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Joanna Brooks Discusses Mormonism, American Politics

Joanna Brooks

First Posted: 02/ 1/2012 5:57 pm Updated: 02/ 1/2012 5:57 pm

By Lauren Markoe
Religion News Service

(RNS) Joanna Brooks is not what most people imagine when they think "Mormon."

She is too liberal to support fellow Mormon Mitt Romney, she's married to a Jew and is pursuing a career as a writer, commentator and English professor at San Diego State University.

In her writing at Religion Dispatches, Brooks specializes in explaining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to non-Mormons, and in presenting a different way to be Mormon to those steeped in its orthodoxy.

She reveals the roots of her spirituality and politics in her recent book, "The Book of Mormon Girl." Brooks talked about Mormonism, the presidential primary and her interfaith family. Some answers have been edited for length and clarity.

Q: Why is America so admiring of and yet so weirded out by Mormons?

A: Mormons founded our own theocracy in the American West and began re-assimilating into the United States in the early 20th century as conservative, patriotic citizens. We tried very hard to pass. We combined that drive to assimilate with a pioneer work ethic and a sense of the importance of family -- and we've turned out some pretty dynamite-looking people. All of our most famous people have these big, shiny families who present well and achieve high.

At the same time there's a deep-seated American perception of Mormons as a heretical, renegade, insular sect. Polygamy can't be understated. I'm routinely shocked by surveys that come out showing that 60 percent of Americans are unsure whether or not we still practice polygamy. There's a lot of tension and shame about our polygamist past -- I think disproportionate shame. I mean, come on, it's polygamy -- it's not the end of the world.

Q: Does this mean Mitt Romney, a Mormon, can't get elected president?

A: Yeah, he can. Absolutely, though data we have on anti-Mormonism is not good. Polling firms ask "Would you be comfortable voting for a Mormon?" But no one asks "Why?" Democrats are going to say no because many accurately understand the LDS church's record on gay rights and women's issues and race is conservative. That's not anti-Mormon, that's anti-conservative.

On the right, there are evangelical reservations about Mormons. Some will refuse to vote for Romney, and they'll get a lot of press coverage. But others will do what they feel is in the best interest of the party because partisanship is ultimately stronger than sectarianism in this country.

Q: Which discussions of Mormonism in this campaign have bugged you?

A: There are large daily newspapers of record that regularly run pieces on Mormonism that are wrong -- wrong in fact, wrong in implication. There are respected LDS and non-LDS scholars of Mormonism out there who are not called upon and should be part of the conversation. And I'm not talking about myself.

There was a terrible piece a few weeks ago about race and Mormonism, that Mormonism is the whitest church ever. Yeah, it's pretty white. But most churches are fairly segregated in this country. It said Mormonism's vision is all for white people. That's just patently untrue. This is a church that is trying to spread itself all over the developing world.

Q: You're an outspoken feminist and supporter of gay rights. How do you reconcile that with the LDS church's traditional views of women and its work against gay civil rights?

A: Women in polygamous Utah enjoyed political rights, a level of visibility and access to education far greater than that of a lot of women in the late 19th century. Many worked alongside suffragettes. A lot of us look back at our pioneer foremothers and their physical and spiritual acts of bravery and draw a lot of inspiration.

I see a lot of movement among Mormons in dealing with gay issues. Just a few days ago I got an email from a pastor in Salt Lake City who runs programs for gay homeless youth. Who at her shelter is serving meals to homeless gay kids, many of who come from Mormon families? Straight Mormon families.

Q: Your husband is Jewish, but the LDS church teaches that only Mormons spouses can be "sealed" together in the afterlife. Do you worry about what will become of your marriage in the hereafter?

A: We're not really worried about that. If there was a reform branch of Mormonism, that would be the best way to describe me. I am a believer, but I tend to sort of hold off on a literal view on many things. I defer to the big sense of God that I learn from my tradition. God is merciful, eternity is a long time and things will work out for all of us.

Q: So how are you raising your two children?

A: Our children, 6 and 8, go to both Hebrew school and "Primary," LDS Sunday school. They have twice as much to learn as the other kids. The path we're taking makes some people uncomfortable, but generally people are supportive of us trying to educate our children as our consciences lead us. We love both of our traditions and it just didn't feel right to closet one.

Q: You brought it up so now we have to ask. Why is it that so many Mormons are, as you put it, "dynamite-looking?"

A: The orthodox Mormon would say of course we're good looking -- that's what happens when you take care of your body by not drinking and smoking. But anyone who thinks we're all good-looking just needs to meet more Mormons.

