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Regulate Marijuana Like Wine

  First Posted: 02/ 3/2012 5:50 pm Updated: 02/ 3/2012 6:39 pm

This article comes to us courtesy of SF Weekly's The Snitch.

By Chris Roberts

​Regulate Marijuana Like Wine, a marijuana legalization measure vying to get onto the November ballot, has only $80,000 in cash on hand, according to finance records. But in a poll released this week, it had potential support from 62 percent of likely voters -- and that, ballot proponents say, is quite literally money in the bank.

"That shows funders we can win," said Steve Kubby, a South Lake Tahoe marijuana activist and member of the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine's campaign committee. "Anytime you're polling over 60 percent, you command anyone's attention."

And history just might be on RMLW's side: Those poll numbers are also close to where Proposition 215 was 16 years ago, before the nation's first medical marijuana laws were approved by a million vote margin in November 1996, Kubby noted. Those are also rosier numbers than 2010's Proposition 19 -- which earned more votes than former Republican gubernatorial nominee Meg Whitman -- enjoyed before its historic defeat.

It's still going to be an uphill climb: Organizers have 30,000 signatures thus far, a fraction of the 504,760 validated signatures from registered California voters needed to qualify Regulate Marijuana Like Wine for the ballot (closer to 750,000 or more are in reality needed, allowing for invalidated scribbles and other snafus). Nonetheless, the poll means several billionaires are at this moment crunching numbers and deciding whether to bankroll the initiatives, Kubby told SF Weekly Thursday.

Regulate Marijuana Like Wine is one of several ballot measures concerning marijuana in the signature-gathering process. If passed, it would remove from the California law books all criminal statutes related to marijuana for adults 21 or older. Another ballot initiative, Repeal Cannabis Prohibition, would also undo criminal penalties pertaining to marijuana. A third, the California Cannabis and Hemp Initiative of 2012, would go even further, but has yet to commission the poll necessary to attract heaps of cash.

Another ballot initiative, called the Medical Marijuana Regulation, Control and Taxation Act, is sponsored by labor union UFCW and Americans for Safe Access. It seems to have a good shot at gathering the necessary money and signatures, but creates an updated regulatory framework for medical marijuana, and does not address adult legalization.

About $1.5 million is needed to obtain the required 504,760 valid signatures -- if done a month before the April 20 deadline. If the signature-gathering is done in the final, crazy month -- when everyone vying for the ballot is employing any paid signature gatherers they can find -- signature-gathering firms' prices quadruple, meaning it could cost as much as $5 million, Kubby noted.

"Right now, three different billionaires have our numbers, and are reviewing them," said Kubby, who declined to name them -- though very moneyed men, among them liberal make-it-rainer George Soros, Progressive Auto Insurance Chairman Peter Lewis, Napster cofounder Sean Parker, and Facebook cofounder Dustin Moskovitz, were tapped in 2010 for Prop 19. Are they willing to throw money after Regulate Marijuana Like Wine, too?

Maybe.

Lewis recently wrote an e-mail to cannabis activist Mickey Martin, who had asked Lewis for $1.5 million to fund a legalization ballot measure.

Lewis replied thusly:

"I have done considerable research which leads me to conclude that the time has not yet come for legalization. I believe that if the issue you want to pass isn't polling well above 60% in favor before the election, there is no chance to pass it. California is not there yet."

Is 62 percent enough for Lewis? Time will tell. In the meantime, the campaign is celebrating its poll numbers.

"Everyone, including the polling company, was shocked," Kubby said. "We owe a debt of gratitude to the United States attorneys, who pushed the voters this way with their ridiculous scare tactics. I can't think of anything better for our campaign."

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This article comes to us courtesy of SF Weekly's The Snitch. By Chris Roberts ​Regulate Marijuana Like Wine, a marijuana legalization measure vying to get onto the November ...
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karen lyons kalmenson
i poem/paint, sometimes, i ain't
01:09 PM on 02/23/2012
weed should be legal
yes in deed
the earth is fertile
we have planted the seed
so empty the prisons
of harmless innocent users
and fill those cells instead
with animal and child
abusers!!!!!!
04:05 PM on 02/17/2012
We can only hope that common sense is slowly replacing reefer madness. It is time we understand that we will never arrest and criminalize our way to a drug free America. Prohibition has been a jobs program for the Justice Department and local police. More people than ever use marijuana and fewer people than ever are drinking less. The remaining danger from using marijuana comes down to the police and the law. Otherwise science tells us that marijuana is very safe, only mildly addictive and non toxic. It was science that took us to the moon and back safely so I tend to put my faith in science rather than our government's rantings about the dangers of pot. It was a government man named Mr. Anslinger many years ago who testified to congress about the affects of marijuana, his testimony follows:

“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.”
~ Harry Anslinger,
U.S. Commissioner of Narcotics,
testifying to Congress on why marijuana should be made illegal
(Marijuana Tax Act, signed Aug. 2, 1937; effective Oct. 1, 1937.)

