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Porites Coral Growth Impacted More By Ocean Temperature Change Than Acidification

  Posted: 02/ 3/2012 5:03 pm

By David Biello
(Click here for original article.)

One of the biggest natural tragedies of recent years is the deterioration of Australia's Great Barrier Reef, a vast structure of coral off the continent's east coast that supports a profusion of wildlife. In addition to overfishing and nutrient pollution, the world's largest natural structure has suffered from rising ocean temperatures. But, perhaps less well known, Australia's west coast has some massive reefs of its own, offshore in the southeastern Indian Ocean. Massive stony corals of the genus Porites swell to the surface, and new research published February 2 in Science suggests those located in the colder waters farthest south are growing better than ever -- thanks to warming ocean temperatures.

"Where we see strong warming, there is a marked response," says marine scientist Timothy Cooper of the Australian Institute of Marine Science. "To date, it is the changes in temperature that are having the dominant impact on coral growth as evidenced by the increasing calcification rates at our southernmost locations."

The findings suggest that temperature changes play a bigger role, at least in the near term, in the fate of corals than any ocean acidification -- where rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are absorbed into seawater, rendering it more acidic.

Corals -- microscopic polyps -- build reefs by pulling calcium from the surrounding water and using it to create tiny shell-like homes for themselves, which can accumulate over centuries into massive structures. This process, known as calcification, is sensitive to temperature and acidity, both of which can hinder growth. In addition, the corals themselves are sensitive to temperature, and temperatures that are too warm can lead to so-called coral bleaching events that can kill a reef.

Cooper and his colleagues drilled into reefs of Porites at six locations spanning roughly 1,000 kilometers from north to south off Australia's west coast. They extracted 27 core samples. Each one revealed a record of the annual density of the calcium-based homes of the Porites coral. By comparing the coral's annual rate of calcification to the average density from 1900 to 2010, Cooper and his colleagues revealed when and where any unusual changes occurred. Then the researchers compared that record to the data on monthly sea-surface temperatures to try to understand whether temperature had an impact and, if so, what it was.

They found that those Porites at the southern end of Australia's west coast have been growing thicker and thicker homes in recent decades as the colder ocean water warms. Farther north, the reverse is true: Porites in already warm subtropical and tropical waters suffer as the ocean heats too much. "Where there has been little warming, there has been little change in calcification," Cooper says. "To date, it is the changes in temperature that are having the dominant impact on coral growth as evidenced by the increasing calcification rates at our southernmost locations."

The cores suggest that the increasing acidification of the ocean has had, so far, less impact on coral than temperature has had. Eventually, however, acidification is expected to take a toll on coral growth -- water temperature notwithstanding. "Ocean acidification will increasingly become another limiting factor for growth of tropical coral reefs," Cooper suggests.

But a flaw in this study may prove to be the monthly temperature records used. Corals respond to temperatures on the scale of days or weeks -- hence bleaching events in the Great Barrier Reef or elsewhere in the world—that can then "slow colony growth for years," says marine biologist John Bruno of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who also studies corals but was not involved in this research. "Unfortunately, this [temperature] information does not exist." It is such fine-grained data on local temperature changes that would be needed to better understand how temperature, acidity and coral growth interact, although it is becoming increasingly clear that impacts from warmer ocean temperatures will determine the fate of coral reefs.

It is also clear that both of the impacts of rising human CO2 emissions -- global warming and ocean acidification -- are making life harder on the reef, including rapidly declining growth for Porites coral in the Great Barrier Reef. And there is no easy cure: Bruno's work shows that even marine protected areas, essentially ocean parks, cannot protect reefs from global problems like climate change. As Cooper adds: "Changes such as this with the relatively modest amount of global warming to date -- compared with what is predicted for the next few decades -- is cause for concern."

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By David Biello (Click here for original article.) One of the biggest natural tragedies of recent years is the deterioration of Australia's Great Barrier Reef, a vast structure of coral off t...
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
10:54 AM on 02/09/2012
NOAA:

What is Ocean Acidification?.
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the pH of surface ocean waters has fallen by 0.1 pH units. Since the pH scale, like the Richter scale, is logarithmic, this change represents approximately a 30 percent increase in acidity. Future predictions indicate that the oceans will continue to absorb carbon dioxide and become even more acidic. Estimates of future carbon dioxide levels, based on business as usual emission scenarios, indicate that by the end of this century the surface waters of the ocean could be nearly 150 percent more acidic, resulting in a pH that the oceans haven’t experienced for more than 20 million years...

