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Sveti Nikola, Macedonian Orthodox Christian Church, Set Alight

Macedonian Church Fire

By BORIS GRDANOSKI and KONSTANTIN TESTORIDES   01/31/12 12:15 PM ET  AP

LABUNISTA, Macedonia -- An Orthodox Christian church famed for its valuable icons was set alight in southern Macedonia overnight, authorities said Tuesday, as religious tension between Christians and minority Muslims grew over a carnival in which men dressed as women in burqas and mocked the Quran.

Firefighters extinguished the fire late Monday in the two century-old Sveti Nikola church, in the village of Labunista near the town of Struga. The church's roof was partly destroyed but its icons were not damaged, the fire service said.

Hours before the fire, Muslim leaders had appealed for calm among community members.

The Jan. 13 Vevcani festival prompted angry, sometimes violent demonstrations by Muslims, who are nearly all ethnic Albanian and make up 33 percent of the country's 2.1 million population and accuse the majority of stoking hatred.

Ethnic tension has been simmering in this small Balkan country since the end of an armed rebellion in 2001, when ethnic Albanian rebels fought government forces for about eight months, seeking greater rights for their community. The conflict left 80 people dead, and ended with the intervention of NATO peacekeepers.

The Vevcani carnival, a traditional festival said to have been held for some 1,400 years, attracts thousands of visitors. Local residents traditionally wear elaborate, frequently sarcastic masks, with some of the most common costumes including devils and demons.

The perceived mockery of the Quran and the burqa costumes caused outrage. On Saturday, protesters attacked an inter-city bus heading from Struga to Vevcani, throwing rocks at the vehicle. They also defaced a Macedonian flag outside Struga's municipal building, replacing it with a green flag representing Islam. On the same day, perpetrators attacked a church in the nearby village of Labunista, destroying a 4-meter (13-feet) cross.

Macedonian president Gjorge Ivanov and the leaders of the Orthodox Christian and Muslim communities condemned the incidents and called for the perpetrators to be brought to justice.

The three "expressed confidence that the tradition of living together for centuries in Macedonia remains the value ... for all people of Macedonia," Ivanov's office said in a statement.

The European Union's mission in Macedonia also called for cooperation among the religious communities.

Ethnic Albanians in Macedonia and elsewhere in the Balkans have traditionally been secular. But conservative Islamic schools, especially an ultra-conservative form of the religion known as Wahhabism, have taken a foothold in the years following the brief 2001 uprising.

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Testorides reported from Skopje, Macedonia.

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01:45 PM on 02/29/2012
Know your rights! A brief discussion on religious courts and the US legal system. Part one of our three part series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8du23J-58vk
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bmuesli
01:01 AM on 02/03/2012
Religion poisons everything.
05:20 AM on 02/02/2012
Struga was mostly Macedonian, now mostly Albanian. There drug money gets feed straight back to "the cause" as with Kosovo and most likely Montenegro. Ancient Illyria looks awefully similar to this picture doesnt it?

To all you arm-chair wanna-be intellectuals, you have no clue. If your village where you live all of a sudden became 50% muslim, what do you think you would happen? By the way Turks and Torbeshi (mulimised macedonians=1%) and the Maceodnians get along just fine but with these people its a different story.
Maybe another comparison is to think of the chavs, knackers (in Ireland), pikeys in UK, or the aborigines in Australia (the ones that cause the problem) and that is alot of the Albanians in Former Yugosolavia (actually the Albanians in Abania are nice people). Might come down to education.
As bias as this may seem, ive lived all over the world and my time in Macedonia was one of the biggest eye openers i have EVER experienced. what was happening to the macedonians was NEVER shown on western TV. My heart goes out to the Serbs in Kosovo who have also had there story manipulated by the Main stream Media. Maybe churches there also detroyed
05:20 AM on 02/02/2012
Albanians may have been there for centuries, much like macedonians have been in SE Albania and northern greece for centuries. Albanians in greece and greeks in Macedonia and Albania. Also Turks, Vlah and Roma. However 33% of the population is now Albanian. it certainly wasnt 20-30 years ago. With so many children per family and with Kosovo albanians walking over the border the Albanian population will just get larger and larger.
Also many Macedonians left and are leaving to Australia and the US/Canada

