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Elle France, Nathalie Dolivo, Makes Controversial Comments About 'Black Style'

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/24/2012 9:22 am Updated: 02/ 3/2012 3:57 pm

Elle France

Another day, another journalist puts their foot in their mouth.

The dust has hardly settled from the melee surrounding the Dutch magazine Jackie, after it referred to Rihanna as a "N-word Bitch." One would think that racial slurs and stereotypes would quickly be stricken from our vernacular (at least for a while) following that fiasco.

However, the French version of Elle magazine has found itself right smack in the middle of their own racially charged incident.

Just last week on the publication's website, writer Nathalie Dolivo penned a blog posted entitled "Black Fashion Power." And what initially seemed like Dolivo's attempt to praise the black community for their style prowess, unraveled into a string of controversial, stereotypical and insulting statements.

Dolivo points out Solonge Knowles, Janelle Monae and Nicki Minaj as sartorial stars and suggests that their style along with the rest of the black community have been significantly heightened thanks to Michelle Obama. She writes:

“For the first time, the chic has become a plausible option for a community so far pegged [only] to its streetwear codes.”

So, being chic and sophisticated beyond jeans and a t-shirt has only been an option for black people since 2008 when Michelle Obama became First Lady?

Such sweeping generalizations and misguided comments are what perpetuate the stereotypes we constantly fight to keep at bay.

Dolivo continues to dig herself into a deeper hole when she refers to blacks with style (and presumably money) as the "black-geosie." Oy!

"But if in 2012 the "black-geoisie" has integrated all the white codes [of fashion], they [do so not] literally. [There] is always a classic twist, with a bourgeois ethnic reference (a batik-printed turban/robe, a shell necklace, a 'creole de rappeur') reminiscent [of] the roots. It [has] shifted, [it is] new, desirable, powerful."

Did we read that correctly, "white codes of fashion?" Whether we accessorize with ethnic items or not, it is by no means a deviation from guidelines set by the white community--rather it's simply an interpretation of personal style.

Although the post was written in French and has since been translated to English, hundreds of comments from French readers on the blog's website suggest that nothing has been lost in translation--they are just as shocked by the rhetoric as we are.

It's hard to believe that there aren't any black journalists that could have written on this subject with intelligence, dignity and finesse. The lack of diversity on magazine staffs and in newsrooms has been an ongoing issue. Varying and appropriate perspectives are needed in order to avoid misguided articles such as these.

UPDATE, January 24: Elle France has removed the blog post--but has not issued a statement.
UPDATE, January 28: Elle France's editor-in-chief, Valerie Toranian apologizes for the post, stating: The article was “full of good intentions” but might have been badly expressed.
UPDATE, February 3: Dolivo has apologized for the article, saying it was an attempt to take a 'positive' look at US society and style.


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11:09 AM on 04/03/2013
France's fashion magazines tend to get it wrong on anything concerning representations of non-white ethnicity, particularly Black. Reading this article reminded me of the L'Officiel uproar two years ago over Beyonce wearing Blackface and being dressed in questionably arranged 'African' clothes. Considering there is a sizeable population of particuarly African-derived Blacks in France (some of which I'm more than certain are in the fashion or entertainment industry generally) or even other Blacks living there (since the article seems to be aping mostly American culture) I would be very surprised to hear that Elle France couldn't find at least one to converse with to inform their article.

Also, I agree with some of the commenters. Black people have been dressing up smartly for centuries hitherto [looks in the mirror]. Michelle Obama hasn't done anything remarkable in that regard, so it's a rather lazy correlation for the article writer to make. Moreover, the ghastly stereotype of 'streetwear' clothes [what the Hellfire does that even mean, considering a majority of clothes you buy on the High Street would qualify for that?] make me feel a bit queasy, not to mention question its other lazy attempt to impose a largely small fragment of African American culture on the entire Black community.
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04:42 PM on 03/18/2013
If they hired more black people to write their articles, they wouldn't be in this mess.
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michelleobamaok
Tampa Crookpalooza 2012!
11:19 AM on 02/11/2012
ELEGANT BLACK WOMEN

CORETTA SCOTT KING:
http://s3.socialvixen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/coretta_scott_king_11.jpg

CONDOLEZZA RICE:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=condolezza+rice&view=detail&id=DE4306DA6495618A4F55D8D77593A0B3CB9A23CA&first=0&FORM=IDFRIR

PHYLICIA RASHAD:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=claire+huxtable&view=detail&id=4EE6D153A64ECD938E35A0BC676AE7F7747A2BC6&first=31&FORM=IDFRIR