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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
03:39 PM on 03/10/2012
While Joanna Brooks may claim the Mormon church, you can bet that the Mormon church does not claim her in return.
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beegee21
12:13 AM on 08/10/2012
Correct! Brooks said in ain interview that the Mormon church excommunicated her.
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heiko
08:23 PM on 02/21/2012
There is no doubt in my mind smith started a cult, the amazing thing is that he has duped so many people.
11:24 AM on 02/07/2012
What an interesting person! I am also a devout Mormon with Jewish heritage that happens to be liberal. It's hard for people to understand that I believe that I can disagree with some of my church leadership's "political opinions" and still believe that they are prophets. Basically, I believe in all of our church doctrine with all of my heart, but when it comes to political stances, I don't always see it the same, which is okay. Our leadership has always told us that we are to vote according to our own conscience, not according to the Republican party. Unfortunately, most members of my church ARE republican and think you have to be politically conservative to be Mormon. I have always loved my church leadership and they have always respected my opinions, even if they disagree. The important thing (to me) is that we believe in the same plan of salvation, the same gospel of Jesus Christ, and the same restoration of the Gospel on the Earth. I know a lot of you are thinking, "How does this guy (or the woman in this article) think he can pick and choose what he believes...." .....listen...I believe in the separation of church and state, so please don't judge my spiritual beliefs by my political opinions (and vice-versa).
11:01 PM on 02/05/2012
"There's a lot of tension and shame about our polygamist past -- I think disproportionate shame. I mean, come on, it's polygamy -- it's not the end of the world." It certainly would seem like the end of the world if you're a 13-year-old forced to "marry" a man 2 to 3 times your age. It's abuse of both women and girls.
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jeeimu
08:09 AM on 02/06/2012
i am an ex-mormon and generally anti-mormon, but even i have to point out that those are not the mormons who are forcing teen marriages - they're part of a spin-off sect and would be excommunicated from the mainstream lds church for doing such horrible things.
09:53 PM on 02/06/2012
Yes, I know that it's an off-shoot "but she made light of polygamy and talked about it being in the past when it's still going on. Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped by a Fundamentalist Mormon sect.
04:25 PM on 02/05/2012
With all due respect, I don't find anything to admire about this woman. In fact, it seems rather hypocritical to me that she can remain a Mormon simply in light of their stance on homosexuality. The only true consequence is to leave the church altogether. I wish so much that Christians and adherents to other religions could take a step back, be as objective as possible and realize that the only intelligent course of action is to remove oneself from organized religion and perhaps belief of any sort.
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jeeimu
08:10 AM on 02/06/2012
a large part of why i left when i was a teenager. i could not reconcile what i KNEW to be right with what the church demanded i believe.
06:58 PM on 02/06/2012
There is always a belief. It is not possible to make this separation. You are making the assumption, I believe, that all people who belong to a church are inherently bad. Bigotry is not unique to religion. It is a human condition. I know many atheists who believe African Americans are sub-human, and that the underprivileged have caused their own problems. Conversely, I know of many christian churches who set up soup kitchens for the homeless. Do not judge religion on the actions of the few vocal radicals who spit out hate and any who oppose them. There is no such think as objectivity. Everybody perceives the world around them based on their experiences and biases. Non-religions people can be just as dogmatic as religions people.
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eliasasm
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01:15 PM on 02/05/2012
"There was a terrible piece a few weeks ago about race and Mormonism, that Mormonism is the whitest church ever. Yeah, it's pretty white. But most churches are fairly segregated in this country. It said Mormonism's vision is all for white people. That's just patently untrue. This is a church that is trying to spread itself all over the developing world." FAIL

"...their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people." Book of Mormon
02:11 PM on 02/05/2012
This language is also found in the bible and is referring to their countenance rather than their skin color. I do not know of any African Americans that have scales of darkness over their eyes. The largest growth in the Unites States in the church has been with non-Europe ethnic groups such as those of African and Asian descent. In Vancouver, most congregations are only 30% caucasion.
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eliasasm
itsgoingtobeabumpyride
02:43 PM on 02/05/2012
Do you have a point?
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Eric N Davis
If a button needs pushing, I'll be there.
07:05 PM on 02/04/2012
The vast majority conservatives (like Romney) claim to be Christian. Other than a cross, what is the universal symbol for Christianity? A fish. What happens to a fish when it is caught, and under pressure? It flips and flops about until it is either back in comfortable surroundings, or it dies.

Any questions?
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Eric N Davis
If a button needs pushing, I'll be there.
06:04 PM on 02/04/2012
"... though data we have on anti-Mormonism is not good... That's not anti-Mormon, that's anti-conservative."