I am an anglo but i speak Macedonian and was there in 2001 among other times.This topic is always debated by left armchair wanna-be intellectuals who have no clue.
In 2001 Albanian terrorists were capturing innocent Macedonians and blowing them up in their shops. Army soldiers were captured, tortured and had their genitals cut off!. The west invervene most likley due to the Macedonian army have help from the Ukraine and actually defending their country. Somehow America excerted pressure to stop the conflict (conspiracy states that CIA insurgents were amongst the NLA) and these "poor poor" people were given more rights. These people who consider themselves nothing more than Albanian. The only time they ever say they are Macedonian is when the do something wrong in Switzerland and Germany.
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usjoey
Simplicity is complexity resolved.
11:48 PM on 02/01/2012
A couple of years ago, I spent the longest month of my life in Macedonia. Rampant corruption, a very low standard of living combined with an inability to let go of the past makes life there pretty difficult. I kid you not, at every cafe you will still find a group of men arguing about the level of greatness and the origin of Alexander the Great...and don't even mention the Greeks!
07:25 AM on 02/01/2012
The European Union has been turning a blind eye to this for more than fifteen years. I attended one meeting in Brussels where I heard an EU official that if you want to submit a tender for work in Macedonia ''You should not mention the Albanians.''

EU aid to Macedonia should be conditional upon Macedonian government engaging in actions to promote inter-communal peace. They have not been doing so over recent years.
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peter010908
The easiest way to control people is through fear.
10:40 PM on 01/31/2012
Well I guess now it's only fair if the Macedonains burn down a few mosques when they are offended.
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Vlad Roudenko
12:10 AM on 02/01/2012
So more violence and fanaticism is the answer? When does this spiral of violence end?
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peter010908
The easiest way to control people is through fear.
01:30 AM on 02/01/2012
No actually it isn't but if you watch the news it's a trend that's happening in a lot of places where Muslims are burning down Christian churches... since they love their mosques and have no respect for other peoples places of worship, maybe burn down theirs and see how they like it.

Do you just let them burn down every church each time they are upset? and the moment someone does something back them blame them? feed them some story about the spiral of violence?

It's like if me and you had an argument and i hit you, then i hit you again, then again... sooner or later your going to him me back.
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peter010908
The easiest way to control people is through fear.
10:38 PM on 01/31/2012
Just as the Albanian wanted a part of Serbian territory they are also seeking parts of Macedonian territory for themselves also.
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Vlad Roudenko
12:03 AM on 02/01/2012
And the West is only too willing to support them in this insane endeavor. Destroying national states is the name of the game.
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peter010908
The easiest way to control people is through fear.
01:32 AM on 02/01/2012
Yeah.

Interesting how they can accept another country being divided but wouldnt accept theirs being divided.
07:20 AM on 02/01/2012
Albanians in Macedonia have been there for many centuries.
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Vlad Roudenko
01:29 PM on 02/01/2012
Granted this is true. That does not mean that EU should be tearing apart states to enlarge a state of another people who already have a homeland of their own.
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peter010908
The easiest way to control people is through fear.
06:20 PM on 02/01/2012
So what... Let me put it another way, if for example the black in America wanted autonomy from the rest of America would Obama give it to them? After all they practically built America when they were slaves, and dont have their own country either.... what about the blacks in the UK.

No politician in the UN would accept dividing their country, but when it came to diviving up someone elses they found it acceptable.
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garypeter
'it's intolerable being tolerated.'
09:47 PM on 01/31/2012
Not a surprise to me that the Christians, disguised in female, Muslim attire, mocked the Quran, a book I am sure they have never read and has more in common with our Bible that they would want to believe. Prophets, Kings, the OT, Jesus, Maria his Mother...all in common, yet they choose to incite riot. Interesting that those violent, horrible Muslim Imams called for peace, though some chose not to, and it ended up with the burning of a circa 2000 yo church, solely because some Christian putz's felt the need to taunt a holy book. Why they choose to do this sort of thing, based solely on religious differences that they don't even understand is always the same, hate and ignorance. Had it been the opposite, people would be calling for the deaths of the Muslims taunt the Bible and applauding those who burnt down the Mosque. The more that people go out of their ways to remain ignorant and incite hatred, the more we are all put in danger, as Macedonia is, now. The land of Alexander the Great, once the most powerful in the world, inciting violence due to religious reasons that no one is even interested in understanding. Ignorance is ignorance, whether it is Orthodox Christians being disrespectful toward a foreign religion, or a minister in Florida who admits to never having read the Quran, having a book burning day. I simply don't understand this sort of behavior and never will, on either side.
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Vlad Roudenko
12:09 AM on 02/01/2012
You made plenty of good points. It's really a shame that both sides stooped so low. Christians acted quite shamefully even though we have so much in common. Muslims should have known better as the prophet clearly forbid destroying houses of God, whether it be a synagogue, church, or a mosque. I think that we need to have a lot more interfaith dialogue to solve such problems. They really have no solid foundation. It's all about ignorance and propaganda. It's really too bad that the letters of protection to Christians issued by the prophet are not so well known nowadays.

