states like Kentucky have introduced similar proposals, but the bills have failed to be come law.

And while the debate in Arizona over the courses is over educational value, fairness and legality, the question elsewhere is one of money.

Georgia was the first state in the country to allow Bible education classes in public schools when the program first launched in 2006. But as the years passed, student interest in the once-controversial courses has slowed, and Bible course offerings across the state are dwindling amid budget cuts and low class enrollment.

Columbia County schools Superintendent Charles Nagle recently cut Bible classes from three to one in his district. Students are also finding less time in their packed schedules for elective courses as they strive to meet basic state graduation requirements.

According to MyFox Phoenix, the attorney general will review the proposed Arizona curriculum to ensure constitutionality. The bills have been assigned to the House Education Committee, pending a hearing date.

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antigaychristianssuck
deus cinaedus est
01:09 AM on 03/02/2012
If this goes through, secularists need to make sure they get some of their children into those classes to monitor what's going on and sue the schools for violations.
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Bruce Joseph
Think before you vote.
04:35 PM on 01/31/2012
How can AZ even consider this after they just banned elective "Ethnic Studies" classes in the Tucson Unified School District?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/arizona-ethnic-studies-ban-controversy_n_1243975.html?ref=education&ir=Education

Seems a bit hypocritical to me:
12:09 PM on 01/27/2012
Since I am quoted in this article, to be clear, I am quite skeptical of this new effort to insert the bible into public school classrooms. As I previously stated, there is no doubt the Christian bible has substantially influenced our society in many ways. Learning about that influence in an intellectually honest way is a worthy effort. Indeed, presenting the influences on society, both good and bad, of all religious thought and writings from all religions during all points in history is worthy of study. Ascribing only the best of intentions to this new effort, I would conclude it is a step in the right direction.

I support honest, fair and accurate education about all topics. However, given the past track record of some legislators simply wanting to indoctrinate and impose their will on others, especially school children, and their desire to promote their own particular religious beliefs, I am concerned that this class may amount to nothing more than religious indoctrination under the guise of education. Religious indoctrination is the province of parents acting privately. Government, because of its coercive nature, must always remain neutral in this area. At the end of the day, it is just one more good argument for private schools, which are and ought to be free to teach whatever they see fit, instead of government run schools. My law firm will always support the rights of private and free citizens to engage in whatever peaceful activity they deem appropriate.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
02:26 AM on 01/27/2012
It won't meet the First Amendment test unless scripture from all religions is also taught.
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dbrett480
09:30 PM on 01/26/2012
My high school offered a religious studies class, so I'm not sure how much different this would be.
06:21 PM on 01/26/2012
A comparative religion (and anti-religion) elective, maybe. That could be useful in a well-rounded education. Though it's likely impossible to implement effectively and objectively at the public high school level. The bible has no more purely literary value than any number of other works and doesn't deserve an entire course dedicated to it for "literary value". This is obviously a Trojan horse.
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zippy335
It's only hypocrisy if someone else does it.
02:49 PM on 01/26/2012
Will they force the publisher to put a disclaimer in the front of the Bible like they do with textbooks that teach the theory of evolution?
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Jason N
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02:43 PM on 01/26/2012
I say go ahead and teach it. It's elective so go for it. But you better make sure you offer up every translation and interpretation of every verse. Also make sure you cover contradictions, Biblical mistakes, and the books that didn't make the Nicean cut.
01:30 PM on 01/26/2012
Not a bad idea but don't limit it to "the Bible" or to "Western Civilization". There are a lot of major religious works that have had major impacts on civilizations. I don't really know where to draw the line - population of followers, civilization/social impact, ...?

Teachings of Confucius?
Hindu Teachings?
Teachings of Buddha?
Old Testament?
New Testament (including various textual variants)?
Book of Mormon?
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dil123
evangelicals are not christians
01:20 PM on 01/26/2012
You know, I no longer even own a Bible, as I've read it cover to cover three time over. I do, however own The Lost Books of The Bible and The Forgotten Books of Eden. I like to read everything, even the stuff they banned as it gives me an overview of the whole of religion and how it's changed over the centuries. Heck, I think if I'm going to be religious and have faith I should know at least as much as the normal theology scholar coming out of the Vatican. I know they have copies of all the books, banned or not. I just wish they'd come out and say it.
01:13 PM on 01/26/2012
As a piece of literature, the bible could be very helpful to know. Numerous pieces of literature reference the bible, and it deepens your understanding of the material. I found this out in a college literature class. I had to study the bible on my own time to understand the literary references. It is the most popular book in the world.
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Kald
12:42 PM on 01/26/2012
When the rapture comes... can't God just take the state of Arizona with him and be done with it?
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Kald
01:07 PM on 01/26/2012
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11:51 AM on 01/26/2012
i have absolutely no problem with the idea of using religious texts in the classroom as "literature"... as long as that is not limited to the Bible. religious texts document the history and philosophy of the people who crafted them, and truly deserve to be considered as such, but if this is just another ploy to bring "Bible study" into the classroom at the exclusion of other religions, there is no educational merit in this proposal.
11:46 AM on 01/26/2012
"A lot of it has to do with debunking a lot of ignorance that our districts are trying to force upon the teachers," Proud told The Republic. "There are people out there who hate the Bible and everything about it. That's fine, but don't deprive our children of biblical literature because of your personal feelings."

Oh! So it's about debunking ignorance...

I actually think it's a good idea to teach kids about religion and it's role in human history but that's not what these people want. If it were really about 'debunking ignorance', they’d be proposing a course that taught about ALL the world's major religions and a course that facilitates discussions on their positive and negative effects on societies. I get the distinct impression that the purpose of this particular course is to focus on only what Christian zealots deem as positive aspects of the Bible.

“...don't deprive our children of biblical literature because of your personal feelings."
No one is depriving your children of biblical literature. You have the option to TAKE THEM TO YOUR CHURCH OR TEACH THEM IN YOUR OWN HOME! Also, please don't deprive our children of scientific literature because of your personal feelings.
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FantasticFourFan
Fred Phelps represents all gay marriage opponents
11:34 AM on 01/26/2012
I demand an elective that teaches that truth of the Flying Spaghetti Monster! It's my right under the first amendment!