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Eric Schmidt At Davos Praises Globalization, Dismisses Jobs Crisis

First Posted: 01/27/2012 3:16 pm Updated: 01/27/2012 11:27 pm

DAVOS, Switzerland -- Eric Schmidt, the executive chairman of Google, is clearly tired of modern-day Luddites complaining about the job-destroying forces of technology.

"I assume that everybody here agrees that globalization is wonderful," he said here Friday, speaking during an afternoon panel at the World Economic Forum -- certainly among the more receptive audiences on the planet for such pronouncements. He was sitting next to Tom Friedman, The New York Times columnist whose best-selling books about globalization often seem to outnumber in-flight magazines in the first-class cabins of intercontinental jets.

The subject they were discussing was both controversial and crucial: Why has the success of innovative giants such as Google and Apple failed to directly translate into significant numbers of jobs? How do we generate large numbers of high-quality paychecks in such times?

Schmidt pushed back against the premise, arguing that while Google itself employs about 30,000 people around the globe -- a fraction of the count at manufacturing giants such as Caterpillar and Boeing -- the company has indirectly generated millions of additional jobs and trillions of dollars in wealth by offering up a valuable platform for commerce.

Its online services -- from maps to search to cloud-based word processing and email -- have made people and businesses vastly more efficient just as in another age advances such as plows and cotton gins enabled farmers to expand their usable acreage.

Yes, he acknowledged, many nations on Earth -- not least the United States -- are mired in a crisis of joblessness. Technological advances such as automation on the factory floor have rendered millions of jobs obsolete, but they have also created millions of fresh ventures, while freeing workers toiling in antiquated industries to forge careers in higher-value pursuits. This is textbook creative destruction, the force celebrated by Joseph Schumpeter, the Austrian economist who is the intellectual touchstone for Silicon Valley.

What has been happening since the advent of the Internet "is no different from the loom when it was invented, and I don't think any one of us would want to eliminate the loom," Schmidt said. "This is how the world gets better. This is how the GDP grows. This is how we leave a better world for our children."

No one ought to blame Google, or any tech company, for job destruction in a moral sense. Automation is as old as capitalism, the natural outgrowth of the human impulse to extract greater harvest with less effort while saving the cost of paying other people to do what one cannot or does not care to do oneself.

Labor sidelined by technology is a story not confined to the wealthy world. For Americans, a discussion of lost textile jobs conjures thoughts of laid-off mill workers in the Carolinas, with production shipped to factories in China. But China has lost more jobs in the sector than any nation on Earth -- the direct result of automation.

All of that said, Schmidt too blithely dismissed a problem with no easy answers, one at the center of the populist ferment now seething from Cairo to Columbus. In the United States, he suggested, unemployment is predominantly the result of inadequate skills among the workforce, a problem that could be addressed with better education.

"Governments have to do something that's hard," he said. "They have to go back and invest in human capital. There are plenty of companies in the U.S. and other countries I've visited that are very short of highly skilled workers."

For a clearly brilliant man who likes to advertise his passion for data, Schmidt's explanation sounded both lame and self-serving.

Yes, there are always companies in any industry that will at any given time have difficulty finding skilled people, a factor now enhanced in the United States by the housing disaster: Laid-off pipe fitters in Michigan cannot move to available jobs in Texas if they cannot sell their homes. Yes, American education has fallen behind the need for certain skills. Greater access to degree programs at the community college level and higher would surely help. But the notion that a skills shortage explains away high unemployment in the aggregate is awfully hard to square with the numbers.

As of December, more than 13 million Americans were officially out of work, according to the Labor Department. The previous month -- the time of last available data -- the government counted 3.2 million job openings. It seems fair to assume that even if one could sweep people out of unemployment offices en masse and send them straight to Harvard, many of these people would remain out of work. (Or, more likely, other people who didn't get sent to Harvard would be out of work, soon to be replaced by the lucky people dispatched to Cambridge, Mass.)

For an individual, gaining education as an approach to increasing work opportunities is a no-brainer. But for society as a whole, the employment shortage cannot be eliminated in this fashion because of a feature that Schmidt seemed uninterested in addressing: The benefits of technological progress and automation are being spread unevenly, exacerbating the forces of inequality that have left millions of formerly hard-working people unable to pay their bills.

Friedman, no Luddite himself, tried to take the conversation there. A half century ago, he noted, the largest employer in Baltimore was Bethlehem Steel, where a high school graduate could work and earn enough to pay for an average house and support an average family. Today, he said, the city's largest employer is Johns Hopkins University.