Coral

Many marine organisms that produce calcium carbonate shells or skeletons are negatively impacted by increasing CO2 levels and decreasing pH in seawater. For example, increasing ocean acidification has been shown to significantly reduce the ability of reef-building corals to produce their skeletons... by the end of this century, coral reefs may erode faster than they can be rebuilt. This could compromise the long-term viability of these ecosystems and perhaps impact the estimated one million species that depend on coral reef habitat.

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F
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Publicola
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05:54 PM on 02/08/2012
The Acid Ocean – the Other Problem with CO2 Emission

David Archer, Ocean Chemist at the University of Chicago
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Acidifying the ocean is particularly detrimental to organisms that secrete shell material made of CaCO3, such as coral reefs and a type of phytoplankton called coccolithophorids. The ocean pH change will persist for thousands of years. Because the fossil fuel CO2 rise is faster than natural CO2 increases in the past, the ocean will be acidified to a much greater extent than has occurred naturally in at least the past 800,000 years…

Coral reefs are built from limestone by the reaction Ca2+ + CO32- == CaCO3, where Ca is calcium. Acidifying the ocean decreases the concentration of CO32- ions, which by le Chatlier’s principal shifts the equilibrium toward the left, tending to dissolve CaCO3. Note that this is a sort of counter-intuitive result, that adding CO2 should make reefs dissolve rather than pushing carbon into making more reefs. It’s all because of those H+ ions...

We should note that for coral reef communities, the acid ocean is only one problem that they face, and it’s not the worst. Rising temperatures are tightly correlated with coral bleaching events, the expulsion of symbiotic algae, often followed by death of the coral. There is a terrifying time-series of temperature and coral bleaching from Tahiti. When you look at the temperatures that killed the coral, and project future temperatures, it looks to be all over for corals.

http://tinyurl.com/y44sg3
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grappler1987
Heaven is a gift, not a reward
08:41 PM on 02/08/2012
Nice post.

"Acidifying the ocean is particular­ly detrimenta­l to organisms that secrete shell material made of CaCO3"

But note that there are several exceptions to this generalization.

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2009/12/01-01.html
http://www.nature.com/climate/2010/1001/full/climate.2010.130.html

This is also an interesting note:
"Although CO2 levels won't rise that high in our lifetime, Ries says they could within 500 to 700 years. The atmosphere did contain that much CO2 during the Cretaceous period about 100 million years ago, Ries says. "This is an interval in which many of these organisms lived and apparently did okay, despite the extremely elevated levels of atmospheric CO2 that existed at that time.""

I'm glad they are continuing their research.
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
09:13 PM on 02/08/2012
Your links are interesting, though they are a bit redundant as they reference the same study.

From the Nature link:

"Blue crabs, lobsters, and shrimp prospered in the highest CO2 level, growing heavier shells, the researchers report today in Geology. Ries says a bulkier shell might be more resistant to crushing by predators. American oysters, scallops, temperate corals, and tube worms all fared poorly and grew thinner, weaker shells. The biggest losers included clams and pencil urchins; their exoskeletons dissolved at the highest CO2 levels."

Again the corals are S.O.L., as are oysters and scallops. And while bulkier shells may make blue crabs, lobsters more resistant to their predators said predators will be adversely impacted too unless and until they evolve correspondingly.

The acidification of the oceans to a much greater extent than has occurred in at least the past 800,000 years if not far longer will certainly create winners and losers in the oceanic ecosystem - an ecosystem that will evolve into something never before witnessed by human civilization.
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grappler1987
Heaven is a gift, not a reward
04:46 PM on 02/08/2012
"As an aside, the neutral point for water is always [note always] lower than 7 when temperatur­­es are above 25 degrees C, just as it is always [note always] higher than 7 when temperatur­es are below 25 degrees C."