This is one of the biggest problems the Mormon church has today. They are in the business of making and labeling their enemies. And if anyone states an opinion that can in any way be perceived as contrary to the teachings of the church, Mormons are far too quick to slap the "anti-Mormon" label on them. This isn't just a problem in Mormonism, it's a problem in religion in general. Religion is all about defining what is good and what is evil, and as such is merely reinforcing ancient concepts of tribal identity and the enemies not of the tribe. Religion does not now, nor ever will bring the world together in peace. Religion only divides people, by promoting the so-called "good" guys, and demonizing the "bad" guys.

I'm not going to sit here and let people place me in their boxes with their ridiculous labels.
I'm not "anti-Mormon", I'm pro-reality.
I'm not "anti-conservative", I'm pro-progress.
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COPESTIR3
07:51 PM on 02/04/2012
great post
02:12 PM on 02/05/2012
And yet you are labeling mormons and other christians. How ironic.
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Eric N Davis
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05:01 PM on 02/05/2012
and which label did I use for Mormons?
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Eric N Davis
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05:44 PM on 02/04/2012
"Women in polygamous Utah enjoyed political rights... far greater than that of a lot of women in the late 19th century."

FALSE
While Utah polygamists did fight hard for women's voting rights, prior to 1890, it had NOTHING to do with the WOMEN having rights to anything. Brigham Young, et al, were not idiots. And the men in leadership positions in the church had numerous wives, most of whom were entirely submissive to their husbands' demands. If women were granted permission to vote in elections, the Mormon leadership knew that meant that would give them each as many votes as they had wives, because the women would vote for whomever their husbands commanded them to vote.

Voting rights for women in Utah were not about the women having rights, it was always about the men having even more power.
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COPESTIR3
08:02 PM on 02/04/2012
Still, some of the women fought for sufferage for the dignity of it. Even if the Mormorn power structure thought they could be used. In fact, my great grand mother , I am proud to say, wrote how she felt that it was important to use their egos to get what she wanted for women's rights.By 1890 the poor treatment of women was preventing statehood. Women were granted the vote second to Wyoming as a PR move. Still, the Femenist movement continued, granny made sure all 13 of her children were college educated and professionals by 1920. She empowered each one of them. "Never loose your voice, your vote," her journals repeat.
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Eric N Davis
If a button needs pushing, I'll be there.
08:36 PM on 02/04/2012
Congratulations to your GGM for standing up for herself. Sadly, though, I think her position was in the minority among Mormons, in that day. Even more sadly, it still is.
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Dougtheavenger
religious bigotry is not progressive
12:31 PM on 02/04/2012
LDS church leaders in the early days of the church made statements that might easily be described as socialist. Yet Mormons today are not accused of being socialists.
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evgolightly
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12:58 AM on 02/04/2012
Mitt Romney is not a casual observer of Mormonism. He was a high Bishop, ruling over thousands of followers and making decisions regarding their worthiness. His religion is an integral part of who he is, how he thinks, and how he will govern.

He was 32 years old by the time the church decided to allow black members into the fold (called "priesthood" after one has had a temple ceremony). He was taught to believe that dark skin was the mark of a sinner. He was taught to believe that gays are immoral and watched as they were ostracized and tossed out of the Church.

Does he believe that he becomes a God and gets his own planet to rule over with his celestial wife who will produce more and more offspring for eternity?

Does he believe that the rest of us are beneath him, and that it's acceptable to lie to nonbelievers, but not to fellow Mormons? (I suspect that he does, which is how he justifies his ever-changing positions).

Will he deliberately appoint Mormons into positions of power in the State Department with the intention of spreading the word? He had all five of his sons spread the word all over the world, so this is a fair question.

The American people are going to ask these questions and a hundred more. We are talking about the President of the United States here.
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whirlpool
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11:11 AM on 02/04/2012
To think he will not be influenced by his church is extremely naive given the imprinting male Mormons receive throughout their life that entitles them to make judgments and control the fate of others.
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Dougtheavenger
religious bigotry is not progressive
12:41 PM on 02/04/2012
On what basis do you claim that a priesthood restricted to some lineage or lineages is racist?

The priesthood you speak of is the Aaronic/Levitical priesthood. Today, only Mormons and Jews claim to have it. Over 99% of Jews are inelligable to hold the Aaronic/Levitical priesthood because they do not belong to the lineage required according to their beliefs. Even in the Mormon faith, certain ordinances that are not now performed but that will at some future date be performed can only be done by literal descendents of Levi.
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evgolightly
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02:42 PM on 02/04/2012
Your reply has nothing to do with my post.
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Eric N Davis
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06:14 PM on 02/04/2012
Just because Mormons and Jews believe their god wants them to do things a certain way does not make them NOT racist. It simply means that the Mormon and Jewish god IS racist, and picks favorites. I don't want any part of believing in a god that picks favorites among ALL of his children.

