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Obama And GOP Candidates Challenge Each Other Over Taxes, Economy

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Posted: 01/26/2012 8:38 am

By David Espo, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — On a day that combined two campaigns into one, President Barack Obama on Wednesday challenged Republicans to raise taxes on the rich as GOP rivals Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich swiped at him on the economy and criticized each other over immigration.

With a week to go before the Jan. 31 Florida Republican presidential primary, the polls suggested a tight race, although Romney and his allies seized a staggering advantage in the television ad wars. They have reported spending $14 million combined on commercials, many of them critical of Gingrich, and a total at least seven times bigger that the investment made by the former House speaker and an organization supporting him.

Obama's political timeline was a different one, Election Day on Nov. 6. In a campaign-style appearance in Iowa, he demanded Congress approve a tax increase for anyone like Romney whose income exceeds $1 million a year.

"If you make more than a million dollars a year, you should pay a tax rate of at least 30 percent. If, on the other hand, you make less than $250,000, which includes 98 percent of you, your taxes shouldn't go up," he said after touring a manufacturing plant in Cedar Rapids and in a state that he won in 2008 that was expected to be a battleground in the fall.

"This is not class warfare," he said. "That's common sense."

As Obama surely knew, it was an offer Gingrich, Romney and the anti-tax Republicans in Congress are likely to find easy to refuse.

Referring to Obama's call in the speech for Congress to end tax breaks that encourage companies to ship jobs overseas, Romney said he didn't know of any.

Instead, he said the president presides over "the most anti-business, anti-investment, anti-job creator administration I've ever seen, and so, what I'll do – I'll get America to work again. I spent 25 years in business."

Gingrich was far harsher at an appearance in Miami.

"If he actually meant what he said it would be a disaster of the first order," Gingrich said of the president's call for higher taxes on millionaires.

The former House speaker said the president's proposal would double the capital gains tax and "lead to a dramatic decline in the stock market, which would affect every pension fund in the United States."

"It would affect every person who has a 401(k). It would attack the creation of jobs and drive capital outside of the United States. It would force people to invest overseas. It would be the most anti-jobs single step he could take," he said.

Under current law, investment income is taxed as the rate of 15 percent, a fact that has come to the fore of the campaign in recent days with the release of Romney's income tax return.

Wages, by contrast, are taxed at rates that can exceed 30 percent.

Electability is the top concern for GOP primary voters, according to polls taken in the early primary and caucus states, so both Republicans were eager to paint a contrast with the president.

But Romney and Gingrich also focused on the Florida primary now seven days distant.

Romney has long led in the state's polls, but Gingrich's upset victory last Saturday in the first-in-the-South primary in South Carolina revitalized his candidacy and raised questions about the former Massachusetts governor's staying power.

Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum is also on the ballot, as is Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

But Santorum has been sinking in the polls as Gingrich rises, and Paul has indicated he intends to bypass the state to concentrate on caucuses to be held elsewhere.

That gives Florida the feel of a two-man race, and Romney and Gingrich are treating it that way. The two men sparred heatedly Monday night in a debate that virtually relegated Santorum and Paul to supporting roles.

A second debate is set for Thursday in Jacksonville. And if their separate appearances during the day on the Spanish-language television network Univision is a guide, it will be as feisty as the first.

Gingrich referred acidly to Romney describing a policy of "self-deportation" as a way of having undocumented immigrants leave the country without a massive roundup.

"You have to live in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatically $20 million income for no work to have some fantasy this far from reality," he said, referring to some of the details disclosed this week when the former Massachusetts governor released his tax returns.

"For Romney to believe that somebody's grandmother is going to be so cut off that she is going to self-deport, I mean, this is an Obama-level fantasy."

Romney's campaign swiftly produced evidence that aides to Gingrich had used the term "self-deport" approvingly, and the former governor attacked.

"I recognize that it's very tempting to come out to an audience like this and pander to the audience," Romney said. "I think that was a mistake on his (Gingrich's) part."

Gingrich also ran into trouble over a radio ad his campaign was airing that called Romney "anti-immigrant." Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., who is neutral in the presidential race, criticized the commercial, and Romney said the term "anti-immigrant" was an epithet. The campaign took the ad off the air.

