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Centaur Galileo, Sports Betting Hedge Fund Inspired By Mark Cuban, Collapses

Centaur Galileo

First Posted: 01/30/2012 7:11 pm Updated: 01/30/2012 7:11 pm

Mark Cuban is an undeniable idea machine. But one of his boldest ideas yet may have proven too hot to handle.

Centaur, a London-based investment company, launched its Galileo fund in 2010 based in part because of an idea Cuban proposed in a 2004 blog post -- creating a hedge fund that invested in sports bets. It didn't last very long, however, as the fund appears to have collapsed on Monday, according to Wager Minds.

Cuban's original idea for a fund similar to Galileo revolved around the idea thats sports provided more information to investors than actual American companies.

"It's not unusual to hear people refer to trading stocks as no different than going to Vegas. They are right. Gambling isgambling [sic]," Cuban wrote in his blog at the time. "The question really is, which gives the opportunity for a better outcome?"

"When you think about betting on sports, there really is far better information about your local sports team than there is about any local business in your market. The local papers cover the team every day. The localTV station gives a report about every game. There areradio stations who cover them for hours at a time [sic]," Cuban added. "That's far better than we get from public companies."

Though Galileo wasn't a traditional hedge fund, its collapse may highlight some of the risks inherent in others, which aim for high-risk, high-reward investments, sometimes with large-scale consequences. A recent paper from two Yale professors found that hedge funds may have played a larger role in the financial crisis than many originally thought. John Paulson's hedge fund, for one, has been tied to claims that Goldman Sachs purposefully created financial instruments they assumed likely to go bust -- and then bet against them.

Financial crisis or not, another study, this one by Princeton researchers, found hedge funds to be "far riskier and provide much lower returns than is commonly supposed." In other words, lots of the bad stuff without so much of the good.

Galileo, which required a minimum of roughly $135,000 to be come an investor, used a number crunching system that the founders argued allowed the fund to bet on sports with much more accuracy than the casual gambler, according to the Los Angeles Times. In his blog post, Cuban argued that because the sports betting market is less efficient than other markets, anyone who applied a "smart money" strategy to investing in it would have a good chance at success.

That's a notion with which Tony Woodhams, Centaur's managing director, previously said he agreed.

"We have unique software we've written over five years that ensures we purely trade on statistics and probabilities," Woodhams told CNBC in 2010. "The process is very clinical, which is our edge."

Despite Woodhams' confidence, it appears that there may have been some red flags indicating Galileo was headed down a bad path, according to Wager Minds. The fund was regulated by Gibraltar's government, instead of the British government. At this point, the reason for the fund's collapse is reportedly still unknown.

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Mark Cuban is an undeniable idea machine. But one of his boldest ideas yet may have proven too hot to handle. Centaur, a London-based investment company, launched its Galileo fund in 2010 based in...
Mark Cuban is an undeniable idea machine. But one of his boldest ideas yet may have proven too hot to handle. Centaur, a London-based investment company, launched its Galileo fund in 2010 based in...
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
01:24 PM on 02/01/2012
And if this hedge fund had made money.... it would have been taxed at only a 15% capitol gains tax...
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
01:23 PM on 02/01/2012
At least he admits that stock market trading is just legalized gambling. When a "job creator" invests their money in a gamble, that money does not necessarily translate to new jobs.
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woody7
Always a Dem, but..............
12:05 PM on 02/01/2012
MC is a D] i [ck
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geneandeddie59
Internationally unknown
01:48 PM on 01/31/2012
Most likely, they were betting on WWE, WWF, ECW and WCW matches!
01:28 PM on 01/31/2012
uban should know that the house always wins.
01:09 PM on 01/31/2012
Go back to Cuba, Mark!
12:56 PM on 01/31/2012
Can't tax the job creators, they need that money to gamble on sports apparently...

The sickest part is that whatever profit the fund made would have been subject to only a 15% capital gains tax.
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BrutusHonestus
Don't Ask Me for the Answer You Want to Hear
06:09 PM on 01/31/2012
The tax dodge was the prime selling point to investors
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
01:21 PM on 02/01/2012
That makes me sick....
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Big0725
Large...........but definitely NOT in charge!
12:55 PM on 01/31/2012
A hedge fund for sports gambling? Possibly the most obscenely capitalistic idea I've ever heard of. Just happy it went bust.
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Agasizzi
12:49 PM on 01/31/2012
I lost any respect I may have had for Cuban after watching him insult an inventor because he refused to make his product over seas. Folks like Cuban are the reason this country is such a mess right now.
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steve11407
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12:43 PM on 01/31/2012
Cuban is a self made billionaire who came from humble beginnings . His work ethic combined with the idea that web-casting/internet broadcasting would be popular among the masses made him his fortune. Who doesn't avail themselves to that technology today? The story does not say he had any involvement in Centaur Galileo other than maybe inspiring someone to think the scheme might work. Why do people try to disparage the successful?
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Someone Out There
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01:45 PM on 01/31/2012
Why do sensible people criticize those who consider most corporate executives "successful?" Perhaps because their definition of success is based on more factors than an individual's net worth.
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steve11407
pending approval and won't be displayed until ...
03:15 PM on 01/31/2012
I'm not sure of your meaning. Please clarify your reply. Do you mean that because I consider Cuban successful I can't consider Mother Teresa successful?
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woody7
Always a Dem, but..............
12:06 PM on 02/01/2012
sorry he is sill a D] ic]k
12:41 PM on 01/31/2012
Re a Gambling fund. If we assume that statistics accurately project the chances of winning on sports as they do in craps, then paying a fee to a hedge fund manager, like the house odds in a Casino, means you are an absolute idiot if you paid this guy anything and deserve to lose while he has a nice house in the Caymans
05:54 PM on 01/31/2012
That's an unrealistic assumption. Sports betting lines are generally very good, but there are enough bad ones that a small minority of bettors can make money over the long run if they bet judiciously. There are many professional sports bettors, and no professional craps players that I know of (other than cheaters).

I'm guessing Cuban's fund dissolved because their handle was just too big to get enough action on the lines that were worth betting.
imayes
Mongo like candy!
12:36 PM on 01/31/2012
It's a lot more difficult to manipulate sports teams than it is to manipulate the market. This was a bad idea from the start.
12:51 PM on 01/31/2012
Cooking the books is quite hard indeed in this case!
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sunflwer1975
Just a girl!!!
12:34 PM on 01/31/2012
he looks odd too...age and weight?
12:51 PM on 01/31/2012
Feel free to look these up.
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Big0725
Large...........but definitely NOT in charge!
12:56 PM on 01/31/2012
Try Google and stop being so lazy!
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laymancanuck
Left of centre, because it works for everyone.
12:29 PM on 01/31/2012
Mark is suffering from "rich guy syndrome' , ever increasing ego and arrogance.
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Barbarian At The Gate
Fortune favors the bold.
12:28 PM on 01/31/2012
How does one invest in sports bets anyway?

The first stock certificate ever issued was in 1606 by the Dutch India Trading Company, known as The Verenigde Oostindische Compagnie or VOC. Back then the ocean going vessels were a huge risk but the international trade was profitable. Hence the need for limited liability and joint investment.

Modern day traders do appear to be more gamblers than investors. Real investing is investing money for the long term in a business or project that has real potential. The risk is usually manageable.