JAYNE KENNEDY:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jayne+kennedy&view=detail&id=FA9D9A4BA357BACA5D2B8E2629309F643E3E1F1B&first=0&FORM=IDFRIR

BEYONCE: 2000
http://www.celebful.com/celebrity-pictures/beyonce-knowles-photos-2000

IMAN, BEVERLY JOHNSON, LOUISE HOLLAND 1980s
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=YOUNG+IMAN&view=detail&id=FE89FAEE022F72AE922658528944D515BC33092B&first=31&FORM=IDFRIR

DOROTHY DANDRIGE: 1940s/1950s
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+Hollywood+glamour&view=detail&id=4B87AA45C964F20A125476F9C4EF80CBCF807A88&first=61&FORM=IDFRIR

ROBIN GIVENS:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=robin+givens&view=detail&id=789A104F0369EAD75DFF540860D2FA0CC6FE7A54&first=0&FORM=IDFRIR

DIANA ROSS: 1960s/1970s
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52207413@N02/5478087448/

ELLA FITZGERALD: 1940s
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ella+fitzgerald+pictures&view=detail&id=35B1A554D936A5162846F97E987D0D7076962AD9&first=31&FORM=IDFRIR

EARTHA KITT: 1950s
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=EARTHA+KITT&view=detail&id=85E7254F236A6EF5E4AFE26C746C16676A755BD6&first=0&FORM=IDFRIR
SabeWhat
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01:48 AM on 02/03/2012
Mrs Johmson and the Ebony Fashion Fair - a life that exceeded 50 years

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/17/eveningnews/main20033088.shtml
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11:22 AM on 02/11/2012
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
09:04 PM on 01/28/2012
It is amazing when dumb white americans criticize black reaction to this article as political correctness gone wild. If only you have been to college and read sociology and political science, you will notice white American professors criticize Alexis Tocqueville ( Frenchman) "Democrcy in America" which describes how whites lived in the south, on the ground of him not being white. Oh wait...What about GOP legislation (during the Iraq War ) to change the name of French Fries to Freedom Fries because of cricism from Paris? Political correctness?
10:44 PM on 01/27/2012
Wow, unbelievable!!! I have pictures of my grandmother in evening gowns and long gloves.
Sorry, you cannot give The President and First Lady credit for things that African Americans have been doing on since the 20's & 30's. It must be that mean that the French Elle Editor has never seen an African american in a tuxedo or nightgown at formal events. Not only are you people with this biased mindset willing to give the First Couple credit for all that is bad now you have so low that you want to give them credit for all thing that have happened before first Couple's birth. Maybe we should call for a Boycott of all French Products. This would truly be a Fair Trade Agreement which I fully support. This coming from a country where perfume was created to mask the stench from people not taking baths.
04:25 PM on 01/27/2012
Just proves it. We Americans need to lead the race-relations education of the Global community. This is probably part of why President Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize in the first place. If we don't do it, who else will? Plus, we export a lot of stereotypes racial marginalization that we need to take responsibility: http://www.hercircleezine.com/2011/09/20/american-stereotypes-in-film-television-the-global-influence-on-race/

