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As Mortgage Settlement Deal Nears Feb. 3 Deadline, Nevada AG Raises Concerns

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First Posted: 01/30/2012 3:47 pm Updated: 01/30/2012 6:51 pm

As the Obama administration, state attorneys general and the nation's biggest banks close in on a settlement over allegations of widespread mortgage fraud, Nevada's attorney general is pushing back with concerns and questions. Meanwhile a Feb. 3 deadline looms for states to declare whether they are joining the settlement.

In a letter sent Friday, emailed to federal officials and obtained by The Huffington Post, Nevada's attorney general, Catherine Cortez Masto, asked 38 questions relating to a variety of concerns, including fears that states would play second fiddle to the federal government in making decisions. She also questioned if states would lose their ability to pursue certain types of lawsuits against banks and whether states would get their fair share of the housing assistance for their borrowers.

"What would happen if all of the state attorney general representatives had one view and the federal agencies disagreed?" Masto asked in her letter.

Masto's letter comes at a time when the Obama administration is looking to show it can be tough with Wall Street. Consumer advocates and housing experts alike have consistently criticized the administration's handling of the foreclosure crisis, calling the president soft on the banks. The settlement represents the president's best opportunity to prove those critics wrong and he is pressuring states to sign the settlement.

Though a handful of states have voiced fears about joining the settlement, Mastro's email is the first to detail those concerns clearly. It serves as a window into unresolved issues remaining for this settlement deal, 15 months in the making and valued at roughly $25 billion.

"These are the types of questions all the attorneys general have been asking: clarification on language, which servicing standards will be implemented, things like that, rather than indicating resistance to the settlement," said an Obama administration official not authorized to speak on the record.

"We, along with our federal partners, are responding directly to Attorney General Masto to try to address her concerns," said Geoff Greenwood, spokesman for Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller, the lead negotiator for the state attorneys general and one of the three original recipients of Masto's letter.

Nevada has been burned in the past by large, multistate mortgage settlements. In 2009 the state joined 10 others in agreeing to a settlement regarding fraudulent mortgage practices at Countrywide, the subprime lender that came to epitomize questionable lending during the housing boom. Bank of America, which now owns Countrywide, agreed to offer as much as $8.4 billion in loan modifications and foreclosure relief to 400,000 homeowners victimized by Countrywide's mortgage fraud. But as of June 30, just roughly $216 million in payments had been made through the program. In August 2011, a frustrated Masto asked a court to void the deal so that Nevada could go after the bank on its own.

Settlement talks began in October 2010, when attorneys general from all 50 states joined with the federal government to prosecute five large financial institutions -- Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Wells Fargo and Ally Financial -- for mortgage-related misconduct, including falsifying documents and failing to provide mortgage modifications to eligible homeowners. In addition to a monetary penalty, the deal is expected to reform the mortgage servicing industry and offer relief to homeowners via mortgage modifications, principal write-downs and refinancings.

In last week's State of the Union speech, President Barack Obama remained silent on the topic of the settlement but announced the creation of a new financial crimes unit tasked with investigating fraud related to mortgage loans pooled into bonds. "This new unit will hold accountable those who broke the law, speed assistance to homeowners and help turn the page on an era of recklessness that hurt so many Americans," he said.

Some remain unconvinced. "Look at what happened with WorldCom ... Those guys were committing fraud at their own companies, and still they went to jail for what they did," said a prominent securities lawyer who wished to remain anonymous, referring to the fates of CEO Bernard Ebbers and other WorldCom executives. In comparison, "these financial shenanigans had an impact way beyond any one company, and these guys are still walking around free," the lawyer said. "There's just not been much effort to hold Wall Street or any of these other guys accountable."

Last week the administration also announced the expansion of the federal government's loan modification program, Making Home Affordable program, by loosening the eligibility criteria and rolling the program's expiration date back a year. But to some consumer advocates, it's too little too late.

"I view this as nothing more than election-year grandstanding, an attempt by the [Obama] administration to look like it's doing something to help homeowners," said Melissa Huelsman, a private attorney who has represented homeowners for more than a decade.

In an effort to flex its muscles on the housing crisis, the Obama administration is feverishly pushing to announce a mortgage settlement deal as soon as possible. Though most states plan to sign on to the settlement, a few remain undecided, including California and Nevada, the two states that have spent the last four years in either first and second place as the one with the nation's highest foreclosure rate.

Click here for the full text of Attorney General Masto's letter.

