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Youth Unlikely To Pursue Science, Technology, Engineering Jobs, Survey Finds

First Posted: 01/25/2012 8:06 am Updated: 01/25/2012 8:34 am

Though President Barack Obama's State of the Union Address stressed the need for a competitive workforce, especially in more technical fields such as energy, young Americans see massive barriers to entering such professions, according to survey results released Wednesday.

Sixty percent of respondents ages 16 to 25 to the Lemelson-MIT Invention Index, which seeks to gauge innovation aptitude among young adults, named at least one factor that prevented them from pursuing further education or work in science, technology, engineering and math fields (known as STEM). Thirty-four percent said they "don't know much about these fields," while a third said "these fields are too challenging." Twenty-eight percent said they weren't "well-prepared in school to seek out a career or further ... [their] education in these fields."

Meanwhile, 47 percent of respondents noted that a lack of innovation "would hurt the U.S. economy" and 80 percent said they'd be interested in courses that would help them "become more inventive and creative." While 26 percent noted they're motivated to choose careers for stability, 22 percent said they would be inspired by jobs that would give them a chance "to change the world."

"It's reassuring: youth are invested in helping others. They want to be altruistic. It gives us cause to be optimistic," said Joshua Schuler, executive director of the Lemelson-MIT Program, a Massachusetts Institution of Technology-based group that administered the survey for the 16th year. "At the same time, we found there's a real lack of knowledge in STEM education and the things that motivate young people to go into."

The survey, conducted under contract by Kelton Research, asked multiple-choice questions via the Internet of 1,000 people ages 16 to 25, selected to be nationally representative, with a 95 percent confidence level.

The results are especially important as professors and policymakers bemoan the relatively small ranks of American science majors and entrants into STEM jobs. As the New York Times noted, "the president and industry groups have called on colleges to graduate 10,000 more engineers a year and 100,000 new teachers with majors in STEM." Fewer than half of students with plans to major in STEM wind up dropping that focus before graduation.

"There's an opportunity here," Schuler said. "While over 60 percent said there are hurdles to pursue a barrier in stem education, they saw that the fields of healthcare and education are in need of a solution. The young people want to do these things, they want to learn to be more inventive. In large part, it's policy folks and adults playing catch-up."

Last week, the President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness advocated a focus on STEM fields in schools. The paper stressed the need to "start by transforming our education system from preschool through K-12." The last round of the Education Department's Race to the Top competition, in which states competed for education-reform cash, had a STEM education component.

Still, a Government Accountability Office report last week said federal programs to promote STEM education have significant overlap, though they might "not necessarily be ... duplicative." The GAO study found it difficult to assess individual programs and "the overall STEM education effort."

The GAO report is already being used as partisan ammunition by Rep. John Kline (R-Minn.), chairman of the Education and the Workforce Committee, who commissioned the report. "Taxpayers have seen little evidence that these programs are actually working," Kline said in a statement. “Investing in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics is a worthwhile endeavor -- but pumping billions of dollars into programs that may be duplicative or unproductive is just plain foolish."

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08:31 AM on 10/20/2012
I'm doing STEM at a college in Scotland with the hopes of going on to do an Honours degree in Mechanical Engineering. I was looking at moving to America to work once I graduate but going by the chat on here, I think I'll just direct myself elsewhere! If there are no positions available without experience, it's gonna be pretty hard to ever get real experience. Catch 22!
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marlinpage
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05:12 PM on 01/29/2012
When I was younger I wish I had someone who talked to me about a career in technology, but in a "sane" way. Too often those of us who are in technology tend to "over speak" and make it overly complicated. Real Talk and Spending time with people who work in technology may peek some of the interest.
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Lou Kavar
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10:59 AM on 01/29/2012
As a professor in the social sciences, I am well aware that students don't want to be challenged. Often, there's resentment expressed when students, even at the graduate level, are required to use skills in critical thinking. I find that this reflects the values of American culture. Ultimately, most people prefer pursuing programs in business because it's more attractive to ulimately make money from other people's money and requires much less effort than a career in a STEM-related field.