While generally true, it is important to note that other variables come to play when talking about ocean water. pH of 7 is neutral at 25 degrees C but that assumes 1 atmosphere of pressure. (For example, at 2 atm, the neutral pH would be below 7 at 25 degrees C.) When dealing with oceans, pressure rises with depth but the temperature drops too. The neutral pH point drops with increasing pressure but rises with colder temperature. They are basically competing when it comes to driving the neutrality of pH. Though nonlinear (and dependent on composition), the neutral pH generally drops with depth relative to the surface.

To bring it all together, tropical warmth and depth help bring the neutral pH down for corals in the tropics. But so what ... the high temperatures are killing the coral in the tropics. And at a secondary level, the lower alkalinity of the water at depth is harmful to coral too.

In the article, it shows how tropical corals are suffering and higher latitude corals are improving (possibly). Temperature is dominating both results.
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
05:33 PM on 02/08/2012
grappler1987: "ocean water. pH of 7 is neutral at 25 degrees C"

Again after numerous posts where you repeatedly claimed that the neutral point is 7.0 you now understand­ that the neutral point is temperatur­e-dependen­t - congrats.

grappler1987: "but that assumes 1 atmosphere of pressure"

Correct; i was assuming 1 atm. By the way: do you now understand now that the neutral point is not only dependent on temperature bu that it can even exceed 7.5, or will you continue to refuse to acknowledge that you were wrong?

Grappler: "To bring it all together, tropical warmth and depth help bring the neutral pH down for corals in the tropics. But so what"

Got straw man? Yup.

Grappler: "the high temperatur­es are killing the coral in the tropics. . And at a secondary level, the lower alkalinity of the water at depth is harmful to coral too."

While the scientific evidence suggests that temperatur­e may be the more important issue with respect to coral reefs "at least in the near term", as the article goes on to say:

"Eventuall­y, however, acidificat­ion is expected to take a toll on coral growth -- water temperatur­e notwithsta­nding."

And again we are talking specifical­ly here about coral - not other oceanic ecosystem impacts.
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grappler1987
Heaven is a gift, not a reward
06:33 PM on 02/08/2012
"By the way: do you now understand now that the neutral point is not only dependent on temperatur­e bu that it can even exceed 7.5"

Not in this context. It is also dependent on pressure. Pressure increases with sea depth and drives it below 7.5 even at zero degrees C. Your assumption is that the test is done in the Himalayas. Not much ocean acidification in the Himalayas.

Note that earlier you said that "the neutral point for water at 0 deg C is (ahem) 7.5." Not always. It appears that we've both learned something which is commendable.
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grappler1987
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06:56 PM on 02/08/2012
Grappler: "To bring it all together, tropical warmth and depth help bring the neutral pH down for corals in the tropics. But so what"

Publicola: "Got straw man? Yup."

Funny, most times when you claim "Straw Man", you illustrate that you don't know what a straw man is. Here is a source.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

Let's break it down. I pointed out a scientific fact but concluded that it wasn't the relevant part. I then pointed out the relevant part which agrees with the point of the Scientific American article. (Note that you cut the part that claims agreement with the article seemingly not realizing that I am agreeing with the article.) No where in that statement did I create a distorted position of the article as a means to refute the article.

But by distorting my position by cutting the relevant part which shows agreement with the article, you created a bizarre straw man to refute my position by claiming it was a straw man. There is a lot of irony in this debate.

Regardless, I don't care about straw man argument. Bloggers do that on occasion. No big deal ... bloggers aren't professionals. Continue as you were.
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grappler1987
Heaven is a gift, not a reward
01:12 PM on 02/08/2012
Grappler: "At 7, there is a shift from giving hydrogen ions to hydroxide ions or vice versa."

Publicola: "Always? Yes or no? "

I already answered that question. No, for example, warming waters which we are seeing can lower the neutral point.

In the warmer waters near coral, acidification isn't the main issue. (As an aside, the neutral point for pH is probably lower than 7 if temperatures are above 25 degrees C.) Temperature is the issue. Read the article to understand where I'm coming from. Corals are doing better in cooler, yet less alkaline waters.

I didn't realize that you were playing devil's advocate with the article and expressing concern about a rising neutral pH point. Sorry for the misunderstanding. To me, the article provided the context.
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Reality has a scientific bias
03:26 PM on 02/08/2012
Grappler: "At 7, there is a shift from giving hydrogen ions to hydroxide ions or vice versa."

