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Facebook S-1 Filing Raises Question Of How Facebook Will Increase Profits Without Losing Users

Facebook S1 Filing

By MICHAEL LIEDTKE   02/ 2/12 05:47 PM ET  AP

SAN FRANCISCO -- For all the huge numbers in Facebook's IPO papers, a surprisingly small figure stands out: $4.39, the amount the site generated per user last year.

It's one of the company's major challenges because the total is paltry compared with competing Internet companies. Google makes more than $30 a year from each registered user. Even struggling Yahoo and AOL make $7 and $10, respectively.

Once Facebook goes public, Wall Street will surely demand more. That means the social network will almost certainly have to attract a lot more users or be more aggressive with its advertising, perhaps by mining personal data even more than it does now.

But can Facebook do all that without spoiling the user experience?

The company may have a tough time increasing the number of ads on a site that has become primarily a home for online conversations.

"It's a communications tool. Can you imagine what a turn-off it would be if we were talking on the phone and AT&T tried to play an ad in the middle of our conversation?" said University of Notre Dame finance professor Tim Loughran, who studies IPOs.

Facebook stock probably won't begin trading until at least May, but analysts already believe the company will try to sell shares at a price that will give it a market value of at least $100 billion – more than Yahoo, AOL and Hewlett Packard Co. combined.

To justify a valuation like that, Facebook will need to maximize its revenue to get closer to Google, one of its biggest rivals. Google's revenue of nearly $38 billion last year translated into about $35 per registered user.

Facebook recorded $3.7 billion in revenue last year.

The question is whether it can bring in more money without alienating the 845 million users who have become accustomed to hanging out with friends and family on the social network without an onslaught of ads.

Part of that online environment has been by design. Facebook co-founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg wanted to get as many as people as possible to create profiles on the website before figuring out the best ways to profit from all the information about their interests and connections.

In theory, those insights should enable Facebook to target ads to people most likely to be interested in certain products or services. That should appeal to marketers, giving the site enough leverage to charge more for its ads than other sites. If the ads work, Facebook should easily be able to increase revenue per user to $10 to $12 annually, said Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter.

Before Google went public, it also faced questions about its ability to make money from selling ads next to search results, in emails and within videos. Evidently most users don't mind because Google's annual revenue is now about 25 times higher than in 2003.

Advertising isn't the only way Facebook can make money. It charges a commission for some of the sales of games and other services on its website. Although advertising accounted for 85 percent of Facebook's revenue last year, that was less than at Google, where ads accounted for 96 percent of revenue.

Most of Facebook's non-advertising revenue comes from commissions paid by Zynga Inc., the maker of such popular Web games as CityVille and Words With Friends. In its IPO papers, Facebook says it may try to increase its revenue by introducing fees for other e-commerce features on its website.

Facebook, which is based in Menlo Park, Calif., easily could offer sales of movies, music, even houses and cars. But believing it can expand into those markets requires a huge leap of faith, said Hudson Square Research analyst Daniel Ernst.

"It's like saying because Chipotle has been good at selling burritos in certain urban markets in the U.S., it should be able to make more money selling Chinese food in France," he said.

Facebook says roughly half its audience – about 425 million people – now gets access to its service on smartphones, tablet computers and other mobile devices. But the site acknowledges it hasn't figured out the best way to make money from mobile users.

The application-driven systems on mobile devices pose another threat because they could allow Zynga and other services to offer their own mobile apps to bypass Facebook and connect directly with users.

The rise of mobile devices also opens up an opportunity for Google to expand the audience of Plus, its social networking alternative to Facebook. Although it hasn't done so yet, Google could make Plus part of the Android operating system that runs 250 million smartphones and tablets.

Zuckerberg, Facebook's controlling shareholder as well as its leader, is promising to put users' interests ahead of the company's financial interests.

"Simply put: We don't build services to make money; we make money to build better services," Zuckerberg wrote in a letter included in Wednesday's IPO filing. "These days, I think more and more people want to use services from companies that believe in something beyond simply maximizing profits."

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AP Technology Writer Barbara Ortutay in New York contributed to this report.

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11:24 PM on 03/07/2012
Facebook is old, old news. Diaspora is the place to be. No one collects my info, no ads, and I can use whatever name I want...even boogersnot if that's the name I like. Screw you FB.
10:54 AM on 02/09/2012
Note to self: Short FB stock as soon as possible. The novelty has worn off. The interface is clunky. The gaggle of dissenters is growing. Facebook is AOL circa 1995.

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Arn Arn
01:42 PM on 02/03/2012
LOL All you facebook losers will be paying to use the site very soon. Bow down before Mark Zuckerburg, your god! LOL
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lilipilicious
12:49 PM on 02/03/2012
Billions of dollars for what? Facebook doesnt produce anything, it hasnt invented a cure for cancer or HIV or other terminal illnesses, it didnt create an extraordinary piece of technology that can send manned missions to the moon or mars or close the hole in the ozone layer or reverse climate change or replace fossil fuels or anything really to enrich humanity in any way. And these people become multi millionaires and billionaires? While the cancer researcher cant do his work due to lack of funding? And tens of thousands of children alone in the US are going hungry every day, not to mention the millions around the world? Yes yes it is their money and god forbid we dont endorse pure, unadulterated greed around here, but this is just not right. The money and tax breaks pouring into Facebok after the IPO deal dont create jobs or enrich human kind, these people are just pocketing the money through advertisement - by stealing our info and selling it to companies;

There is something fundamentally wrong with the way things are going and ultimately these very things will be our undoing. I think Madonna summed up the mentality correctly when discussing her tour and the ticket prices when addressing fans:

"So start saving your pennies now. People spend $300 on crazy things all the time, things like handbags. So work all year, scrape the money together, and come to my show. I’m worth it.”

