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Ex-Lehman Brothers Trader: Only On Wall Street Could You 'Get Paid So Much For Doing So Little'

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 02/ 6/2012 3:09 pm Updated: 02/ 6/2012 3:09 pm

The fallout from the financial crisis has already changed the way much of America views Wall Street. It may also be changing the way the financial industry views itself.

After years of huge paychecks and bonuses, financial industry workers are seeing their compensation capped and cut thanks to anxiety surrounding the global economy and oncoming regulations. But when a salary or bonus can serve as evidence of an accomplishment, it's disappearance can also amount to an erosion of self-worth.

"There's no other industry where you could get paid so much for doing so little," an ex-trader for Lehman Brothers told New York Magazine as part of a piece about the changing dynamics of Wall Street.

You can read New York's entire Wall Street piece here.

Though the former Lehman trader may be one of the first Wall Street workers to express that sentiment in print, he's echoing the views of others. The head of Britain's top financial watchdog has said that what takes place on Wall Street is largely a "socially useless activity," according to a 2010 New Yorker report.

Some have argued that such high levels of pay create an incentive for bankers to prioritize short-term profits over a firm's long-term health. Such is the reason for a Dodd-Frank financial reform law that requires firms to "claw back" pay in certain circumstances, like if the deal on which a bonus is predicated turns into a loss in a certain number of years.

Paul Volcker, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve and the author of one of the more controversial measures in the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, told New York that Wall Street turned into a place that constantly needed to prove its greater utility.

"Finance became a self-justification" he said.

Paul Woolley, who founded a center at the London School of Economics that studies "capital market dysfunctionality," put it even more bluntly to the New Yorker in 2010.

"Why on earth should finance be the biggest and most highly paid industry when it's just a utility, like sewage or gas?" he said.

May the jig finally be up? Morgan Stanley capped its cash bonuses at $125,000 for 2011 and its top executives didn't net any cash bonuses at all, according to The New York Times. At Goldman Sachs, bonus day was like a "bloodbath" one mid-level executive told CNBC; some bankers and traders learned they would be taking home no bonuses at all, while the firm halved the pay of some of its highest-level employees.

Yet Wall Street will likely remain a top draw for America's best and brightest for the foreseeable future. At Bank of America, a company that has struggled since the financial crisis, average overall compensation for an investment banking associate will likely remain in six-figure territory, even after preparations for pay packages an average of 25 percent smaller than last year.

And they'll still likely be making more than workers in many other high-paying professions with more tangible societal benefits. After 10 years of deal-making, a banker will have taken home more than ten times that of a cancer researcher during the same period, according to Bloomberg.

Still, James Gorman, the CEO of Morgan Stanley, said earlier this month that employees upset with the drop in their pay need to have a reality check. "If you put your compensation in a one year context to define your overall level of happiness, you've got a problem that is bigger than the job," Gorman told Bloomberg TV.

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10:22 PM on 02/13/2012
Certainly, we should not let the circus that is OWS obscure the fact that there are genuine problems with our financial system.
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05:03 PM on 02/10/2012
Title of the article: Ex-Lehman Brothers Trader: Only On Wall Street Could You 'Get Paid So Much For Doing So Little'

This is a perfect example of a private sector capitalist market working flawlessly. Lehman Brothers closed their doors, maybe if the lazy trader mentioned above worked an honest day investors wouldn't have lost so much money.

I understand why the unemployed trader is now part of the occupy movement. He's just as lazy, uneducated, and self entitled as the rest of the moron's who think they should all have nice things with out working for them.

"Lazy leftist's lying, while redistributing other's hard earned gains, will be the end of this great country" Yours Truly
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12:50 PM on 02/11/2012
A Republican argument of entitlement that protects the 1% from working for a living, paying their fair share and passing down their assets to lazy, ignorant children who can not make it on their own. They call the middle class and 99% lazy and try to tax them so they don't have to pay their share.
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11:20 PM on 02/12/2012
First let me say, what a well thought out argument....NOT!

You are just like the rest of this socialistic regime. Who the heck are you to say that the 1% isn't paying their fair share? or that they didn't work hard to get where they are?
And lastly if their ignorant children can't make it on their own, they eventually will be broke! and that's where you can come in, giving them free everything!

Liberals are interested in wealth redistribution. They think anyone who is successful must have cheated like they did!

Just keep selling the idea that everyone should have the same no matter how hard you work or what you sacrifice. we'll be the soviet union in no time!

Crying leftist babies and Lazy union thugs must be what made this country great, I mean, just listen to them for 2 seconds...moron
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Andrew Cole
05:43 PM on 02/11/2012
You could accuse him of many things, but uneducated is hardly one of them. You don't get a job like that without having skill and knowledge. Most people cannot do simple algebra. They have engineering level math skills. It is a professional job. It's just way over compensated compared to other professional jobs.