"They do not let you cut the grass at Johns Hopkins without a B.A.," Friedman said. He acknowledged that the history of technology is full of dislocation and the eventual formation of new ventures that create vast numbers of jobs. "But it feels like this time is different," he said.

It does, which brings me to the part of Schmidt's prescription that sounded self-serving. If the only impediment to full employment is education, then no one gathered here, among the 1 percent of the 1 percent, need take responsibility for the fundamental problem of our age: how to enable people who want to work for a living to do just that.

One defining characteristic of the Internet boom is the degree to which it has concentrated the wealth in a limited number of hands. As is often noted, income inequality in the United States has expanded to levels not seen since the 1920s. Overall average taxation as a share of national economic output is lower than at any time since 1950.

Schmidt expressed few misgiving about this state of affairs, suggesting in a private conversation after the panel that he subscribes to the school of trickle-down economics, whereby which lower taxation supposedly yields greater wealth and fresh innovation. The market then spreads it around.

The wealth part has worked out smashingly. Google is a magnificent company -- not only as a source of enrichment, but as necessary testament to the productive capacities of the free enterprise system, and the American version in particular. Yet too few Americans have gained a slice of the spoils, leaving too few able to consume enough to propel the economy. That limits demand for all sorts of workers -- from parking-lot attendants and short-order cooks to tax accountants and architects.

Fixing that will require something that the fabulously wealthy executives now here wandering the snow and cocktail circuit are too prone to oppose: making the tax code more progressive, thus enabling more people to enjoy the wealth derived from innovation.

In short, the skills mismatch argument is really a red herring for the lack of fair distribution in the tax code. (Though this is a widely subscribed idea: Google "unemployment" and "skills mismatch" and 803,000 results arrive in less than half a second!)

Creative destruction is indeed an elemental part of free enterprise. Massive unemployment need not be.

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01:44 AM on 02/07/2012
Mr.Schmidt believes in the magic of free market Gods I suppose. Then according to the market Gods, when supply is below demand, wages should be rising somewhere, no? But according to Dean Baker, Paul Krugman etc, there is no sector where wages are rising in the US.
06:24 PM on 02/01/2012
There are over a billion people living on less than $2 a day. There will always be someone somewhere willing to work for less to survive.

The world is producing more people than jobs.... that is unsustainable and will lead to more poverty, hunger and despair.
05:45 AM on 02/01/2012
Mr. Shit doesn't get it
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LeftHandUTurn
How long have I been out?
10:52 PM on 01/31/2012
Well I guess it's easy to dismiss a jobs crisis if you've got a job, particularly a well paying one, huh Mr. Schmidt?
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:40 AM on 01/31/2012
NATIONAL WEALTH is made, created, and/or acquired mainly (maybe only) when the members of a family (or the citizen businessmen of a nation, city-state, island, tribe, etc.) perform one or more of the following tasks:

1. plant, grow and/or harvest something of commercial value from the earth;

2. extract something of commercial value from the earth;

3. manufacture something of commercial value that is consumable

4. construct a building that is permanently useful for rental income;

5. provide professional services (medical, legal, dental, engineering, architecture, land surveying, technology, accounting, etc.);

6. collect payment for patent and copyright uses;

and then trade, sell, lease or rent these items and/or services to parties outside of their family, in return for a net transfer of gold, currency or commodities from other parties outside of their family into their own family.

Non-government JOBS are ONLY created by these businesses and corporations in order to CREATE WEALTH for those same businesses and corporations!
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gerald4
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10:43 AM on 01/31/2012
The members of that family (tribe, state, nation) can then reflect their real NATIONAL WEALTH and financial security with their net positive accumulation of privately owned grain, gold, cattle, jewels, land, buildings, hotels, casinos, factories, commodities and/or other marketable products that are then available to be used for economic security for reserve use in times of emergency and/or also to raise the standard of living for the members of that family and also accumulate redeemable products and/or commodities plus title to locally in-country located assets as redeemable value for any printed currency that they might care to issue and/or any Treasury Bonds that they might care to print and sell.

Each nation must generate new WEALTH and new assets in order to create the financial capability to be able to take care of those within that nation that cannot take care of themselves, and this capability can only be available if that nation has NATIONAL WEALTH created by successful businesses available to be CONFISCATED in the form of taxation in order to create funds to pay for their government activities.