If you have children, would you force them out of your house for disobeying you?
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whirlpool
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09:45 PM on 02/03/2012
There are some "liberal" and intellectual Mormons. Terry Tempest Williams a world class author is a case in point. In fact I don't see how she has escaped excommunication. A few of the Mormons I grew up with are very rational people and don't like the stand the church takes on certain issues. But I think they are in it because of family tradition and a sense of community. The best neighbors I have had are Mormons. But I absolutely do not trust the male hierarchy of the church.
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
07:10 PM on 02/03/2012
There is indeed a reform branch of Mormonism, it is called the Community of Christ. It used to be called the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, until it became quite liberal and ecumenical, and decided to change its name to reflect that. They have even decided several years ago to allow women into the priesthood, and one result was that many more conservative Reorganized believers left the church, and some others don't acknowledge the leadership or the name change, but are afraid to leave the church so they would not lose salvation. This church has become also more willing to accept the idea of errors in the scriptures, even the idea that there was not an Israelite migration to America as the Book of Mormon teaches. But a problem is that predominantly liberal denominations have been losing members, it is not only the Community of Christ. For example the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, etc. They are losing some members to fundamentalist churches, some to agnosticism, and they have smaller families, not believing in the command to multiply.
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COPESTIR3
07:39 PM on 02/03/2012
great posts TomMartin fanned and faved
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Yorksgal
'Conservative Christian' is a complete oxymoron.
07:59 PM on 02/03/2012
"....not believing in the command to multiply." At least we can thank God for that.

Thanks for the info.
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Yorksgal
'Conservative Christian' is a complete oxymoron.
06:29 PM on 02/03/2012
I have met nice and good people from all over the world and who have worshiped different religions. I don't mind learning about different religions, but I draw the line at being talked to every minute about converting to a religion I don't want to be part of and that was Mormonism.

Definitely, Mormons have different believes to other religions. They believe that the god of this universe is a flesh and blood man who at one time lived on another planet and became a god. He, as a god, was then sent to this Earth to be our god, accompanied by his goddess wife.

Jesus is a result of the above god having sex with Mary. Lucifer/Satan is believed to be Jesus' brother.

It is also okay to re-baptize the dead into the Mormon religion - even though this practice has been said to be discontinued, it has not.

What is sad is that Joanna's husband and children are not able enter a Mormon temple. Regardless of what she states, she probably would be ostracized in many Mormon circles.

As for the living a good clean life - go to the casinos on the Nevada/Utah border and you will see that ain't so.
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Eric N Davis
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06:41 PM on 02/04/2012
"...Joanna's husband and children are not able enter a Mormon temple. ...she probably would be ostracized in many Mormon circles."

Case in point: I was a Mormon several years ago when I married my Mormon wife. Early in our marriage, I was told by multiple members of her family, that I was their favorite in-law. 3 years ago, after some serious soul searching, and intensive reading and research, I determined Mormonism was a fraud, and had my name removed from church records. My wife decided she also no longer believes in the church, but is still listed on the rolls. In the past 2 years, I'm no longer invited to any of my in-law's family events, and several members of that family have told my wife that she should get divorced, and come live with them, so she can get back into church.

I have participated in multiple online forums and chat groups for people who have left the Mormon church, and my experience is far from unique. I've heard numerous similar stories in these groups. Many mormons promote divorce if a spouse does not observe the beliefs of the faith.

And all this coming from the church that has so-called strong "family values", and believes that "families can be together forever." It's all bull$#!+. Mormons only believe in family values if EVERY person in the family is Mormon. If you aren't then you must be kicked to the curb.
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COPESTIR3
08:26 PM on 02/04/2012
As to family values, because of the practice of calling male to service, the fathers can almost appear absent, (except of one night a week of family evening) Having one or maore parents gone all the time honoring their calling is hard on families.
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Yorksgal
'Conservative Christian' is a complete oxymoron.
11:47 AM on 02/05/2012
Thank you for sharing that - it must be hard for you going through this and then been turned away from those who you thought were good friends and relations.
I hope you and your wife have many happy years together and go from strength to strength.
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COPESTIR3
05:48 PM on 02/03/2012
If women have it so great in this church, how come the use of anti-depressants is so high?
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Eric N Davis
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06:49 PM on 02/04/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-11-28-depression-suicide-numbers_N.htm

This report is from 2007, but numbers in other years are quite similar.

Utah has the highest rate of depression in the US, and 7th highest rate of suicide. You'd think that if Mormonism was god's plan for HAPPINESS, then Utah, which has a significantly higher percentage of Mormon population than any other state, would reflect that happiness by having far fewer suicides and cases of depression than the national average. But just the opposite is the case.