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S&P/Case-Shiller November 2011: Home Prices Dropped For Third Straight Month In Nearly All Cities

Spcase Shiller November 2011

By DEREK KRAVITZ   01/31/12 02:30 PM ET  AP

WASHINGTON -- U.S. home prices fell for a third straight month in nearly all cities tracked by a major index. The declines show that most homeowners are not reaping the benefits from some signs of an improving housing market.

Prices dropped in November from October in 19 of the 20 cities tracked, according to the Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller home-price index released Tuesday. The steepest declines were in Atlanta, Chicago and Detroit. Phoenix was the only city to show an increase.

The declines partly reflect the typical fall slowdown after the peak buying season.

Still, prices fell in 18 of the 20 cities in November compared to the same month in 2010. Only Washington and Detroit posted year-over-year increases.

Prices in Atlanta, Las Vegas, Seattle and Tampa dropped to their lowest points since the housing crisis began. And prices have fallen 33 percent nationwide since the housing bust, to 2003 levels.

"The trend is down and there are few, if any, signs in the numbers that a turning point is close at hand," said David M. Blitzer, chairman of the S&P's index committee.

The Case-Shiller index covers half of all U.S. homes. It measures prices compared with those in January 2000 and creates a three-month moving average. The November data are the latest available.

Home values remain depressed despite some hopeful signs at the end of last year.

Sales of previously occupied homes rose in the last three months. Homebuilders are more optimistic after seeing more people express interest in buying this year. And home construction picked up in the final quarter of last year, which helped housing contribute to broader economic growth.

Home prices tend to follow sales, which are still below healthy levels. And a large number of vacant homes are sitting idle on the market, which means prices will likely stay unchanged for several years, said Paul Dales, senior U.S. economist at Capital Economics.

"The most likely scenario in the U.S. is that in 2012 prices will bob around a bit, with one month's gain being reversed the next month," Dales said. "But in general, over the next couple of years, house prices will do nothing more than remain broadly stable."

Dales said prices might not rise consistently until 2015. He said lower unemployment and better pay raises are essential to a full housing rebound.

Among other improvements needed:

_ The supply of homes for sale must decline further. The inventory fell in November to a seven-month supply, although a healthy supply is about six months.

_ Sales need to rise consistently and more first-time buyers must drive the increases. First-time buyers stay longer and invest in their homes, which helps neighboring home values rise.

_ More young people and immigrants must buy. Declining immigration and a rise in renting has hampered home sales.

_ More than a million homes at risk of foreclosure must be cleared from the market. Many are in limbo because a government investigation into questionable mortgage lending practices, which has dragged on for more than a year.

_ Banks must further loosen lending requirements.

Conditions are improving for those in position to buy a home. Job growth is up, prices are down, mortgage rates are at record lows and rental prices have risen sharply since the housing bust.

Still, many people can't afford to buy or are unable to qualify for mortgage. Some people in position to buy are holding off, worried that prices could fall even further.

Many economists say the U.S. could be experiencing what similarly occurred in Britain in the 1990s, when it took four years for home prices to rise again after falling prices left homeowners with little financial equity in their homes.

"Most house price measures have looked pretty weak lately even though some other housing indicators have improved in recent months," said Daniel Silver, an analyst at JPMorgan Chase, adding that there is "not enough momentum in the housing market yet to drive up prices."

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WASHINGTON -- U.S. home prices fell for a third straight month in nearly all cities tracked by a major index. The declines show that most homeowners are not reaping the benefits from some signs of an ...
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sanfran55
04:35 PM on 01/31/2012
In some areas, like San Fran and LA areas, the prices still need to drop a whole lot more...
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Jarrod Putnam
And so long as men die, liberty will never perish
02:38 PM on 01/31/2012
It blows my mind when locally, I see woods being cleared so new houses to be built, yet remain empty for quite some time. All the while, for sale signs pop up in front of houses all around town.
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worker beenumbed
02:02 PM on 01/31/2012
The monthly supply is declining.Rents are supporting the market
02:36 PM on 01/31/2012
There are 25 MILLION excess empty housing units so "the supply" has alot of declining to do.