Publicola: "Always? Yes or no? "

Grappler: "I already answered that question."

I asked you that question repeatedly and you completely ignored it repeatedly, until you eventually answered it. That only took, what, 6 times of my asking you before you finally answered?

Grappler: "No, for example, warming waters which we are seeing can lower the neutral point."

After numerous posts where you repeatedly claimed that the neutral point is 7.0 you now understand that the neutral point is temperature-dependent - congrats.

Grappler: "(As an aside, the neutral point for pH is probably lower than 7 if temperatur­es are above 25 degrees C.)"

As an aside, the neutral point for water is always lower than 7 when temperatur­es are above 25 degrees C, just as it is always higher than 7 when temperatures are below 25 degrees C. For example, the neutral point for water at 0 deg C is (ahem) 7.5.

Continued...
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
03:29 PM on 02/08/2012
...continued

Grappler: "Temperatur­e is the issue."

As the article observes, with respect to the adverse impact of man-made CO2 emissions on our oceans acidification and warming temperature are both very serious issues. While with respect to coral specifically the scientific evidence suggests that temperature may be the more important issue "at least in the near term", that of course does not mean that acidification is not also an important issue respect to coral, to say nothing of with respect to other ocean ecosystem impacts.

Grappler: "I didn't realize that you were playing devil's advocate with the article"

I wasn't. I didn't realize that you have such poor reading comprehension skills.
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grappler1987
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03:29 PM on 02/08/2012
Still unable to tie this to ocean acidification and its affects on coral? Hmm ... not sure what to make of this.
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12:16 AM on 02/08/2012
Mr. 1percenter below thinks coral doesn't matter.

But perhaps he's unaware and maybe doesn't really want to know that

“Coral reefs, the “rainforests of the sea,” are some of the most biodiverse and productive ecosystems on earth. They occupy only .2% of the ocean, yet are home to a quarter of all marine species: crustaceans, reptiles, seaweeds, bacteria, fungi, and over 4000 species of fish make their home in coral reefs. With an annual global economic value of $375 billion, coral reefs provide food and resources for over 500 million people in 94 countries and territories “

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2011/06/13/losing-our-coral-reefs/

Like the coral, fish, and plankton populations, CO2 levels and ocean acidification are also intertwined, not independent issues. More excess CO2 absorbed from fossil fuel emission = more ocean acidification.

But when does much become too much?

For those interested in what happens to aragonite, coral, and plankton shell calcification at CO2 levels above 450ppmv (we're at 392 ppmv and rising ~2.2 ppmv per year), here's some research papers and summaries.

Enjoy.
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12:14 AM on 02/08/2012
NOAA Ocean Acidification Summary
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification

CO2 acidifying the oceans
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/70717/title/FOR_KIDS_Sea_changes

2005: Raven, et al., Ocean Acidification due to increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide, Royal Soc. working group
http://eprints.ifm-geomar.de/7878/1/965_Raven_2005_OceanAcidificationDueToIncreasing_Monogr_pubid13120.pdf

2008: J. E. N. Veron, Coral Reefs, Volume 27, Number 3, 459-472
http://www.springerlink.com/content/085g2151l3nlt871/

2008: Salisbury, J. et al., supplementary material to "Coastal Acidification by Rivers: A New Threat to Shellfish, Eos Trans. AGU, 89, 50, 513
http://www.agu.org/pubs/eos-news/supplements/2008/salisbury_89_50.shtml

2008: McNeil and Matear, Southern Ocean acidification: A tipping point at 450-ppm atmospheric CO2, PNAS, 105, 48, 18860-18864
http://www.pnas.org/content/105/48/18860.short

2008: Kurihara, Effects of CO2-driven ocean acidification on early developmental stages of invertebrates, Marine Ecology Progress Series, Dec. 23, 2008
ftp://128.193.67.22/dist/OMEL/Diazo_CO2/MEPS_ThemeSection08.pdf#page=77

2008: Feely, et al., Evidence for Upwelling of Corrosive "Acidified" Water onto the Continental Shelf, Science, 320, 5882, pp. 1490-1492, May 22, 2008
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/320/5882/1490.short
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12:13 AM on 02/08/2012
2008: Fabry et al., Impacts of Ocean Acidification on Marine Fauna and Ecosystem Processes, ICES J. Marine Science, 65, 414-432
http://icesjms.oxfordjournals.org/content/65/3/414.full.pdf