There are limits to the amount of NATIONAL WEALTH that can be FORCIBLY TAKEN from the wealth creators in the form of taxes and paid to the governments and/or borrowed from foreigners to pay for various government activities and expenses, no matter how much these government expenses are deemed as being "necessary" (usually by the elite government bureaucrats).
02:34 AM on 01/31/2012
Until you start to say openly and loudly that "free trade must end" then nothing will. Until we end H-1b work visas and all work visas...nothing will improve. People like Schmidt will keep laughing at you for being fools. These CEOs laugh when they hear working people supporting globalization.

If you want to wipe that smile off his face then start speaking out against trade with communist China. That is a good starting point.
edward60
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11:12 PM on 01/30/2012
Google will come and go just like other internet services, the minute someone does it better google is history. Who cares what he thinks
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olitenup
08:38 PM on 01/30/2012
He has been spending too much time inside the DC beltway.
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gerald4
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05:42 PM on 01/30/2012
We need for US and European citizens work and produce (most/more of) the things that we consume plus excess items that we could sell to foreign nations because that would create more privately held NATIONAL WEALTH in the USA that would then be available to be confiscated with taxes in order to pay for our constantly growing US government expenses that are in excess of our federal tax collections.

The USA, France, and the PIIGS nations believe that we are entitled to continually borrow money from the industrialized nations to support our governments and have those governments pay for giving us everything that we need, instead of US citizens working to support ourselves and then taxing ourselves to pay for our government services.

Instead of creating more privately held NATIONAL WEALTH with RE-INDUSTRIALIZATION that could be subjected to taxation to raise (CONFISCATE) money to pay for expanding government expenses such as re-building the infrastructure, the US government and other governments are printing and selling freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds (that have NO VALUE and are not redeemable for gold) to generate money for the government expenses that are greater than tax revenues.
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gerald4
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05:44 PM on 01/30/2012
Since the US Dollars (Treasury Bonds and other Securities) have NO VALUE, except that the US government is allowing these freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds, Dollars and other Securities (that US citizens paid to foreign nations to make the consumer products that we consumed) to be redeemed for US Dollars that can be used to purchase title to (corporations that own) privately owned businesses, factories, casinos, hotels, farms, land, ports, refineries, forests, ports, breweries, distilleries, and other privately owned NATIONAL WEALTH and other assets located in the USA that were created by previous US generations prior to de-industrialization overseas instead of redeeming these freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds with gold from Ft. Knox.

When the USA has no more privately owned wealth and assets (real estate and businesses) available for foreigners in industrial countries to exchange for the foreigners freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds and freshly printed paper US Dollars that we gave the foreigners to make consumer products for US citizens, those foreigners will then not accept any more of our freshly printed US dollars and US Treasury bonds to pay for the consumer products that we continue to import and consume.

The Federal government will then not have funding to pay for our US government expenses (bureaucratic payrolls, military payrolls, government contracts, wars, welfare, unemployment, infrastructure expansion, highways, bridges, etc.) and/or to pay for any more imported consumer products.
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gerald4
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05:46 PM on 01/30/2012
When the US Government can no longer borrow mor money, they will then probably just start printing US dollars to pay for their government expenses.

When this happens, the purchasing power of the US dollar will approach zero.

I do not know why economists or anyone else could refer to or compare national (sovereign) debt as a percentage of Gross (National) Domestic Product (GDP) as having much importance.

This GDP has very little to do with the ability of a nation to repay their national debt especially if the majority of the GDP activity was US government borrowing money from wealth producing entities in the industrial nations and using that borrowed money to pay tax funded government employee, payrolls, unemployment benefits, welfare, retirement pensions, infrastructure projects, providing free medical, housing, wars, social services, pork barrel projects, military contracts, and other tax funded activities that do not produce any NATIONAL WEALTH that the nation could use to repay national (sovereign) debt, reduce the foreign trade deficit, or create any new NATIONAL WEALTH?

What if most of the GDP is spending BORROWED government funds to build infrastructure, pay government employee payrolls, flipping hamburgers, cleaning houses, selling insurance, selling stocks and other newly printed financial products, selling investments, suing each other, and other activities that do not generate any additional NATIONAL WEALTH?
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Hoodooman
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06:00 PM on 01/30/2012
Perhaps we should pass out some books authored by Ludwig Von Mises , before they are banned.
04:57 PM on 02/16/2012
Bill Maher recently said Ron Paul's forecast was wrong because the hyperinflation did not happen. -.-
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gerald4
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05:30 PM on 01/30/2012
The Trade Deficit is the basic structural economic foundation problem that will destroy the US economic miracle because title to US located assets are also leaving the USA to pay for the things that we import in addition to US government expenses.