Rental rates are falling irrespective of location.
01:15 PM on 01/31/2012
Homeowners can thank their local Real Estate agents for the loss in their homes value.

Keep in mind. Its your Realtor who places the value on your home to begin with. Now if sellers start offering a flat 3% commission to Real Estate agents, homeowners just might see an overall increase in their homes value.

Don't forget. A Real Estate agent makes their money on a commission basis. So, you can bet your home is going to be priced so it sells. And don't let a Real Estate agent talk you into paying closing costs for your potential buyer. That's money out of your pocket, not the agents.
01:28 PM on 01/31/2012
EXACTLY.

Realtors cannot be trusted.
02:36 PM on 01/31/2012
So the global housing fraud was the result of "local govt's"????

You're deluded.
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
01:30 PM on 01/31/2012
It's local government that appraises value for tax purposes, not realtors.
02:41 PM on 01/31/2012
WRONG.

Local govt ASSESS not appraise. Lying realtors inflate prices and you know it.

Stop misinforming HP readers.
01:14 PM on 01/31/2012
Prices are heading down down down!

Why buy a house today when you can buy later after prices crater 65%?
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
12:54 PM on 01/31/2012
Dropped in October thru December???

Shocking!!!!
08:54 PM on 01/31/2012
And in Dimmievilles?
12:33 PM on 01/31/2012
That's great news, people!
11:41 AM on 01/31/2012
Watch prices crater. Then buy later.

And NEVER trust a realtor. EVER.
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RhiannonRings
Childfree and loving it!
12:12 PM on 01/31/2012
Waiting for IndyFem to chime in here...!
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
01:28 PM on 01/31/2012
People are losing their life savings as this happens. It's not funny.
01:29 PM on 01/31/2012
That's what you get for believing the lie that housing is somehow and investment. Housing depreciates ALWAYS.
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carolgregor
11:21 AM on 01/31/2012
With half the public broke, who can move, buy or invest? These statistics seem to ignore the human tragedy behind foreclosures and the loss of middle class wealth. We are in a depression regardless of what quantifiable studies are taken. No equity, unaffordable medical expenses, food quality and cost and lack of capital in industry, sucked out by Investors has left us broke. These kind of circumstances are what happened when our ancestors left England in search of a new democratic life. Unfortunately, as warned, man is a greedy sociopathic mammal who has once again forgotten that individual success is impossible without all of us.
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Joseph Joyal
retired bum
11:05 AM on 01/31/2012
If you ask a Realtor they will tell you other wise. Realtors are as much to blame as the banks for the real estate mess.
The housing market is going to be a reflection of the job market, simple economics of supply and demand will tell you if people are not working or making enough money they will not buy what they do not need, and while we need housing we can rent or stay where we are and not make that purchase.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
12:55 PM on 01/31/2012
" Realtors are as much to blame as the banks for the real estate mess."

No they aren't. That's a ridiculous statement.

That's like blaming the salesman at the automotive dealership for a defect in your new car.
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Joseph Joyal
retired bum
01:00 PM on 01/31/2012
It was the realtors that benefited from inflated pricing, most help to get unequalified buyers mortgages.
01:13 PM on 01/31/2012
You are correct.

The Lying Realtor Crime Syndicate was the front line of the Great Housing Fraud.

Realtors are being investigated and indicted right now.
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
01:25 PM on 01/31/2012
Telling someone they can afford something they obviously can't isn't a crime, but it's also not ethical. However, the mortgage people are the ones who allowed people to get in over their heads by processing the loans. Then add in the Wall Street speculators. So, there are enough characters to blame in this sad mess.
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Norma Ward
11:03 AM on 01/31/2012
Here is an article that shows the top 20 most affordable and least affordable real estate markets in the United States when measured using the ratio of median price to median household income:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2012/01/housing-affordability-in-united-states.html

While price corrections have resulted in affordable housing in 55 percent of markets, the remainder are still considered unaffordable to varying degrees.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
12:57 PM on 01/31/2012
Faved for providing FACTS.
01:23 PM on 01/31/2012
...... and housing is going to get alot more affordable over the coming years.

Why buy now? Buy later after prices crater.