CORRECTION: Originally this story stated that Masto's letter was sent Monday to federal officials. It has been corrected to reflect that the letter was sent on Friday.
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PharmaCan 04:08 PM on 01/30/2012
I hope that the AG's in California, Nevada and the other states who oppose this deal hang tough. Obama is Wall St.'s punk. He'll bend over any time they tell him to, and our country deserves better than that. Since it seems that we will be stuck with Obama for another four years, only because he represents the lesser of two evils, the states need to make it very clear to him that he needs to quit punking  Read More...
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anonymous67
01:22 PM on 02/04/2012
If this deal goes through, the likelihood that any state can secure justice is greatly diminished by the massive resources of these banks --- who now control the equivalent of over 70% of the US economy.

However, they know they can’t hide their perjured documents as the evidence can be found in every county courthouse across this county. A single county register in Mass. checked and founded 31,000 perjured foreclosure documents in just his county. How many millions of perjured documents are to be found across the country?

These weren’t accidents or oversights -- these banks knowingly and systematically set-up organizations and processes to break our laws – thousands upon thousands of times. These are criminals who belong in prison -- not living lavishly with their ill-gotten gains even as their victims still suffer.

Please stand up for your citizens and reject this bad, bad deal. And instead pursue full prosecution and restitution for all those harmed – not a token number and not at the whim of these banks.
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anonymous67
05:15 PM on 02/03/2012
This is a bad, bad deal for America and a sweet-heart deal for banks. Banks will pay a pittance, escape federal prosecution and then dish out a few refi's to friends and investors threatening lawsuits. Most Americans will be left sucking wind while the criminals retire in lavish luxury.

These banks no longer serve our economy -- ONLY themselves. There are almost no home or small business loans anywhere. 90% of small businesses are currently impaired by lack of credit. And a home loan -- ha ha.

Instead these banks take capital from the Fed, apply obscene leverage and gamble for oil, metals, food, foreign currencies while parking the rest in US treasuries. Rather than providing liquidity to our economy, these banks are draining the wealth of the nation and pushing millions into poverty by inflating essentials. They are pariahs.

It is past time to sent the sheriff and bring them to jail. If our government wants to negotiate, it needs to first put these criminals in federal prison for 10-15 years -- and then negotiate for FULL restitution. Not the 5-10% in this bad deal.
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jtenn
12:36 PM on 02/04/2012
anonymous67 gets it totally!
The problem is not settling with the banks on their terms and letting them set the guidelines going forward with the Dept of Justices' blessing, to put this behind us.

The problem is investigating and prosecuting bankers that have stolen Americas equity and then taking it back by way of banks taking the haircut, not homeowners, just like they do as investors, in commercial property situations all the time!
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12:30 PM on 02/03/2012
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cbo-taxes-will-shoot-more-30-percent-over-next-2-years
CBO: Taxes Will ‘Shoot Up by More Than 30 Percent’ Over Next 2 Years
This is the price YOU will pay to save Wall Street from going to jail for the mortgage-backed securities fraud.
07:14 AM on 02/03/2012
HELOC's are to consumers what derivatives were to AIG- never a good idea to begin with. Yet, we American's lived high on life (and second mortgages) for most of the last 15 years. We all know people that based their retirement thinking on the eventual sale of their primary residence as a significant suppliment to income when they sold to move to the sunbelt. Well, there are plenty of homes still available in the sunbelt. Trouble is people can no longer sell their primary residence to make the transition.

Here is a blog post about the fact, in my humble opinion, why the home we live should not be considered a real estate "investment". http://multifamilyinsight.net/2010/02/11/your-home-is-not-a-real-estate-investment/
11:39 PM on 01/31/2012
Just hope that enough state AGs hold their ground to keep the administration from pushing a weak settlement just to have an election year 'win'...

Seriously, how pathetic is that? Sell the American people further down the river just to make yourself look good???

The WorldCom disaster, Anthony Cuti (Duane Reade), Paul Allen (Taylor Beane mortgage scandal) and many other CEOs are doing jail time for criminal charges... Why is Jon Corzine not out on bail? The folks at Countrywide?

Again, just hope enough state AGs take a stand for the American taxpayer.
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soma77
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10:47 PM on 01/31/2012
The Republican politicians and their political appointments do not want to do anything against their allies, Big Money. They don't care about the Nevadan citizens. They think Nevadans are so stupid to continue to vote against their interest that Nevadans deserve what they give get.
11:27 PM on 01/31/2012
It frightens me that all you see are Repubs allied with Big Money...

I guess I didn't realize that drinking that much Kool Aid has a detrimental effect on eye sight!

