Indiana Creationism Bill Has Uncertain Future Among State GOP Lawmakers

Lafayette Journal And Courier:

If a bill that would enable the teaching of creation science alongside evolution makes it to a vote in the Indiana House, local Republican lawmakers aren't sure how they'll vote.

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Comments

[marind]

12:47 PM on 02/11/2012

My father was from Indiana and I still have family there, all Pentacost. Of the 6 adults in my relative's family (parents + 4 children) FIVE of them are on some form of public funding: Social Security, Medicare, SDI, etc.

They all vote Republican.

Apparently Indiana is a great place for disconnect between facts and reality.

BTW: Fabulous documentary on this "controversy" is "Judgment Day: Evolution and Intelligent Design" about the Kitzmiller v Dover School Board case. Interestingly, the federal judge who held that teaching "Intelligent Design" = teaching Creationism and was therefore unconstitutional was a very conservative Republican Geo W. Bush appointee.

The judge also reprimanded the pro-ID faction of the School Board for PERJURING themselves and costing the school district over $1million on this ID nonsense. So there IS hope.

[Gring]

09:55 AM on 02/08/2012

I know once the Evangelical GOPers saw that this would mean that OTHER religions besides Christianity would be taught as well, they would bail on it. Pretty apparent, they are for religious freedom, as long as it is their religion. Actually think it would have been unique to see midwestern kids learning Koranic verse in class.

[marind]

12:50 PM on 02/11/2012

Yeah - thought that was hilarious! Like the Demo legislature this week who proposed an amendment to a "personhood" bill which declared sperm to be human beings.

Maybe that's the approach to take with these numbskulls: Propose amendments that drive their bills to their logical and absurd conclusion. It also gets a lot of media coverage.

As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

[phantommate]

03:04 AM on 02/07/2012

A little more chlorine in the gene pool, please.

[marind]

12:34 PM on 02/11/2012

Ha!

[Matt Hotz]

09:25 PM on 02/06/2012

Mother Nature must be laughing terribly to see how these children of the Lord have gotten so lost in the woods of their own blighted arrogance.

[LeftRight]

08:45 PM on 02/06/2012

Why did it get a FIRST look???

[M4dwoman]

07:20 PM on 02/06/2012

There is a place for fiction in the curriculum. It's called language arts or literature.
There's a place for religious fiction. It's called religion class or sunday school.
Creationism and it's sly, sinister, pretend cousin intelligent design, are fiction supported by faith mythology.
Therefore they have no place in a science classroom.

[A Dub]

08:49 PM on 02/06/2012

They do not belong in public school at all.

[M4dwoman]

09:09 PM on 02/06/2012

You're right, if they're used as an alternative to real science as is the case here. However, if the teacher is well versed enough to dispute these fundamentalist beliefs and the lazy acceptance that has elevated them to the same level as science in the mind of the christianists, then I say go for it. They make great examples of the dangers of false science and how to recognize the real thing.
It's like having to refute the lies about the moon landing and the holocaust.

[tpcinaz]

07:18 PM on 02/06/2012

Creationism is "science" for the lazy.

[MarsAmbassador]

07:36 PM on 02/06/2012

Going a few steps further, it's "answers" for the ignorant.

[Martha Fair]

06:55 PM on 02/06/2012

OMG - what the hell is in the drinking water in Indiana? First they pass the "Right to Work for nothing" bill so they can join the other lowest 10 Republican controlled median income states in the nation, now this?

Creationism = alchemy and the world is flat, along with the Astronauts did not really land on the moon crap. All people that believe this are ignorant fundamentalist religious fanatics and so we must do as they tell us. WTF? I can just hear the banjo playing deliverance in the background.

[imusintheevening]

06:14 PM on 02/06/2012

Creationism is just that, a creation.

[StillAmused]

06:01 PM on 02/06/2012

Indiana... the new South Carolina.

GOTTA dance carefully, GOP, when your dancing partner is a throwback creationist. Those knuckles just might drag across your expensive, shiny Florsheims.

... but you DO have to "dance with who brung ya'".

[Socrmom]

05:59 PM on 02/06/2012

Creation science is an oxymoron

[A Dub]

08:51 PM on 02/06/2012

Yes it is, but there is no such thing as creation science.

[Madbunny]

05:58 PM on 02/06/2012

Historians will refer to this trend as "The Great Dumbening".

When a nation, formerly a leader in the world for it's math, science and arguably in possession of the globes greatest technological advantage chose to throw it all away in favor of fairy tales.

[bholesurfers]

05:56 PM on 02/06/2012

The reason the repubs don't believe because they don't have the correct genes to advance

[Blissful]

05:44 PM on 02/06/2012

I cannot believe this! It hurts my head to think that this is really something that modern people would consider a good thing!

[rtgmath]

05:34 PM on 02/06/2012

Creationism is not "science" at all, but anti-science. It is an insistence that we cannot know, that the evidence and processes we see in the world are illusions because God did not do it the way it appears.

Creationism has stood time and again and said, "You cannot know anything beyond this point." Everytime we march beyond. Creationism points its finger its interpretation (flawed) of a Book and said, this is how it has to be. Scientists prefer to look at the evidence and follow its leading.

As a result, science has made huge advances in biology and biological understanding -- based on evolutionary theory, mind you! It has made great advances in energy and material sciences. All of its advances come by being what it is, and not listening to creationism's "you cannot know God's secrets."

Creationism would take us back to the Bronze or Stone ages. Science teaches us what we need to know if we will grasp the future -- if we have the will pursue knowledge and not be afraid of what we may learn.

[simon Bar]

06:07 PM on 02/06/2012

When will thinking peoples rational expressions get the point across to the rest of the masses.
It really scares me that we, in the US, are so backwards.
The Founding Fathers message of Deism (today's Atheists) has been hijacked by Fundamentalists. The Young Earth Creationists can not come to terms with fossils of Dinosaurs etc. The teaching of Creationism without Evolution is Un-Patriotic. Science deserves the respect for the accomplishment of the last 300 years.
For example, people do you like your modern Medicine? 150 yrs ago medicine was more primitive than most know! Thank a scientist!