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World Economic Forum: CEOs Question The Future Of Capitalism

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NIKO PRICE and JOHN DANISZEWSKI   01/25/12 02:53 PM ET   AP

DAVOS, Switzerland — German Chancellor Angela Merkel insisted Wednesday that Europe will remain an economic power only if it deepens the integration that has caused it so many problems. Without that, she warned the global elite gathered in a Swiss ski resort, Europe will remain little more than a pleasant vacation destination.

The tone of Merkel's keynote address was not dramatically different from her measured norm, but it was positive enough to feed an emerging feeling among European power brokers that Germany – and hence Europe – is finally becoming convinced that it needs to do whatever it takes to save the euro from collapse.

"The message is that we are ready for more commitment. We are no longer making excuses," Merkel said. If Europe doesn't integrate further, she said, "we will remain an interesting holiday destination for a long time, but we won't be able to produce prosperity for the people in Europe anymore."

Merkel pledged to do what is necessary to protect the euro from collapse, and said greater European unity is needed to spark job creation and growth. However, she poured cold water on calls for Europe to ratchet up the financial firepower of its safety net for failing economies.

Germany is at the center of any rescue plan because it has the deepest pockets in Europe. And Europe is at the center of the global outlook because many fear a collapse of the euro could drag large parts of the world back into recession.

For months, Germany has argued that indebted countries much cut their budgets to the bone, and that their people must become poorer, in exchange for help in reducing their debt loads. But many say that will do little good if that very austerity causes growth to evaporate, making countries unable to pay back the debt that remains.

George Soros, the philanthropist and former financier, called Germany a task master imposing a strict anti-inflationary viewpoint on the rest of the continent. He said weaker eurozone countries have been "relegated to the status of third world countries" having to pay back debts in a foreign currency.

"The problem is that the austerity that Germany wants will push Europe into a deflationary death spiral. ... The economy will contract and tax revenues will fall. So the debt burden ... will actually rise, requiring further budget cuts and setting in motion a vicious cycle."

Merkel's government has been unwilling to back two proposals voiced as potential solutions to the 2-year-old debt crisis: "eurobonds" backed jointly by all eurozone countries, and stimulus that essentially involves getting the European Central Bank to print more money.

In the past month, business leaders and academics say they have become increasingly confident that Germany – once its back is against the wall – will go along with measures to boost growth, and possibly save Europe from deeper crisis.

"We are starting to see signs of a shift in sentiment towards Europe," said Baudouin Prot, CEO of French bank BNP Paribas.

He said the catalyst for the newfound optimism was a round of reasonably priced long-term loans to European banks by the European Central Bank, which caused spiking interest rates for European bonds – a key indicator of confidence in their ability to pay back the money – to drop.

"We are on the right track, but we need to keep moving forward. We need each country to implement financial discipline," Prot said. "But it's not just about debt reduction. Europe also needs a growth strategy, a series of initiatives to open up the market, support innovation and competitiveness."

He said all 17 countries that use the euro must improve their finances, and that Europe as a whole needs to act better as a whole. He also cautioned against overregulation of banks.

Soros had a gloomier outlook but said he too sees Germany coming around to the idea that austerity is not enough, and that too much of it will just end up making matters worse.

"The argument is really very strong and I believe that it has to eventually sink in," he said.

Soros and others stressed that tough decisions need to be taken and that Europe is far from out of the water. What is changing is that leaders increasingly believe that Europe – its back against the wall – is finally acting. In December, the leaders of the 17 countries that use the euro agreed they need new rules that they're now working out, calming markets.

Gerard Lyons, global chief economist at Standard Chartered, said rescue efforts have been misguided.

"Europe is focusing on the wrong problem," he said. "Clearly debt has to be brought down. But Europe suffers from a lack of growth, not a high level of debt. ... Basically you need to address a debt problem by focusing on growth."

Oxford University professor Timothy Garton Ash said there's still a good chance Greece will default on its debt. What matters, he said, is how Europe responds: If it builds an effective firewall to prevent the crisis from spreading to other countries, that would go a long way to calming the fears that have caused so much turmoil.

"I do think there really is a shift in sentiment and perceptions," Garton Ash said. "The market sees that Germany is really willing to do what it takes."

The fear that gripped markets in the second half of 2011 was largely due to concerns that Italy – the eurozone's third economy – would default on its debt, and that it would be too big for Europe to bail out. A default by Italy would send massive shock waves round the global economy as well as potentially wiping out large chunks of Europe's banking system.

Amid the discussion of Europe's debt woes came a sense that Western-style capitalism, as practiced for decades, is moving into a new phase. A four-year economic crisis is putting pressure on politicians to build a new model.