http://darvish.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/the-prophets-letters-to-christians/
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garypeter
'it's intolerable being tolerated.'
06:24 PM on 02/01/2012
I agree fully with you, and am shamed that Christians, of which I am one, felt the need to start needling their fellow Macedonians, whether Muslim or Eastern Orthodox and a UNESCO site, a house of God, and I know that you know that whether named; Allah, God, El....He is one and the same. Only difference being language ones, not different entities, like Shiva would be, if we were talking about Hindu. Anger begins, though, when provocateur and all rational gets thrown out the window. These days, whether Christian or Muslim, Scriptures have been rewritten to suit causes that people want to put forth, not the opposite. Scripture should never be changed in order to recruit, blame, ignore...etc. Yes, times have changed and we have interpretations now that differ from those interpreted 1000 years ago, but the basis is still there and the 2 most important rules, whether set forth by Allah or God or Dieu (French) El, Dio (italian)...all the same....to love thy neighbor and to have no God but The God, are still relevant, handed down to us all by Moses. It is amazing to me how people can rewrite their own religions to fit the times, the wars, etc. Yes, certain things should be changed as through science, we know more now and things that were considered tabu, back in the day, we know now are natural ways of being, not learnt or taught. 90% of the problems between religion can be resolved simply by communicating, but
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syntax facit saltum
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01:21 AM on 02/01/2012
It was Carnival, the equivalent of Halloween in some ways here. Do you find it despicably hateful that people dress up like nuns and priests for Halloween in the US? I do find it insensitive in all those cases including what the Orthodox did in Macedonia. However, it wasn't anything like the Florida book burning. That the Orthodox didn't have more sensitivity probably has to do with the fact that they were under the yoke of the Ottoman Empire for ca. 400 years and that is why Islam is in that region at all. The people who are Muslim in that region tend to be descendants of the people who were historically the wealthy and privileged (because the Ottomans excused the wealthy from paying taxes if they converted to Islam).
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Vlad Roudenko
01:26 PM on 02/01/2012
That is true. To some extent the Ottomans did not encourage conversion to Islam as it would have diminished the poll tax base among the non Muslim subjects of the empire. While their achievements were considerable overall, the last few sultans let their empire slip away by ignoring substantial parts of the Quran. At least 3 or 4 of the last sultans were alcoholics. Some of their vassals who ruled the Near East who were actually from the Balkans nearly snatched parts of the empire for themselves. I think that their initial greatness clouded their judgement. Sura 31 ayat 18 is very specific in this regard in its warning:

And do not turn your cheek [in contempt] toward people and do not walk through the earth exultantly. Indeed, Allah does not like everyone self-deluded and boastful.
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garypeter
'it's intolerable being tolerated.'
06:38 PM on 02/01/2012
I used the Florida Book Burning example as I wanted to point out that that minister, as these men dressed in Burka's and making fun of the Quran had something in common, never having read the Quran. I am a Catholic and happened to go to a Catholic university and we had to take 2 theology courses and I studied the Quran in 1 of them. So much in common. I am also aware that the Ottoman Empire extended to Slovenia, miles from the Italian border, but that ended a couple of hundred of years ago so to still fight about that would be like America still fighting with the UK for being a colony of theirs, and treated badly, of years. Would not make sense. Muslims allowed the Christians, under the Ottoman Empire, to go to church if they chose. Religion was not a mandatory thing and people did not need to convert. Halloween is a child's holiday where the goal is candy and if kids dress as nun's or priest's, well, so be it, These men were dressed in female, Muslim dress and taunting the Quran. Whether carnival or not, was inappropriate behavior and these days, when religion is such a sensitive topic, from Dayton to Dubrovnik...they should not have been doing what they did. Not enough room to write it all out here. Just to write something a little lighter...you mention that the Ottomans excused those who converted to Islam......reminds me of how the GOP, in the
06:32 PM on 01/31/2012
Islam cannot survive ridicule: http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/02/some-very-enlightening-thoughts-from.html
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Vlad Roudenko
07:03 PM on 01/31/2012
Christians who consider themselves to be infidels are incredibly ignorant. Are they saying that they do not believe in God? Are they in fact atheists?

You picked a rather biased source to convey your message. Ignorant people have no hope of having a civilized discussion about Islam. All they are capable of is making attacks without any factual basis. Our faith is strong. No one is going to give up Islam because of ridicule and flimsy attacks from mental midgets. There are a few apostates, but there are far more converts every year. Those haters are just getting desperate.
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Semprini
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07:58 PM on 01/31/2012
Nothing to say about this violence?
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09:16 PM on 01/31/2012
Muslims apparently lack a sense of humor and react with violence to anyone whom they think is "mocking" their faith, even other Muslims. Get a grip.
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BurtonDesque
Fear a Blank Planet
02:12 PM on 01/31/2012
As usual, as Hitch used to say, "Religion poisons everything".