This is why marijuana is illegal today. Because you damned white women can't toke and keep your eye's off the black men and musicians. You have ruined it for all of us!
05:38 PM on 02/09/2012
What a selfish world. The strange equality - "the new elite." What are the laws for? To protect psychopath­s, or the victims. The schemes and excuses people dream up
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havana62
I've already told you more than I know.
12:27 AM on 02/08/2012
Cant they just get Woody Harrelson to donate the $1.5 mil.??? You know he wants to.....
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havana62
I've already told you more than I know.
12:24 AM on 02/08/2012
As a matter of fact, just sell weed in the wine section at the supermarket.......
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darkmark
religion, the veil of evil.
02:21 AM on 02/07/2012
i go to the home page for Regulate Marijuana Like Wine, fine, then i try Help Win button and get:

Not Found

Apologies, but the page you requested could not be found. Perhaps searching will help.
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RMForbes
Ask me about industrial hemp
03:55 PM on 02/07/2012
http://regulatemarijuanalikewine.com/ It works for me.
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darkmark
religion, the veil of evil.
05:23 PM on 02/07/2012
yep, now it works. earlier all i got were there last 4 lines in my first comment.
02:53 PM on 02/06/2012
If you want a push to legalize it then fine, but it should be restricted and regulated by a governing body that sets the rules. Testing of use should be welcomed in the workplace and on the roads, and users working under the influence should be liable for immediate termination should the employer deem necessary, and drivers showing measurable levels of the substance in their system while driving should be subject to jail time and revocation of license.

It should be regulated to the degree that it can only be grown on licensed premises, and sold at the same. That way the "projected tax revenues" might actually be realized. Any "medical marijuana" should be acquired via physician prescription only.

This is not a drug like heroin, or LSD or Alcohol. All those take certain knowledge and skills to manufacture, whereas any child with a seed and a watering can can grow Marijuana. Make no mistake, the consumption of Marijuana is hazardous to children!

So accept this as an illegal drug, or legalize and regulate, but either way it should always be considered a controlled substance.
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RMForbes
Ask me about industrial hemp
03:07 PM on 02/06/2012
This is supposed to be a free country not an authoritarian state. Random drug testing in the workplace? Really? You don't sound like an American to me.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
05:54 PM on 02/06/2012
Employers have the right to have a drug free workplace.
03:57 PM on 02/06/2012
Neither alcohol now tobacco are controlled substances. They are regulated. I think that the rules should be similar to those for alcohol. It should be sold to adults from licensed shops. Driving while impaired should on marijuana is already against the law. If they can come up with a test where they can find a measurable amount that indicates impairment, then they should use those tests and charge people if they have greater than the statutory maximum amount of THC in their system. Even if they don't have an equavalent of a BAC test though it's not that big of a deal. They don't have those for prescription drugs or any other drugs and didn't used to have one for alcohol, but convictions are had every day for driving while impaired on those substances. Dashboard video and video at the jail along with new field tests by officers trained to recognize impairment on drugs make these convictions easy.

