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Social Security Reform Confounds Retirees Ahead Of Florida Primary 2012

By BRENDAN FARRINGTON   01/25/12 03:40 AM ET   AP

THE VILLAGES, Fla. -- It's an urgent issue seemingly on the minds of many in this retiree mecca, if not the entire state of Florida – how to fix Social Security. And voters' proposed solutions to the tricky problem are just as varied as the stances of the Republican presidential candidates seeking their support.

Jim Minucci, 76, backs Mitt Romney and his idea to gradually raise the age of eligibility for younger workers. "If we continue to spend and take money from Social Security, I think in the long run it's going to be hurting," Minucci said as he walked through a town square here to meet his wife for lunch.

But Bill LeBeau argues that retirees should get more to keep up with inflation and likes Newt Gingrich's call for creating private investment accounts for younger workers. "That would be really good," said LeBeau, 89, as he held a cigar while sitting in a golf cart adorned with an American flag and a "God Bless America" bumper sticker.

On this recent day at least, there seemed to be little discussion here, in Florida's largest retirement community, about former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum's pitch even though it's the most aggressive position of any of the Republican presidential candidates. He wants to lower benefits for wealthier retirees, raise the age to qualify for full benefits and restrict inflation increases in benefits.

"We need to change benefits for everybody now," says Santorum, who campaigned in this area this week. "We can't wait 10 years."

For decades, the idea of tinkering with the retirement safety net was taboo for politicians. That was especially true in Florida, which has the highest proportion of people age 65 or over, its 2.8 million seniors second only to California. But with the skyrocketing costs of entitlement programs boosting the nation's debt, the Republican candidates are advocating for changes they say will ensure future retirees can draw benefits.

Of the GOP front-runners, Romney wants to preserve benefits for people 55 and over but would, for the next generations of retirees, raise the retirement age for full benefits one or two years. The former Massachusetts governor also wants to reduce inflation increases in benefits for wealthier recipients.

Gingrich, the former House speaker, supports giving younger workers the option of diverting Social Security taxes to private retirement accounts. Employers would still pay their share to the federal government, which would protect private account holders in the event of a huge drop in stock markets.

President Barack Obama, who is seeking re-election, hasn't proposed any changes in current or future benefits and has instead called for a bipartisan look at how to strengthen the program. He supported the $250 payment to Social Security recipients in the 2009 federal stimulus package and has called for a second $250 payment to beneficiaries.

The issue is all but certain to be a major one in Florida, both in the GOP primary on Jan. 31 and in the general election. An estimated 31 percent of people who voted in Florida's general election in 2010 were 65 or older, and they voted at a higher rate than any other age group. Seniors made up 33 percent of voters in the 2008 GOP primary, the highest share of any state with a GOP exit poll that year.

In September, a Quinnipiac University poll found that registered Republicans in Florida generally hold a more positive than negative view of Social Security, but they do support some changes to the system to keep it solvent.

A majority (53 percent) would favor increasing the age to qualify for benefits, a proposal opposed by most Democrats and independents, and 6 in 10 support raising the income cap for Social Security taxes in order to increase the amount of money coming into the Social Security system. Majorities oppose reducing benefits for current (84 percent) or future (55 percent) retirees in order to increase funding for the system.

Here in The Villages, retirement is a way of life. So is collecting Social Security and, it seems, the fear of losing it.

"We're afraid that it's going to be cut or that we're going to lose what we put into it," said John Turek, 62, of Council Bluffs, Iowa.

In this community of 75,000 people, golf carts are as common as cars and hundreds of residents gather each night for live music, line dancing and two-for-one drinks in a town square surrounded by a movie theater, church and restaurants.

Voters here tend to be conservative. And, judging from a series of interviews this month with residents, there's a palpable worry among residents about the growing national debt, budget-busting entitlement programs and whether Social Security will be around as a safety net for their children and grandchildren.

"It's going to affect other generations," said Dolly Boudreaux, 70, of Lady Lake. "I'm not against paying a little more in taxes. I don't want to pay a lot more in taxes, but if that will help my children and grandchildren, I could go for that."

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Associated Press Deputy Polling Director Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.