Here's the irony: at most US universities, a student can go from an undergrad program in a STEM field directly to a Ph.D. program. The Ph.D. program is usually tuition-free because the grad student teaches and is part of a research team. The cost of education is generally far less for a student in a STEM field; there's a greater guarentee of good career placement at a comfortable salary.

Bottom line: I think this survey is really great news for all the international students from Asian countries who currently populate Ph.D. programs in STEM fields. They aren't afraid of hard work and will move into international leadership positions in their fields. Good for them! (And the American middle class shrinks a bit more.....)
02:48 AM on 01/29/2012
Plus, in this country there isn't much respect for STEM folks. They are the "nerds" in school. The pocket-protector wearing dorks as adults.

I get a laugh out of the way people think they can get students to be interested in science. Yeah, you will make cool robots, save the world, etc. They start taking some math/phys as freshmen, then get slaughtered. I know plenty who started that way, flunked the intro STEM courses, then majored in psych or sociology, and then went to law school. Yeah, it can be really cool and interesting, but you have to work very hard and long to get to that point, and when you do, no one really understands what you do, unless it is directly related to an obvious product.
02:47 AM on 01/29/2012
Why is anyone surprised by this? These are hard subjects that require dedication and perseverance, even when you are gifted. They require sustained dedication in school and all throughout your career. Sure, starting salaries are decent, but they go up moderately. If you are able to get into research, then you have to always go the extra mile on your own time to stay current as most companies offer very little or no time for continuing education (they used to 50-60 years ago). You also have to be willing to jump from field to field (related of course), which means putting in many extra hours to get up to speed in new fields. It gets tough as you get older and have a family that requires a lot of your time too. You are in constant danger of obsolescence, with young new fresh graduates/postdocs endangering your position. You are always worried about layoffs, obsolescence, etc.

You work in an environment where most decisions are made by people who don't unerstand what exactly you are doing

Your time and effort will produce much better return if you go into medicine. If you just want a bachelor's degree and are smart enough for engineering/math/physics, you might be far better off in the long run if you go into business/finances.
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Yonnas
accept yourself first !!
09:40 AM on 01/28/2012
It is only for elites, its too hot to touch it for the poor, but the funny thing is that most foreign students are taking advantage of the US education system.
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anonymous67
02:48 PM on 01/27/2012
And why would they pursue these careers when there's more job security in robbing banks?

These jobs get moved overseas, and the employees laid off, anytime company CEOs need a bonus or company demographics indicate a "mature" business (i.e. employees close to qualifying for retirement benefits).

Just ask me how I know!
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PathofTotality
Regret serves no purpose
10:15 AM on 01/27/2012
At the age of ~14, my son (who is now 16) chose the STEM path on his own as his brain is wired for this type of education. The public middle school he went to and public high school he currently goes to have been very good and vocal about what these paths are, what it takes and pushing the students to take AP classes to get a head start.

I graduated in 1985 with a ME degree and though it took me ~3 years to finally get a job where I could use my education, along with the difficulties of today, I have no intention to discourage his decision.
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laughingcynic
too far left & you're right
09:43 AM on 01/27/2012
This society no longer values hard work and industriousness and young people know it. Instead they are emulating Wall Street grifters who get all the perks and respect. This is the nation of the big flip - stock flips for grifters, burger flips for the rest.
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Claw2122
not everyone can be me
02:03 AM on 01/27/2012
The GOP is already rewriting the history books, why get into these areas when you know they're just going to force a way for 2+2=5.
01:40 AM on 01/27/2012
As a soon to be graduate with my BSEE (BS in Electrical Engineering) I can tell you the job market is very discouraging. I have literally applied to about 20 different companies all before the second week of my final semester. Most companies are looking for 5+ years of experience. Most jobs are obtained from internships, but for students like me (non-traditional) its very hard to play that game. Hopefully someone will extend a helping hand for all of us who are about to graduate in this economy.
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Daryl Pienta
Not a fan of the far righ...errr. wrong wing
08:24 AM on 01/27/2012
you should of went to school and become a burger flipologist.