As you long as your political affliction blinds you to the abuses of 'your' party, you remain a significant part of the problem existing miles away from the border with Solution.
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soma77
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10:27 PM on 02/01/2012
I know Reid is a power broker and that is how he keeps getting elected in a Republican state, but the Republicans are way out in front of the Democrats in representing big money at the expense of the middle class. I feel even Republicans are jumping the Republican ship that is sinking with greed.
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Ross Schuman
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03:53 PM on 01/31/2012
The actual letter Masto the NV AG wrote contains language and questions that would be asked if a settlement is vague with little enforcement as in previous settlements. She asks 38 major questions. These are not details, but rather sounds like the settlement is extremely vague with those many questions. A vague settlement that has other various inherent problems looks more like relief for these entities we call"banks". you can read the Masto's actual letter and more concerns on this blog.

http://abigailcfield.com/?p=876
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donut999
04:09 PM on 01/31/2012
AG's are just being impractical. No doubt it is and will be nightmare administering no matter how fine tuned. Find it distasteful they have not given the needle to many of the banks and mortgage companies, but the simple fact is it is not going to happen. $25 billion is pain, probably not near enough, but it is all that is coming. The AG's are doing a Boehner ala the end of the year fight on reduced withholding and UE benefit extension. It is their job and glad they are making noise, but it is a wheel spinner.
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donut999
03:11 PM on 01/31/2012
The primary reason there are not more "work outs" or restructures is the simple fact that most of the situations are hopeless. Expend a brain cell or 2 and realize the last thing a lender wants to do is foreclose on a home loan. The short sales we are seeing are a good example. Nothing much comes along unless it is a hoped for 80-90% recovery. For instance, Total debt perhaps $200,000. Hoped for sale perhaps $165k to $190k. Most of the loans are more like this. $275,000 debt, expected recovery $175-185k. Meantime, the borrowers have experienced job loss or downgrade, and have accumulated additional debt via credit cards and other means. Their credit scores have suffered and they would be lucky to even finance a used car. The government has tried to push programs that might help some, but at this point it like pushing a rope uphill. That is, unless everyone just get a free ride.
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donut999
02:52 PM on 01/31/2012
I will never be able to get away from the simple fact that the buyer (consumer) is just as guilty in this mess as the banks and mortgage companies. I cannot recall how frequently I was hearing 6-8 years ago from friends and acquaintances words to the effect "if they are dumb enough to loan me the money, I sure am not going to turn it down" Re the robo signing and who holds the debt, a fair question back is "what does it matter, you defaulted by not making the payments." If you do not pay the electric bill, your service is cut off. Same with the car payment--the repo man will be showing up.
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Jarrod Putnam
And so long as men die, liberty will never perish
03:06 PM on 01/31/2012
In all fairness, most consumers did not have that type of attitude.
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donut999
03:34 PM on 01/31/2012
Granted, but bad decisions post the purchase put many in the spot they are in. Was not just addressing the initial mortgage. Too easy heloc's, equity lines, etc. found many using the increasing equity for a whole host of reasons they rationalized were appropriate. It is and was not just the initial purchase in 2001 of $250,000 with 5% down resulting in a mortgage of $237,500 that put them in the dumper. It was more about the fact that by 2005, their house would appraise for $410,000 and there they were in the heloc line taking out another $162,500. For some, seemed legit, paying off higher price debt, etc.. For others, it was a 25 foot Sea Ray and a Vette. Then the bubble bursting reaper showed up in 07. Suddenly, their house is worth $275,000 and they still owe $400,000. Meantime, the hubby lost his job $100,000 job and is working part time at $12 hour. Obviously this happened in a multitude of colors and flavors, but it is why I cannot get past feeling the blame should be shared.
11:30 PM on 01/31/2012
So your are judging a whole section of society based on what you heard from YOUR friends 6-8 years ago???

Perhaps you should take a harder look at the people you associate with??