Gingrich made a stop in Cocoa, center of the state's now-withered space industry, and he cheered his audience by envisioning construction of the first permanent base on the moon. He also promised a "robust industry" of "commercial near-earth activities" to include science, tourism and manufacturing.

He said he hopes to stimulate investment by having the government offer prizes to private companies, but he did not elaborate. For Obama, Iowa was the first of five stops in three days following a State of the Union speech in which he stressed the theme of income equality that is expected to be one of the cornerstones of his re-election campaign. He also wove in proposals to help restore the U.S. manufacturing base that has withered in the course of the recession that began in 2008.

"Our economy is getting stronger, and we've come too far to turn back now," he told workers and guests at a conveyor manufacturing plant in Cedar Rapids. Speaking of Republicans, he said, "Their philosophy is simple: We're better off when everyone is left to fend for themselves and play by their own rules."

It's a message that may be received differently depending on the local economy.

Iowa's unemployment was most recently measured at 5.6 percent, well below the national average. In Arizona, which has its primary in four weeks, joblessness is 8.7 percent, while Nevada's at 12.6, the highest in the country. Its caucuses are Feb. 4.

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Associated Press writers Brian Bakst, Kasie Hunt and Steve Peoples in Florida contributed to this report.

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Marcospinelli 10:14 AM on 01/26/2012
Chris Hedges lays it out:

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Turn off your televisions. Ignore the Newt-Mitt-Rick-Barack reality show. It is as relevant to your life as the gossip on “Jersey Shore.” The real debate, the debate raised by the Occupy movement about inequality, corporate  Read More...
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rrzeus26
Feels good to be RIGHT!!!
08:54 PM on 01/26/2012
Raise taxes on the rich and lower it for everyone else. What a concept. What BS also. He needs an enama.
07:29 PM on 01/26/2012
Jefferson, Hoover, Eisenhowe, Nixon, Ford and Reagan. All Republican presidents that either raised taxes on the 1% or restricted loopholes that they used. They understood the unfairness of the tax code and called for the wealthy to do their share. The Republican party, as it stands today, is unrecognizable. They are all bought and paid for by the 1%.
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06:02 PM on 01/26/2012
Ooh, I'm an investor... Would I stop investing if my personal income from long term capital gains were taxed the same way as my personal income from wages was? Are you kidding me? Of course not. I might shift a little more of the portfolio over to tax free bonds; but, I'm not pulling out of the market. And, I don't see that I'd get any benefit from shifting my investments from the US to international markets. Newt has no idea what he is talking about, and Romney hasn't provided any real idea of what he would do.
05:36 PM on 01/26/2012
SIMPLE IF YOU DON,T WANT TO PAY A HIGHER TAX THAN SHOW THE JOBS THAT YOU CREATE IF YOU OUTSOURCE OUT OF USA THAN YOU PAY! YOUR NOT HELPING AMERICANS JUST YOURSELF. WHATTA YA WANNA DO!
05:24 PM on 01/26/2012
For all you GOTP party members. The next time you shampoo your hair you may want to go a bit deeper.
05:13 PM on 01/26/2012
36 obama adminsitration workers owe over $800,000 in back taxes-----start there with your fair share bs mr president
04:58 PM on 01/26/2012
If a CEO of a major business stated that his company was full of wasteful spending, corruption and that he has no idea where the money is spent or what its spent on decides the raise the price of the goods that his company is selling to eliminate the debt his company was in, what would happen to that CEO and his company.
04:55 PM on 01/26/2012
WHO INCREASED THE DEBT?