The US International Trade Deficit must be corrected by any means possible in order to generate more NATIONAL WEALTH in the USA instead of continuing the flow of title to US located assets that are leaving the USA to pay for the things that we import from foreign manufacturers, and also to pay for increasing government expenses, such as stimulus for infrastructure expenses that does not increase NATIONAL WEALTH.

The US dollars that we paid foreigners to manufacture our consumer goods and services that we consumed/received have NO VALUE, except that they are redeemable for title to privately owned businesses, factories, casinos, hotels, farms, land, ports, breweries, refineries, forests, ports, breweries, refineries, and other privately owned assets located in the USA that were created by previous wealth producing US generations instead of Gold from Ft. Knox.

The US International Trade Deficit must be corrected by any means possible (Re-Industrialize) in order to generate more NATIONAL WEALTH and stop the flow of title to US located assets to pay for the things that we import from foreign manufacturers, and also to pay for increasing government expenses, such as stimulus for infrastructure expenses.
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gerald4
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05:33 PM on 01/30/2012
The BRIC nations, plus Pakistan, South Korea, and the other industrialized countries of the world that have a positive net foreign trade balance are NET CREATORS of NATIONAL WEALTH (and the associated manufacturing jobs) for their nations.

The de-industrialized USA (and the European nations) with a negative net trade balance are NET CONSUMERS (DESTROYERS) of their own existing NATIONAL WEALTH (and the associated manufacturing jobs) in the USA, who live by continuously borrowing wealth from the industrialized countries.

Nations need to make the things that they consume, not sell title to in-country located farms, land, businesses, hotels, etc and other assets to pay for the things that they consume and to pay for their government expenses, especially when they consume more than they create.

Without profitable US businesses, US corporations, and US businessmen, there will NOT BE ANY JOBS for US citizens to create wealth for those businesses, except for tax payer funded jobs which will also disappear if businesses stop creating NATIONAL WEALTH that can be taxed or CONFISCATED to pay for bureaucratic government jobs, government contracts, unemployment benefits, social security benefits, welfare benefits, National Healthcare, wars, police, firefighters, infrastructure improvements and various other free government services.

The US federal government must stop creating new legislation that drives US businesses and those US jobs to foreign countries.

The US federal government should repeal the laws that they previously created that caused and economically required that US businesses and their US jobs to relocate to foreign nations.
04:44 PM on 01/30/2012
He profits from our suffering. In any democracy he would by in jail for life for his crimes against humanity. In our current system the biggest criminals are telling politicians what to do to let them commit even more crimes for their profit ans to our loss.
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gerald4
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05:06 PM on 01/30/2012
I think that you should blame me and all of the other US citizens for electing both Republican and Democrat US Congressmen and Senators that created all of the "FREE TRADE AGREEMENT" legislation during the past 20 years that legally allowed and ECONOMICALLY REQUIRED that almost all non-government jobs in the USA be moved to foreign nations by removing the import tariffs that protected the USA jobs (or actually the pay scales, benefits) of the US worker and allowed businesses to take advantage of the lower cost labor, electricity and EPA manufacturing regulation compliance!

Maybe President Obama will ask Congress and the Senate to repeal all of the Free Trade Agreements or treaties because they will continue to cause the relocation of many more existing US jobs to foreign nations?

President Obama’s FTAs will probably have the same results of "sucking our US jobs to Mexico" as when President Clinton signed NAFTA into law except that these US jobs will go to other nations this time. NAFTA was the first of many subsequent treaties created by many subsequent "FREE TRADE" legislation actions!
04:43 AM on 01/31/2012
I am a US citizen too and I DO blame myself too, of course. I am even worse. I let them lie me into three tours in Iraq thinking I fought for fredom while destroying freedom and innocent lives over there.
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David T Tower
09:06 AM on 01/31/2012
So don't buy their stuff and don't use their services. If the left would quit complaining about someone making more money than them, and start thinking about ways to make their own (instead of trying to confiscate it through redistributive taxation and penalizing success) money, maybe things would be different. The difference between an entrepreneur and an employee; the entrepreneur looks at Google and says how can I get that successful, the employee says they made so much money, they should "give" me some. By the way, we are a Republic, not a Democracy. The only thing that is skewed in our current system is "crony capitalism". Giving unfair advantage to one company over another IE: GM, Chrysler, Solyndra. GE, etc.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
10:38 AM on 01/31/2012
How much of that "free government money" ended up in politician's re-election campaign chests?
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gerald4
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03:23 PM on 01/30/2012
Both of these major political parties are in favor of the free trade legislation, which has destroyed US industries and the industrial employment opportunities for the average US working person.