Amen.
12:45 PM on 02/03/2012
I do NOT use Facebook and the CEO for Facebook has been hauled into Congress how many times now? He has problems with security and it was so bad that Congress finally hauled Zuckerburg before them to explain his actions. truth be told, Facebook is just as vulnerable now as it was then. Mark could care less about online security as has been shown. It's all about the money and greed. Mark screwed his own buddys in college and his word means NOTHING. Buy Facebook stock? Buyer beware.
12:14 PM on 02/03/2012
This is going to be very interesting to watch ( as I have no intention of buying, and all buyers should beware!)
Several years ago Palm was another IPO that was highly anticipated and within a short time started to tank for anyone who first bought in.
11:57 AM on 02/03/2012
The success of Facebook is proof that suckers are born every minute. There is an overload of options available now.
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MiMi LLawsonn
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11:36 AM on 02/03/2012
Google.....a 42 second google was the EVIDENCE which convicted a Canadian man last spring of 1st degree murder...and sent him to prison for life without parole...and the very strange and odd thing is the fact that IT WAS NOT PROVED IN COURT THAT HE EVEN DID THE GOOGLE SEARCH...no joke here....for more information....see the following link...http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-736024....you will be SHOCKED at what took place in not only the investigation but the murder trial as well......
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undrgrndgirl
what's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?
11:19 AM on 02/03/2012
it really isn't a matter of whose users are more valuable...i would venture to guess that facebook and google have a significant amount of crossover...they are certainly not exclusive.
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Okey Umez
Yes i. Babylon gwon fall
11:15 AM on 02/03/2012
Google has quite a remarkable track record of earnings over the years. The jury is going to be out on Facebook until a pattern of potential earnings and growth are established. If this sucker goes through, the insiders win big, while mom and pop investors could be left holding the bag. New investors beware.
11:39 AM on 02/03/2012
Very well stated.
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Okey Umez
Yes i. Babylon gwon fall
12:03 PM on 02/03/2012
Thanks.
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Gunderan
Who let the Libertarians out without supervision?
03:37 PM on 02/09/2012
But will Google continue with those earnings?If Congress was not so corrupt Google would be in serious trouble for its antitrust violations. So tragic that nothing has changed over the years companies in the Tech sector have inflated profits built on monopoly pricing holding users data hostage so they can be spammed to death to maintain those profits. Look at Microsoft to see how to avoid antitrust consequences.
No one seems to mention how many people may quit using Google after 1st of March?
ironchefjay2
Good politician = one without a job
10:48 AM on 02/03/2012
Now people are starting to understand that they are being tracked at every turn and that information manipulated to benefit Facebook. My question is when is Facebook going to pay the people it tracks to make money?
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undrgrndgirl
what's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?
11:15 AM on 02/03/2012
never.
10:39 AM on 02/03/2012
Hard to say. Google is going to be losing a lot of business based on its decision to impose tracking on all users. I immediately eliminated google chrome browser (and went with Mozilla Firefox) and any other google link I had other than YouTube. I hate to give up YouTube.
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undrgrndgirl
what's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?
11:20 AM on 02/03/2012
you only need a youtube account if you are posting video or want to comment. you can watch whatever you want without giving up your info.
12:21 PM on 02/03/2012
I understood that google owned or was linked with YouTube (?)
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Gunderan
Who let the Libertarians out without supervision?
03:38 PM on 02/09/2012
You cannot watch age restricted material or subscribe to channels without a youtube account and to get that you need a Gmail account
beverlyamy1
I ALWAYS GET THE LAST WORD.
10:38 AM on 02/03/2012
should call it gossip book.
10:11 AM on 02/03/2012
The problem with Facebook as an advertising platform is that its sharing model does not allow ad placement algorithms to draw strong conclusions about whether incoming items are actually relevant to the user, much less whether they are relevant to the user at a given moment in time. Facebook does not give users expressive or convenient tools for curating incoming items.

The ultimate strength of Google as an advertising platform is that the ad placement algorithms can draw very strong conclusions about the user's interests and intentions at a particular moment in time based on whatever they type in the search field. The index-query model gives users a very expressive and convenient way of curating incoming items.

A lot of bloggers and analysts focus on Facebook's outgoing curation as a source of user data for ad placement. But a user's shared items and friends only allow Facebook to build a general impression of the user, and even then, this profile is subject to distortion by self-consciousness, pretense, and other social biases which affect outgoing curation.

Besides privacy concerns, the major complaint that users have about Facebook is that they get bombarded with way too many irrelevant items. This is not only a problem for users; this is also a problem for advertisers. And now it's a problem for investors as well.
10:01 AM on 02/03/2012
puts *as* information