Lots of work flipping burgers out there [/sarcasm]

I feel for ya... It was difficult for me to cut my teeth in Electro-mechanical systems 20 years ago, and I know things haven't gotten better.
11:02 AM on 01/27/2012
If you can write well, then try the document writing angle to start with. It's kinda tedious but it will get you in. And get a referral, man. The majority of jobs that open up are never posted. Just keep at it .
12:35 AM on 01/27/2012
Why would anyone go into a career with few job possibilities and low pay?
Interested in research? You look forward to years in the trenches and you may never get any job at all in your field. If you manage to, you will see your business major friends make many times what you do.
Look at MIT, most of the engineers go to Wall street. There are no Bell labs anymore more. Once upon a time you could get a PhD and get a position in an industry research lab and make enough for a family. Not anymore. The government won't spend and t he companies are either closing down research or shipping it overseas.
Good thing for laws like ACTA and SOPA to protect Happy Days reruns, because that is soon all that will be left. (major sarcasm)
05:33 AM on 01/27/2012
Right! get a degree in Liberal Arts.Go to McDonalds.maybe be a Shift Captain someday.
Works for me
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Louis Sipher
Support science and engineering
01:57 PM on 01/28/2012
True. The subjects are difficult to learn and require a lot of sacrifices of one's personal life to master. The lure of changing the world and making a difference is very attractive, but we have a entire political party dedicated to eradicating progress. Wall street is just a temporary game of moving money around. Research funding needs to increase, along with what we pay America's brightest stars. China and India value their Ph.D.s much more than we do. If America does not make products or innovate new products, then we shall go financially extinct.

Why is it that we rarely read about the great progress scientists and engineers are making on the front page? The media and Hollywood can help the cause for science by glorifying this field.
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Core-Sample
Not on the rug, man....
10:28 PM on 01/26/2012
Probably because the job descriptions states: must have 10 years experience
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oldgrendel
tired old computer guy
09:57 PM on 01/26/2012
I would suggest to Rep. Kline that a failure to drastically increase the numbers of indigenous students pursuing science and engineering courses will eventually make us a third-world country. If we cannot invent anything, what is left? We have already seen Asia take over the leadership in computer technologies. At my local university (my alma mater) we have a highly rated electrical engineering department and the vast majority of students are from Asia or elsewhere. What will be left for our children? Used-car sales people? Working at McDonalds or Burger King? We should triple the amount of money to get our young people into STEM programs. I would much rather pay into education than more stupid wars.
09:11 PM on 01/26/2012
The idea that STEM fields are too hard is absolute bunk. It's nothing that a little effort from the student and encouragement from the parents can't remedy. Unfortunately, that's very rare in our culture. My best friend was an absolute clown in high school and finished knowing practically nothing. I remember I was at my hott friend's house hanging out at the pool trying to spit some game in early summer when he came rolling up talking about learning to add fractions so that he could test out of the remedial math class his community college was going to require. He worked his way through CC, got into Auburn and graduated with a degree in EE. He absolutely because serious about school in CC (maybe because his dad made him pay for half) and developed a strong work ethic. The moral of the story is that anyone can do it and that you don't need years of preparation; you just need to apply yourself.
11:23 PM on 01/26/2012
You didn't get to the good part.... Is he rich?
05:24 AM on 01/27/2012
He has a lot in savings, but he is sort of a miser. I have to say that the one down side is that he cares too much about money now, I borrowed a few hundred bucks for grad school apps and agreed to pay him back in April. He is already bugging me about it, and it was difficult to get him to agree to it in the first place. Money changes people, but that's a different topic...