President Ronal Reagan 189%

President George Bush 55%

President Clinton 37%

President George Bush Jr. 115%

President Barack Obama 16%


Source: Treasury Department
04:53 PM on 01/26/2012
Someone please explain how my 401K will be effected by the capital gains rate?
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06:04 PM on 01/26/2012
Newt was claiming that there would be a massive sell off in the stock market - driving down the value of your stock related holdings in 401ks and IRAs.
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xiaogermaine8
04:41 PM on 01/26/2012
Is he brain dead he can not even read the same speach he gave last time without a prompter.
04:41 PM on 01/26/2012
rasing taxes on the rich is a great liberal talking point but it's a drop in the bucket. until you all decide we need to live within our means, it's all pointless
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Guy Fratianni
my micro has gone bio
04:46 PM on 01/26/2012
With crumbling infrastructure and the wealthy who benefit from it moving their products for sale or distribution I paid about 25 percent in tax's last year while Romney 15. You're pointless.
04:51 PM on 01/26/2012
The usual liberal name calling won't help either. He is right, you can tax the rich at 100% and it will not touch our deficit. Our wonderful rep and dem congressmen and women have gotten all of america in this position and it will take ALL of America to get us out. Tax code will need to be thrown out and something close to Boyles Erskin plan will need to be put in place. If President and congress really cared about America they would adopt such a plan. They only care about their own bottom lines however.
04:52 PM on 01/26/2012
If they let my last comment through I meant Boyles - Simpson plan
04:55 PM on 01/26/2012
If we had the same tax rate that we had in 1993, over half the deficit would not exist!
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xiaogermaine8
04:39 PM on 01/26/2012
He is Challanged in the brain.
04:32 PM on 01/26/2012
Gingrich lies! It will not effect 401Ks. In a 401K, you are not taxed on the money you put in. You can trade as often and in any thing the administrator allows. You are taxed when you take the money out. It does not matter if you made money lost money, you are taxed at ordinary income when the money comes out! 15% cap gains does not apply!

I would suspect the same for a pension, but don't know for sure.

Lastly, this article does not talk at all about "carried interest." That the idea that you can get the 15% cap gains on capital you don't even own! Which makes no sense what so ever!

Rommey and all the Hedge Fund guys pay 15% capital gains on other people profits, that they charge as a fee!
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06:06 PM on 01/26/2012
The value of 401ks and IRAs will be affected if there is a massive sell off that drives the markets down.
06:49 PM on 01/26/2012
1. I don't think that's the case. He either does not know that the cap. gains does not apply to 401K, or knew his audience would not know.

2. Bill Clinton raised the cap gains from 20% to 28% in 1993 and the market did just fine.

So, you are wrong on both counts!
04:03 PM on 01/26/2012
you certainly misread my comments, I did not say in any way that "Obama was just OK at building jobs" that would be an out right lie. He has only gained fed govt. employees way too many of them these jobs take tax $ to pay for them they dont improve the deficit at all. The only way we will come out of this depression is to remove Obama, restart an ambitious natural energy program that utilizes our own oil, gas, etc., stop the Obama health care program that within 2 years will require well over $200.00 a month for seniors on medicare and will put these peoples lives under the gun of a bureaucy who are not medically trained. The tax payer cost of this program is what more than 90% of small business people says is a big part of their not growing their companies and not hiring, the rest of the small business problem is the EPA and way to many regulations in the majority of cases are implemented by people who have no idea what they will create. Eliminate Obama, his czars, his health care plan, his emphasis on taxing success, his meddling (NLRB) in private business, his desire to build up Brazil at our expense..and so on an so on, I could go on forever.
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xiaogermaine8
04:40 PM on 01/26/2012
He does not even know how to buy a foreclosure without help. He is mentally Challanged and the Great Dope Hope. I agree with you.
gconners
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
04:53 PM on 01/26/2012
Please stop just making stuff up.

"...more than 90% of small business people says is a big part of their not growing their companies and not hiring, the rest of the small business problem is the EPA and way to many regulation­s..."

Last year, the Small Business Association, ITSELF, came out as a group and said the problem is NOT either taxation NOR regulation, but a lack of demand due to too many customers/consumers having too little disposable income. And those interactions are 70% of our economy. If they can't grow, the country can't grow.

Yeah, I'm sure you "could go on forever" but at least try to make sense and tell the truth!
05:00 PM on 01/26/2012
EPA? I think most small business have to deal with local rules and state laws which drive them crazy. The federal government is the least of a small business problems!

Get real!
03:49 PM on 01/26/2012
based on the editing (exclusions) from this posting, it's obvious which side the editor falls on ... am I right? ... do you have the ability to discuss intellectually?