David Rubenstein, managing director of asset management firm Carlyle Group, said leaders must work fast to overcome the crisis or see other models of capitalism, such as the form practiced in China, win the day.

"We've got to work through these problems. If we don't do that in three or four years ... the game will be over for the type of capitalism that many of us have lived through and thought was the best type," he said.

China has reaped the rewards of its transition to a more market economy and is now the world's second-largest economy. Unlike the capitalist systems in the U.S. and Europe, China's market transformation has been heavily guided by a state apparatus that continues to balk at widespread democratic reforms. Latin America, too, has seen success in the development of "state capitalism" in certain industries.

"You combine elements of private enterprise with public responsibility," said Colombia's mining and energy minister, Mauricio Cardenas.

At the economic forum, there were numerous references to the need to innovate, the need to consult with employees and the realization that power in the world is shifting from the west to the east. While the traditional industrial economies of the United States and Europe have limped through the last few years, often from one crisis to another, many economies in Asia and Latin America have been booming.

Outside the conference center, activists are camped in igloos to protest years of crisis in which hundreds of millions have lost their jobs even as top executives still reap huge pay packets. On Wednesday they sent aloft big red weather balloons carrying a protest banner reading "Hey WEF, Where are the other 6.9999 billion leaders?"

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Pan Pylas and Edith M. Lederer contributed to this report.

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04:34 AM on 01/28/2012
Why does global business today look to me to be more fascistic than capitalistic?
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
05:19 PM on 01/27/2012
Capitalism has run its course.
It required continual expansion, and that's failing.
It requires productive labor, but it's getting only consumers, not producers in the US.
It is falling apart because of its own internal contradictions as an economic system.
09:33 PM on 01/28/2012
Yep, socialism is a much better system. Look at how well it's worked in.......emmm, emmmm, ahhhh, emmmm.
The equal sharing of misery. Bottom up poverty is a much better alternative to trickle down prosperity!!!!!
09:39 AM on 01/27/2012
Corporations have raped the Capitalist system. They have no morals only profit motives.
May you all suffer the fate that you have borne to others!
07:51 PM on 01/26/2012
Capitalism is not the problem...complaining about it is like complaining about the Free Market...like spitting into the wind.

Let us on the left be educated on this issue so we can identify the problem and then the solutions.

The Invisible Hand of economics...it's an observed pattern, not a philosophy or ideology. Systems that have tried to ignore the nature of human commerce such as medieval attempts to mandate price or that of the USSR of course fail.

Socialism, such as we have now, harnesses the free market and private ownership by a progressive taxation system that keeps the "GAME" floating along...no one gaining too much power or wealth, no one left to utter ruin...and when this gets off kilter as it is today, then we fix it with major reforms of the tax and welfare systems, regulatory systems...or we let it degrade until violent revolts burn it to the ground.
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
05:20 PM on 01/27/2012
Ain't no such animal as a 'free market'.
06:15 PM on 01/27/2012
You got that right!
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outoutdamnspot
08:18 PM on 01/28/2012
agreed except for "free market". The market is free to the insiders who can skim it and have until it is broken. Everyone else will pay.
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JeanFrancois Lord
09:34 AM on 01/26/2012
Pure capitalism is the game of the immortals, there can only be one.
08:58 AM on 01/26/2012
My suggestion how to solve the class war and problems with capitalism is create a new tax, called Harmony Tax which will tax all income for individuals, over 1 million dollars a year by 50% on next millions.These funds will go to special account, supervised by people commitee, not by the congress, and from these funds will be created state owned companies. Building companies where will all unemployed carpenters, masons, welders, find the jobs created by state contracts awarded preferently to these state owned companies. These contracts will be given on government jobs, now in the hands of congressmen. All state owned companies will be crated to solve unemployment and used for goverment sponsored works, like New Deal by Rosewelt.
08:17 AM on 01/26/2012
we hate communism and it was proved it doesnt work, but here in Amerika the ellite should voluntary agreed to higher tax on their income to prove they the ellite, are the patriots and will help to unite all segments of society to preserve harmony and further economic development. Please, realise that common folks have brain too.
07:59 PM on 01/26/2012
And if they don't volunteer...and they're not, let me assure you, you only need to see the assault on Net to know that, then what?