2009: Yamamoto-Kawai, et al., Aragonite Undersaturation in the Arctic Ocean: Effects of Ocean Acidification and Sea Ice Melt, Science, 326, 5956, Nov. 20, 2009
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/326/5956/1098.short

2009: Yamamoto-Kawai, et al., Aragonite Undersaturation in the Arctic Ocean: Effects of Ocean Acidification and Sea Ice Melt, Science, 326, 5956, Nov. 20, 2009
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/326/5956/1098.short

2009: Steinacher et al., Imminent ocean acidification in the Arctic projected with the NCAR global coupled carbon cycle-climate model, Biogeosciences, EGU, 6,515-533, 2009
http://www.biogeosciences.net/6/515/2009/bg-6-515-2009.html

2009: Martin and Gattuso, Response of Mediterranean coralline algae to ocean acidification and elevated temperature - MARTIN - 2009 - Global Change Biology, 15, 8, pp. 2089-2100, Aug. 2009
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2486.2009.01874.x/full

2009: A. L. Cohen and M. Holcomb, Why corals care about ocean acidification : uncovering the mechanism, Oceanography, 22, 4, 118-127, 2009
http://darchive.mblwhoilibrary.org:8080/handle/1912/3179

2010: Dupont, Orega-Martinez, Thorndyke, Impact of near-future ocean acidification on echinoderms, Ecotoxicology, 19, 3, 449-462
http://www.springerlink.com/content/2052510111052808/
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westcoastsc
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhe
12:31 PM on 02/06/2012
To me what is more disturbing than the global warming is the effect that high levels of carbon in the atmosphere has on ocean creatures. We may see a huge die off of ocean creatures in the next hundred years.
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Mr Anonymous
Mumpsimus, I am not entertained!
06:46 PM on 02/05/2012
I better hurry up and save some cash to see them before they're gone.
zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
01:21 PM on 02/05/2012
At the rate we're emitting CO2 into the atmosphere, there will probably be, at least, a 4 degree rise in temperature by the end of this century...so coral reefs will be the least of our problems. I read that even if we stopped using fossil fuel today, there will be hundreds of years of both temperature rises and ocean acidification.

Scientists have been warning us since the 70s, but governments chose not to do anything about it, and they're still "fiddling while Rome burns". We're having our "boom" now, but it won't be long until the "bust" comes. So much for our "children and grandchildren"!
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Jim Milks
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06:14 PM on 02/05/2012
Unfortunately, you're essentially correct. Even if we stopped all human CO2 emissions, we're locked into another 0.6ºC rise from today's temperatures in the short-term. In the long-term, we would be looking at a 2.1ºC rise from today's temperature, as the long-term sensitivity appears to be 6ºC.
zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
11:09 PM on 02/05/2012
And if the frozen Artic tundra thaws and starts releasing all of it's pent up CO2, we are truly finished!
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alteredstory
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01:13 PM on 02/05/2012
"That careful balance has survived over time because of a near equilibrium among the acids emitted by volcanoes and the bases liberated by the weathering of rock. The pH of seawater has remained steady for millions of years. Before the industrial era began, the average pH at the ocean surface was about 8.2 (slightly basic; 7.0 is neutral). Today it is about 8.1.

Although the change may seem small, similar natural shifts have taken 5,000 to 10,000 years. We have done it in 50 to 80 years. Ocean life survived the long, gradual change, but the current speed of acidification is very worrisome. Emissions could reduce surface pH by another 0.4 unit in this century alone and by as much as 0.7 unit beyond 2100. We are hurtling toward an ocean different than the earth has known for more than 25 million years."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rising-acidity-in-the-ocean
07:46 AM on 02/05/2012
We have been hearing for over a decade how the corals of the ocean are in danger and disappearing, yet all the coral reefs are still there.
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LastAngryWoman
waiting for godot
09:43 AM on 02/05/2012
Ah.

You remind me of the time when scientists were warning everyone that the cod was disappearing.

That went on for years. And for years, folks with a stake in the game, said "but they're still here".

Until one day, they weren't.