Maybe even a nice long look at someone who would have such friends????
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donut999
08:12 AM on 02/01/2012
How did your foreclosure go?
02:03 PM on 01/31/2012
Hats off to Catherine Masto, Kamala Harris, Eric Schneiderman and Beau Biden! Clearly anything these banks agree to has to be suspect from the start.
Keep asking questions! I guarantee that there are terms hidden in this agreement that help the banksters out of this mess while tying up homeowners even more. The more I read the more I am convinced that homeowners were, and continue to be, pawns in this continued grab for money.
01:21 PM on 01/31/2012
Thank God we have someone brave enough to stand up and say: "Wait a minute". Sounds like another Wall Street/White House/Congressional screw job for the taxpayers of the United States.
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Ban KKiller
Banks are criminal.
09:54 AM on 01/31/2012
Unless you understand where your mortgage note is you can't appreciate the fact that there is no way out of this mess that will make anyone and everyone happy. The fact is most people can not find out WHO owns their mortgage. Call your "pretender" lender or "servicer", AKA debt collector, and ask them to validate the debt under the FAIR DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT. You WILL be lied to, misled and even questioned over your right to know. You will be told that Fannie or Freddie "own" your mortgage. That is a lie. Fannie and Freddie securitizes loans, guarantees them and sells mortgage loans in packages to investors and they, Fannie and Freddie, maintain the trust. So where is the original mortgage note? Who is the beneficial owner? Who is the holder in due course? No one knows but when it comes to foreclosure then the documents magically appear....FRAUD and FORGERY to the rescue! Banks call it "robo-signing" and if you think it is over you are wrong.
01:23 PM on 01/31/2012
If the banks did not properly foreclose on the property their note should be null and void. Let them sort it out in court. Each one at a time. We have time to obey the law.
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jtenn
12:53 PM on 02/04/2012
What if?
What if the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau were to come up with ruling that software be created, to be used by all servicers on all mortgages, that would rewrite all mortgages with the new balance, reflecting equity stolen from borrowers, as write down? New mortgage would be based on remaining term and interest based on "margin" plus banks borrowing cost of approximately .25% today.
As an added bonus to consumers, banks would likely have less money to manipulate commodity prices going forward.
Seems like a win win to me and you and revoking their "get out of jail card" to the bankers.
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donut999
03:57 PM on 01/31/2012
The business changed. Everyone went to the "servicer" approach. At the time of sale, and disposition of whatever is recovered, there will be an accounting and disbursement to anyone holding a fragment of the original mortgage. One fact not in doubt as the process proceeds is who owes the money on the defaulted mortgage. Believe in most states, the re-po man must have the car title on his person. Doubt they always do, but certain they rarely present one since they do not call you up on a sunny Saturday morning at 10 am to let you know they will be stopping by to re-po your car. Your car departed about 7 hours before at 3 am. Most of this whining and accusations of fraud about the processing is just a smokescreen for people looking for a free ride. Pay your mortgage. If you cannot or will not, take the lumps.
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Ross Schuman
Eye of the Storm
04:24 PM on 01/31/2012
Your rationalizations should have support. There is one other fact not in doubt as well and that is many entities, trust,s and service conduits that foreclose can not show how the came upon the asset they want to foreclose on. By studying securitiaztion, Respa, tila, Reg z you can conclude that investor also loses on a foreclosure as well, as the next door neighbor that loses 100k or 100k on the equity when the house next door forecloses. The only real winner is the entity that services and foreclose, but yet the orginal investor, tax, payer, home owner, and the over all economy take the lumps. Show everyone take the lumps and the title system goes to shambles as well?

http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/why-all-the-robo-signing/
09:03 AM on 01/31/2012
President speak with forked tongue. lol
08:58 AM on 01/31/2012
He does talk a good game doesn't he. I am watching to see if he really does anything to help the homeowners who have been denied loan modifications. If he doesn't help, then I won't be voting for him as I did last time. So disappointed.
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jtenn
01:07 PM on 02/04/2012
Boy I'm agreeing with you folks on this one left and right today... In Nevada we can vote for NONE OF THE ABOVE, for all the good it does. Obama will be re-elected since the repubs have such a shamefully inadequate crew clawing for the prize.
I'm aware of more than one mt promise made by the President. (Several years ago alluding to gasoline price gouging not being tolerated, comes to mind)
I realize the Senate has either filibustered (threatened to) or the House has simply worn themselves out quoting ruperts' talking points until we're all nauseous.
That does not give Obama a pass to keep coming up with plans knowing they will be ignored by the Congress.
There must be a better way!

Perhaps, perhaps we can try voting the TeaParty into oblivion and add a couple Democrats to the Senate to see if Obama is able to improve our lot going forward?
The alternative is unthinkable.
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AlonzoQuijana
08:25 AM on 01/31/2012
"I view this as nothing more than election-year grandstanding, an attempt by the [Obama] administration to look like it's doing something to help homeowners," said Melissa Huelsman, a private attorney who has represented homeowners for more than a decade.

This is typical Obama. Talk a good game, then fail to deliver anything tangible.