Do you really think someone will give up power or wealth without the fear of personal harm motivating the giving?
08:38 PM on 01/26/2012
I hate to say that but Marx called it Dictatur of proletariat and if Ellite refuse cooperate this should be the task for new president the Redistribution of wealth and forced taxation in favor of voters majority.
08:42 PM on 01/26/2012
The second more drastic solution is forced nationalisation of banks and private ownership of factories which will became property of majority. It already happened in past with 30 million dead in Russia.
08:00 PM on 01/26/2012
Newt...not Net!
08:09 AM on 01/26/2012
How is possible that congress, the individuals, got richer in last year by 15% everage. Almost all congressmen hold the stocks of big corporations. To be member of congress give them acces to inside informations about the working plebs has no idea. And you call this democracy and representants of people? Inside trading should be punished by mandatory jail.
07:56 AM on 01/26/2012
Capitalism in present form has no future in can only lead to global confrontation of working class with corporations. Sorry to say Karl Marx was rigt.
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Vapula
Failure is not an option
01:22 AM on 01/26/2012
In America 'capitalism' is treated with reverence. It is treated with reverence when justifying fraud, theft, dishonesty of all sorts, monopolies (which are described as part of the 'free market') and greed. Any regulations which may tackle theft, fraud etc. are described as anti-capitalistic or 'socialist' or some other derogatory term. So we end with a person being anti capitalist if he disagrees with people being able to steal from him and his family. He is also UN-American if he doesn't agree with the Wall Street crooks hijacking the Government to do their bidding and not the American people's bidding. In fact not allowing the Wall Street crooks and greedy bankers to do whatever they like, when ever they like brands a person as a socialist traitor. And the Republicans seem to have revived MacCarthy. Soon the committee for Un-American conduct will be revived just as soon as the neo-Nazi Gingrich becomes President.
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The Mighty Cynic
09:31 PM on 01/25/2012
Ideas that are -isms all come from a Zionist/Talmudist/Globlist source. Communism. Marxism. The only one that is an outlier, is Free Masonry.

Capitalism is a usurer's paradise. KICK THE MONEY CHANGERS FROM OUR TEMPLE!
11:47 PM on 01/25/2012
And what is your solution for the free flow of large scale goods and services?

What is your economic answer?
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Vapula
Failure is not an option
01:24 AM on 01/26/2012
You shouldn't speak on topics you have no knowledge, but only pure prejudice, of.
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Donald J Sullivan
Monetary Reform Now
07:00 PM on 01/25/2012
I think a big problem Americans do not understand is that we are not a true Capitalistic nation. We are a governed capitalist country. That means it only works with Govt. This is why the Right is a bunch of liars because government and regulations make( also ensuring their wealth) the system work they couldn't if they wanted to remove Govt., not without turning us into a more warped version of capitalism ( which just happened and is happening) Why do you think you hear the words Police State because that would be the answer to all companies problems. We are China capitalists on the top and communists on the bottom ( or will be soon)!
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
08:11 PM on 01/25/2012
The crony capitalists will Self Regulate about the same time that the Rapists and Pedophiles start Self Regulation.....IN other words NEVER....
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shewolf2002
EDUCATION is a national security issue.
11:01 PM on 01/25/2012
Ain't THAT the truth!
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06:48 PM on 01/26/2012
No one is proposing to "remove government".
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
05:26 PM on 01/27/2012
love, not hp ???
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
06:15 PM on 01/25/2012
not spending money you dont have makes you richer, not poorer.
06:09 PM on 01/25/2012
SOONER OR LATER
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Not a UFO or Jesus Christ, nor some miracle can save
a planet full of people who keep multiplying and
Sooner or later .... resources are not adequate for all
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The Piper's sound would heard soon
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
06:23 PM on 01/25/2012
So true! About 90% of this world's problems would simply go away if we stopped our uncontrolled breeding, breeding and breeding some more. But to do that, we need to get rid of the Roman Catholic Church and other religions who encourage people to breed like roaches for their own aggrandizement.
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Jay from Ottawa
sovereignty sale, 1.3T OBO
09:25 AM on 01/26/2012
If people don't smarten up, then all we're doing is garanteeing that future generations will have to live in a society where the number if children you have have is strickly regulated and offenses heavily punishable. I don't want my grandchildren to live under those types of rules, but if we don't smarten up, the world will have no other choice.
06:05 PM on 01/25/2012
Capitalism :
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Make money regardless of anything, logical or illogical
safe or unsafe, good or not so good, real or pipe smoke,
ethical or not ...
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When Capitalism does collapse .... it's system is set only to become
Fascist .... all ingredients are there, from weapons to disparity, from hatred
to revenge, from division of classes to division of races
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Jobs and money is the cement holding a Capitalist place
take it away... and you take away a way of living
umbearable to give up by some people
--- Chaos is next
06:17 PM on 01/25/2012
No WAR is next.
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Donald J Sullivan
Monetary Reform Now
07:03 PM on 01/25/2012
With conventional war a thing of the past I think whats coming is going to be far worse!
11:57 PM on 01/25/2012
My solution is a well-regulated capitalistic system.

We currently have a weakly regulated crony capitalistic system.

What is your solution?