And if you want to see high tax revenues, allow for large scale growing, not on site growing. Big growers will drive the price through the floor and there will be plenty of room for high taxes before prices are as high as they are now. And don't worry about small scale homegrowing so much. Look at how dispensaries in California are doing gangbusters business selling super expensive pot to people allowed to grow their own at home. It's obviously not as eay to grow your own quality product as you think.
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NAMU2010
Know Better = Do Better
12:49 PM on 02/06/2012
It's about time to legalize weed. I for one wll buy it, pay the taxes, and enjoy!
11:28 AM on 02/06/2012
I have always thought that it should be packaged like loose tobacco and sold in liquor stores, penalties involving minors should be the same as alcohol. Pot is so much less dangerous than alcohol in the fact that you cannot die from overdose yet some look upon it like the devil’s advocate while they sit back and drink their martinis. Many do not know that one of the reasons that it is illegal is that back when, loggers did not want the competition from the hemp industry involving paper products. The loggers had the money and the “ear” of certain high up officials and helped make it illegal. We all know what has happened to forests everywhere due to clear cutting for our most basic of paper products. And please do not give me the misguided argument that if you make paper from hemp people will be smoking paper to get high. Yea some idiot will probably try but all will learn very quickly that this does not work and only lands you in the hospital for smoke inhalation.
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Fencik45
Are you experienced?
10:32 AM on 02/06/2012
I'll sign.
Sean Porter
I support the right to arm bears.
10:10 AM on 02/06/2012
I hope that California won't descend into another mj civil war like in 2010 over prop 19 between the legalizers and the stoners for prohibition crowd. However; If they do, then California will never be the first US state to legalize.
06:58 PM on 02/06/2012
I know. The growers in the north and the dispensaries really showed what their motive is, money.
They hand us all this BS about compassion and "oh you poor opressed pot smoker" but they were opposed to it being legalized.
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02:11 AM on 02/07/2012
Yes. What a disappointment to see some growers campaign against re-legalization. We just need to educate all the consumers not to listen to these parasites (I know - not all growers are like that.) who have more in common with drug gangs and prohibitionists than they do with marijuana consumers and reformers.
08:53 AM on 02/06/2012
Remember folks, it doesn't matter is any state legalizes weed. It's still illegal per the federal law which means growers and users can be arrested and prosecuted. We already see the federal witch hunt in states like CA and CO who are making it crystal clear that although it may be used for medical purposes they're still going to enforce it on a federal level.
Sean Porter
I support the right to arm bears.
09:58 AM on 02/06/2012
If a certain state would just have the guts to legalize, it would create a chain reaction of other states making it legal. So, yes it does matter.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
02:22 PM on 02/06/2012
That might fly in Ca. but it won't in the South.
12:57 PM on 02/06/2012
Sean is right. The feds aren't gong to legalize it until a few states do. You are right in saying that the feds would likely crack down on suppliers in states that legalize. We won't really see a big legal industry in the first state that legalizes unless the feds agree to let them operate provided they operate within state law, like they have done to some extent for medical marijuana. Even then, these people will be standing on shaky ground and we wouldn't see much in the way of big corporate investment in the industry. That will come when the feds legalize. Until then it's likely that in states that legalize it will just be a situation where people are allowed under state law to possess it and to grow a little. That would not eliminate the black market, but it would put a dent in organized crime profits, as people would be growing their own and supplying their friends. It would crank up the debate in a big way though, and I doubt it would be many years before the feds legalize. That is coming, one way or another. States legalizing will just make it happen sooner.
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05:03 AM on 02/06/2012
I have newer understood why beer is legal and pot is not.
11:49 AM on 02/06/2012
Because pot is a Schedule I drug, along with heroin and meth. Did you know that smoking pot may lead to blindness from staring at the sun? Me neither, but according to Reefer Madness it will lead to stronger drugs and then disaster.

It's high time our leaders revisit the classification of marijuana in its insane present state.
07:00 PM on 02/06/2012
hehehehe
reefer madness
omg LMAO
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
02:22 PM on 02/06/2012
Because society, through their representatives in the legislature, have made it that way.
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RMForbes
Ask me about industrial hemp
02:44 PM on 02/06/2012
Yes the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 was passed though Congress and signed by FDR but the only "expert" witness in the Congressional was Harry J Anslinger. Anslinger only presented sensationalized stories from the tabloids of the day, the newspapers owned by Wm Randolf Hearst. Can you imagine Congress passing a law today with only one witness in the hearings and that witness only presented stories in supermarket tabloids as factual evidence.

Marijuana was just a slang term used by Mexican migrant workers for wild tobacco until it was linked to cannabis by the Hearst stories. The real reason Hearst wanted cannabis restricted was his significant financial holdings in the forest paper products industry. A German American immigrant invented the Decordicator which mechanically separated the long bast fibers from the short fiber pulp in hemp stalks which made hemp paper production suddenly a major competitor to Hearst's financial interests. Do you really believe our Congress should be passing laws to protect special interest profits over the interests of the American people?
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08:51 AM on 02/07/2012
Iave read that the Gov.make money with it
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
09:24 PM on 02/05/2012
I suppose there will be endlessly sp[r]outing weed critics just like wine critics........
11:51 AM on 02/06/2012
::sniff sniff:: it has a full bodied subtle sweetness that lingers passionately on the palate.

(spoken in my most snooty upper crust voice inflection)
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01:51 PM on 02/06/2012
lol
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kbeth
Dear Jesus, Save us from the Christians. Amen
04:37 PM on 02/05/2012
California has a large entertanment industry, they need to be contributing.