And that was that.
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10:20 AM on 02/06/2012
Very good point.
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
12:59 PM on 02/05/2012
Yes, because when something is in danger, EVERYTHING that is warned about happens RIGHT AWAY, and if not, then the danger NEVER EXISTED.

Just like with terrorism - we've been warned about another attack like the one on 9/11/01, and it hasn't happened, therefor there's no risk, and we can start ignoring terrorism.

That must be what Bush meant by "Mission Accomplished"!
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
07:29 PM on 02/05/2012
GSR said: "The Great Barrier Reef is being bleeched to death as we speak. We are discussing science here. Stop making $#!! up."

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What, exactly, are you accusing me of "making up"?
07:43 AM on 02/05/2012
Once again, the reporting is incomplete. Ocean PH is widely variable, and always has been. These stories AWLAYS assume that climate is static. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Ocean acidification - http://joannenova.com.au/2012/01/scripps-blockbuster-ocean-acidification-happens-all-the-time-naturally/

Ocean temperatures are always changing as well - what do you think La Nina and El Nino are?????

When Al Gore is involved, bizarre things happen.
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
01:02 PM on 02/05/2012
Right! Of course! How could the thousands of scientists monitoring ocean pH not have thought of that! You're so much smarter then everybody else!

Seriously - do you REALLY think that's the case?

Tens of thousands of people are checking pH daily all over the globe, and the overall TREND is that pH is dropping. For it to do otherwise would be a revolution in chemistry and molecular physics.
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Jim Milks
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09:04 PM on 02/05/2012
It would help Nova's understanding (and save her some embarrassment) if she had bothered to read the study before trying to blog about it. As it is, her spin doesn't match the study data or conclusions at all.

Hofmann et al. 2011: http://bit.ly/vkOR3O

"For all the marine habitats described above, one very important consideration is that the extreme range of environmental variability does not necessarily translate to extreme resistance to future OA. Instead, such a range of variation may mean that the organisms resident in tidal, estuarine, and upwelling regions are already operating at the limits of their physiological tolerances (a la the classic tolerance windows of Fox – see [68]). Thus, future acidification, whether it be atmospheric or from other sources, may drive the physiology of these organisms closer to the edges of their tolerance windows. When environmental change is layered upon their present-day range of environmental exposures, they may thereby be pushed to the “guardrails” of their tolerance [20], [68]."

Whoops. Guess Nova forgot about that portion of the discussion section.
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12:28 PM on 02/06/2012
"It would help Nova's understand­ing (and save her some embarrassm­ent)..."

If Joanne Nova is capable of embarrassment that is not evident in her writings.
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07:44 AM on 02/05/2012
Scripps found wide disparity and variability in PH - IT IS NORMAL.
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12:45 PM on 02/05/2012
wide variability in GLOBAL mean acidity?
And where's your referencee?
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Reductio ad Absurdum
12:17 AM on 02/06/2012
No they absolutely did not.
02:31 PM on 02/04/2012
but of course according to those 'wise & informed heads' in the formerly Grand Old Party there's no global warming is there???
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06:29 PM on 02/04/2012
That's all you got, isn't it? Anyone who doesn't buy into (literally, an involuntary tithe-tax into!) your line of bled-by-the-nose botched statistics and already disclaimed ice cores and tree rings epistles is a 'heretic' or 'infide|' or 'Grand Old Party Industrial Corporate' ... who pays your salary.
01:28 AM on 02/05/2012
Unfortunately for the validity of your 'overwrought' reply "all I got" is all I need as far as knowledge from my early-to-mid 90s experiences working in Antarctica alongside of --and frequently transporting-the very same Polar scientists who first raised the alarm & brought the phenomena to world attention. As predicted by those very capable climatologists (primarily Brits -some of whom I met at Palmer Station along with a lady Pole from Krakow U. & shipped back & forth with & discussed the whole matter of G.W extensively with them when they were relaxed on board & 'open to discussion) From all I gleaned then in those earlier days of it being studied and from all that has clearly come about since I can assure you that Global Warming was not only well under-way back then but has since rapidly progressed at an ever-quickening pace all around us -as anyone without a closed mind & with eyes to see clearly understands! --and as evidenced by the very same patterns of 'weather extremes' that those same scientists back then also predicted would become the most notable symptom of G.W.