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THE VILLAGES, Fla. -- It's an urgent issue seemingly on the minds of many in this retiree mecca, if not the entire state of Florida – how to fix Social Security. And voters' proposed solutions t...
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g9
conservation ,I vote with a brain not a party
04:13 AM on 01/26/2012
O.K. we are a socialist nation....
The socialist programs like Social Security, Medicare, & the V.A. ..are part of what makes out country great...
these promise's MUST be kept to our people....
.Do not let the 1% steal your socialized future....
......republicans must vote for the best canadate..
.not the one "that cad or can not defeat our President....
vote for the one that can help AMERICANS , not just the 1%
08:56 PM on 01/25/2012
A Florida acquaintance said today that she and her husband always vote Republican. Neither can pick a candidate from the motley offerings. "I guess for the first time in 50 years we're just not going to vote," she said.
Gmasters
Never underestimate the Power of Human Stupidity!
12:18 PM on 01/25/2012
The real cause of the "shortfall" is the corporate war on the Working Class. As more and more people are forced into ever lower paid jobs, of course the amount of money paid into Social Security drops.

End Outsourcing and bring jobs back from China and the problem is Fixed without changing it at all.

Of course, the Republican'ts dont Want the Working Class to prosper.
They support the return to Debt Slavery as a way of life.
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Gestas
Mountain Man
12:03 PM on 01/25/2012
Hmmm, the really tough thing about this is that the smartest guy on the stage is Paul...But, then Republicans don't like smart.
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Summertown
A former traveler of the US now a country wife jus
11:55 AM on 01/25/2012
Look at who they're asking, people who are not very near retirement. People who have already reached the very edge of their lives. Who had all of the benefits before the big crash and were able to protect what they had invested in other areas other than SS.

Who they should be asking are those very near retirement, those that lost a vast amount in their 401k's due to the crash. Those that will be forced to work well past the established SS retirement age because of the crash.

First and foremost is forcing companies that have out sourced to other countries to bring those jobs back to our country. Especially those that have enjoyed tax benefits and paying their execs exorbitant amounts of money by out sourcing. Put Americans back to work at good paying jobs and SS will be just fine.

The erosion of SS's stability is a direct result of out sourcing and not paying a living wage.
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Veganie
Live food, live bodies
11:16 AM on 01/25/2012
Three candidates that turn on each other as they attack Obama the GOP must have discovered them at the bottom of the barrel. No thanks!
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
11:15 AM on 01/25/2012
I can pretty much sum up the entire quandary in two sentences

We can't afford tax cuts to the wealthy, and the continuance of social security at the same time.

Guess who's gonna lose, if the Republicans win?
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legitane
Mankind's biggest sin, Ignorance
11:12 AM on 01/25/2012
Don't have two nickels to rub together..contributed 50 years to Social Security..live off that..
If anyone touches my check so that rich get more tax breaks, may have to do something about it.
10:26 AM on 01/25/2012
Maybe everyone should put up say eight to ten dollars a month from their paycheck to help save the program and keep it going. I don't believe people that have worked hard and paid into it should have to give up what should be their's and if someone honest is put in charge and not let the money be spent for anything but what is intended then we can fix it now while there is still hope.
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Grannysue
Been around for awhile!
10:02 AM on 01/25/2012
You don't have to be confused, the GOP wants to eliminate Social Security and Medicare, the DEMS would rather save it. The GOP have been trying to get rid of Social Security and Medicare for decades, what's there to be confused about.
09:50 AM on 01/25/2012
It seems to me when Santorum see's something that will affect people big time down the road we need to heed the warning. Mitt and Gingrich have their plans but I'm gonna trust Santorum I've been listeing too him during the debate and I don't think we'd be in the mess we are in had those in Washington heeded his warnings.
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CSKAP
Morlock or Eloi?
09:49 AM on 01/25/2012
I do enjoy listening to all the people who are currently collecting Social Security and what they think should happen to younger people.
Raising the age is a very white collar idea.
Most of my friends are laborers, if you are 65 years old, trying to carry a load of shingles up to the roof or run a jack hammer, it’s not quite the same as a lawyer sitting in an office.
Laborers break down over time. It’s sad but true.
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avidtennisfan
VOTE OUT ALL REPUBLICANS
09:27 AM on 01/25/2012
The Villages in Florida probably is the most conservative spot on earth. And even they know republicans are wrong
09:52 AM on 01/25/2012
I know someone who lives in the Villages. At first it was great. Lot's to do, plenty of people your age, parties every night if you wanted that. After a couple of years though it became the funeral of the month club. Like the Villages is one big conveyor belt to the after life. They are starting to miss contact with young people. Fortunately they are wealthy enough to maintain another home, but think long and hard about makeing the Villages your one and only residence.
09:21 AM on 01/25/2012
Raise or remove the cap entirely, that would solve the problem. Since the well off are the ones living longer - raise their retirement age and leave the rest of us alone!
JanC86
Liberal & proud
09:19 AM on 01/25/2012
Our safety net programs are under attack by the Republicant party. Please don't let them near it!