Sad thing is: no apology will come of this from Elle, which shows how little they understand the offense. 'white codes'? Really? Prime example of the white privilege: taking for granted that everybody accepts we're living in a white world and everybody else is just 'the other'.
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12:43 AM on 01/27/2012
Well, some, perhaps many, are going to hate this article and what it asserts. BUT, it is undeniable that Ms. Obama's fashion sense is a regular feature on sites such as this one, and in all fairness, the 'reviews' she gets are quite positive. She has made the 'sleeveless look' particularly 'chic'. I post this in these terms because that's what I have read on here and other venues, personally, I'm not a fashion 'freak'. However, I am capable of making up my own mind as to what looks attractive on a gal, and I think Ms. Obama 'dons the duds' quite well, i.e., she looks good! And I just don't recall any other black gal receiving this kind of press for what she wears. The only thing I'd like to know about Ms. Obama's wardrobe is if any of it is paid for by the taxpayers?
09:54 AM on 01/27/2012
I know you mean well, but referring to any woman as "gal" isn't a good thing, especially in reference to The First Lady. Many people just never noticed Black women and their stylish and high-fashion forms of dress. My Mother, and Grandmother were classy dressers but of course you don't know either of them. There are many notable Black women who know how to dress, and you would know that if you read magazines like Essence, Ebony, Black Enterprise, and the like. Your experience with women of color may only be what you hear or see in the news, and historically speaking, those venues more often show women from the ghetto, rather than positive Black women. If you live in an area that has Black people who come from a lower-socioeconomic background, you'd also have that opinion, but if you live in an area like Washington, Northern Virginia, Atlanta, Georgia, Maryland, etc., where there are many Black women who are doing very well in America, you'd know that The First Lady isn't the only Black woman who has class and style. You seem to be cool, though, and that's a good thing.
07:18 PM on 01/27/2012
I think it so unfortunate that this person(Natalie Dolivo) knows nothing about the African-Americans(Black/Negroes/Colored) in the United States. Putting on style has always been part of the African-American community. Way back when-in slavery times(probably still there), Colored people dressed on Sunday,Weddings and Special occasions even going to town was a time to take off your work clothes and show what you had. Can you imagine going to work in the field wearing your Sunday Best(that's what it was called back in the day). Can you imagine wearing that one particular hat(ladies and gents) that you saved for that special occasion? Open mouth insert foot. Mothers even in the 50's would put clothes in lay-a-way for their children for Christmas, Easter and even any other special holiday. Poor Natalie--where have you lived all your life? Media show you only what sells. Bad dressing is not the norm in the African-American neighborhood. Style is what it is called yesterday, today and tomorrow. Swag is for the men and Sway is for the women.
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09:26 PM on 01/26/2012
Black fashion is an oxymoron.
09:18 PM on 01/26/2012
Ohhh, thank you so much, First Family of America! The Obamas have FINALLY shown us ignorant negroes how to properly dress! They have taken us out of sagging pants, bling, and wearing pink hair rollers on our front porches while sporting MooMoo's, flippy floppies and smoking cigarettes!!! Are you IGNORANT people freaking kidding me?!? Just because none of you know HIGH FASHION designers that are African Americans makes you really think we do not have style or class? You really think that we "copied" Whites and are not knowledgeable enough to come up with our own style concepts? I keep trying NOT to be disappointed by people nowadays, but once that happens someone, somewhere reminds me that ignorance and intolerance is once again constantly present.
10:01 AM on 01/27/2012
This is true, Nia, but keep faith. There are some people who are still trying to learn about us. If they grew up around a lot of poor Black people, that may be all that they know; however, it is up to them to open their eyes and learn not just about themselves, but about other's too. Young Black kids are allowed to dress the way that they do because they don't have proper parental control, and that's something we have to overcome. I can't stand seeing Black people who look like clowns, and I can't stand seeing kids with pants hanging down UNDER their butts. That is so ignorant. I didn't allow my son to wear his pants too long, dragging on the ground; that was the style back in the 90's, or wear his hair like Kid N Play. I paid for the haircut and it had to be appropriate. Both of my sons grew up to be successful and wonderful men.
02:22 AM on 01/28/2012
Ms. Olivia88,
My Mother raised my brother and me the same way! I was also taught that first impressions last always. With that said, what is the first thing that people tend to observe about others: the way they are dressed and how they carry themselves. I now have a son who I allow to choose his clothes, but at the same time my husband and I teach and show him how important it is to prove every misconception that so many others have for young black men today WRONG! Ignorance is NOT bliss, but people should not allow that ignorance to be mean-spirited regarding matters that they are not aware of.
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07:35 PM on 01/26/2012
It is sad that educated, intelligent people can be so ignorant. I think the scariest part is the whole magazine contributed to this ignorance. Someone had to approve the topic, proofread and get information. Why didn't the editors stop the author in her tracks? Why didn't the author do some research? Interview some black people? SMH! Hopefully this ignorace will end someday...
06:45 PM on 01/26/2012
I actually didn't find anything racist about the article. The facts are just mostly wrong. "Janelle Monae and Nicki Manaj has had their styles heighten by Micelle Obama? What? Has the writer looked at these 3 women. I've been following Janelle Monae since before 2008 and I can tell you that statement is wrong. 6 months ago Nicki Manaj wore a fried chicken necklace. In public. To an awards show. Yeah, that sound just like Michelle Obama to me.
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03:31 PM on 01/26/2012
Some have been saying that whites copy black style. Who are the black designers of high end fashion?
06:25 PM on 01/26/2012
High end fashion is not what's being copied.
SabeWhat
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01:44 AM on 02/03/2012
Ms. Schatzi, thought you would enjoy this.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/17/eveningnews/main20033088.shtml
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02:44 PM on 01/26/2012
Very condescending. French Elle is in hot water. The same type of thing is done to Asians now and then in the high fashion world too.
01:46 PM on 01/26/2012
this is my two cents on this scandal, some people just never learn, i mean did she not hear about the Jackie magazine & Rihanna scandal? Obama effect, my hind legs, Dolivo needs to go back to fashion school and study african & american fashion history - if such exists!
http://maziyateke.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/so-black-people-cant-dress/