The Free Trade Treaties removed most all import and export tariffs that protected the working class pay scales, working conditions, EPA compliance requirements, 40 hr work weeks, holidays, vacations, low cost electrical power, and other factors that economically required that US businesses relocate to foreign nations.

All of these "FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS" destroyed jobs for the blue collar working citizens of the USA, so why did our elected congressmen create all of these "Free Trade Legislation" laws? Were our elected congressmen ignorant, stupid, dishonest, or some combination of these factors?
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:25 PM on 01/30/2012
Do you think that maybe the foreign product manufacturers that export consumer products to the USA might have paid professional US lobbyists to spend hundreds of thousands of US dollars on wine, food, women, song, vacations, cash, sexual services, corporate jobs for the (unemployable) children/wives/girlfriends of enough of the US senators and US congressmen (and their congressional aids who actually control the members of congress) plus campaign contributions to entice (bribe) enough of our Republican and Democratic US Presidents, Congressmen and Senators for the past 20 years to create all of that "FREE TRADE LEGISLATION" to ratify various trade agreements that allowed, caused, and ECONOMICALLY REQUIRED our businesses to take advantage of the lower labor costs, lower electrical energy costs, lower business taxes, lower payroll taxes to pay for health care costs, lower unemployment insurance costs, lower environmental manufacturing costs and other anti-business costs that are not required in various foreign countries with fewer anti-business laws that are/were applicable to businesses in the USA?

How do you think that US Government environmental damage liability limits, pharmaceutical liability limits, product liability limits, tax exemption loopholes, agricultural subsidies, and/or any other laws benefiting only a few people were created by our elected US congress and US senate, and then enforced by our elected presidents and their bureaucratic administrators?
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gerald4
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03:21 PM on 01/30/2012
The businesses across this nation are creating new permanent jobs to manufacture their newly invented/developed products, but these jobs are going to be located in foreign nations to take advantage of the existing US government's FREE TRADE AGREEMENT legislation that ECONOMICALLY REQUIRES that US businesses to relocate their manufacturing plants and outsource labor expenditures to nations that offer lower manufacturing costs and lower employee wages as much as possible since they have to satisfy the US consumer's demand for the very lowest price possible for each of the US consumer's purchase.

US companies will become bankrupt if they pay decent wages to US citizens, use expensive US electricity, and/or comply with US environmental laws.

The prevailing anti-business US government atmosphere and attitude that has been created by both major political parties in the last few decades is also a factor in addition to the economical cost reasons to locate new jobs overseas instead of in the USA.

These FREE TRADE AGREEMENT laws make creating jobs in the USA un-economical because US labor, US electrical energy, and US manufacturing environmental requirement costs are almost always many many times more expensive in the USA due to all of the US government laws and regulations when compared to Asian costs.

US citizens have elected both Republican and Democratic congressmen and senators who created the "FREE TRADE" laws that generally did not exist several decades ago when the USA was a successful industrial giant.
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AlanBannacheck
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12:30 PM on 01/30/2012
Wealthy citizens have less of a capacity for empathy then poor and middle class. Google imagining it is going to be
Here forever is very short sighted. A. Fossil Fuels are responsible for most of the electricity that runs their server farms. B. fossil fuels are finite. Therefore, there server farms cannot last forever.
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David T Tower
09:13 AM on 01/31/2012
Alan, the have's and have not's fight has been going on for centuries. I don't believe ones empathy stems from their wealth. It stems from your up bringing.
As far as fossil fuels are concerned, you wouldn't be commenting on this msg board without them. Talk is cheap. If the free market were allowed to reign, we would already have alternative resources.
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Jim bob
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12:12 PM on 01/30/2012
Gives me new perspective on Google and puts it right down there with Home Depot and the like. Break the stranglehold, people.
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gerald4
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03:19 PM on 01/30/2012
Yes, Pay $100.00 for a US made item that you could have bought for $10.00 at Home Depot.
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Jim bob
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04:47 PM on 01/30/2012
Or do without, since you don't need it anyway.