Lazy? hardly, they usually work long hours too, but it isn't physically demanding like being a construction worker is. Those kinds of jobs require you to put in long hours of mentally draining work that contributes almost nothing to society and only serves to slush money around in a way that benefits the employer and ultimately themselves through bonuses.

People complain about the government redistributing wealth but the financial sector is no better. In fact, it's worse, because at least when the government does it some people actual get the help they need. When finance does it, the only people who benefit are already rich. It's a perfect example of advantages breeding advantages at the expense of somebody else.

This guy woke up and smelled the coffee. I think the drugs your smoking are too strong for coffee though.
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11:29 PM on 02/12/2012
Wait, who are you arguing with? Did you read the article? His quote "Only on wall street could you get so rich for doing so little"

SO, you are confused. Which is it, either he worked really hard and was really smart, or by his own words was "doing so little"

I know, the guy in the article is a lib now, so his IQ is higher and the Leftist idiots on this site take his word as gospel.

Occupy, Unionized labor, Progressive Libs, they are all the same:
Lets demonize successful people while telling the poor it's someone else’s fault they are poor. It has nothing to do with your specific life choices.

But hey, like the pot smoking union workers you hang with, you probably believe a successful guy like myself uses just as much as you. Here's where you are wrong cause while I can afford way more, I use none.

keep blaming everyone but yourself, someday it might come true.
12:56 AM on 03/03/2012
F&F
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Henry Jumkins
shadowboxer, poet
01:30 PM on 02/08/2012
we are all responsible for the world to change and for corruption to end. the change starts from within. are you ready for the journey?
12:57 AM on 03/03/2012
F&F
12:44 PM on 02/08/2012
Occupy has made a clear goal of using Wall Street as a way to crippe the economy. If they can cause a divide in the nation and make people think is it evil, then they have begun their revolution. This is they exact same methods used to put Hiltler in power. Look at the success with Arab Spring.. They are attacking wall street to make people think it is all evil and that people have no personal accountability. They are trying to create a have and have not divide between people. This is wrong...
01:05 AM on 03/03/2012
Wall St. Crippled the economy. This is agreed upon! There IS a have & have not divide. Laws protect banks / Wall St. & even enable them to make money easier.

For good information about what Corporations & Politicians CONTROL Congress, etc., & do not protect the 99% SEE:

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blackranger
04:57 PM on 02/07/2012
A relative of mine is an investment banker. He laughed as he described his work "I go to the country club for a few drinks and sell the deal. Then the financial folks write up the paperwork" He gets the big bucks for doing what? Hmm, guess sales is always the good paying place to be.
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
05:22 PM on 02/09/2012
Sales has always been one of the highest paying careers. I audited payroll when I was just out of college. The owner, then the good salesmen, then the skilled trades, then the unskilled labor, then the clerical staff, then the lousy salesment was the pecking order.
10:27 PM on 02/13/2012
If you can make it rain, you will always do well. Firms can always hire technically competent people to do the work, whether they are financial firms, law firms, whatever. Really good salesmen are hard to come by.
04:55 PM on 02/07/2012
When I recently compared investing and capital gains to gambling, a conservative friend was appalled at the comparison. If it isn't gambling, what is it? Remember the risk/reward principle? Ask hard working people who "invested" in 401K's, etc who are now ready to retire with half their "savings" gone. It is gambling pure and simple. To me the tax rate for gambling winnings (capital gains) should be twice what is is for those who actually worked for their earnings. But what do I know, I'm just a working stiff with no savings, living paycheck to paycheck.
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maserati2
Finally an honest politician! ELIZABETH WARREN!
05:47 PM on 02/07/2012
Perhaps it's not gambling either, since the outcome does not depend on pure chance but a sense of fair play and honesty in the players.
04:38 PM on 02/08/2012
Don't put all your eggs in one basket. 401k is stock market dependant, use regular savings too. Pay off your liabilities, invest in land or create a business. It needs to be a mix...
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jh2
That's sketchy Mitt: Want a haircut? RIP Lauber
03:36 PM on 02/07/2012
While we're at it, can we add sports athletes, actors, and most CEO's to the list of overpaid-by-what-they-actual-contribution-to-society list?
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Gary St Lawrence
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03:19 PM on 02/07/2012
This "Wall Street reform" is such a B.S. appearance-only shuffle.

It's like taking one guy's stack of poker chips and spreading them over the empty seats to his left and right. It *LOOKS* more leveled, but the guy in the chair still takes all the chips with him when he leaves the table.

And the cards are most definitely being dealt from the bottom of the deck.
Karma2U
Blessed are the Peacemakers
02:58 PM on 02/07/2012
Occupy the voting booths!
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Philip DeVon
04:07 PM on 02/07/2012
Since when has voting a new candidate in ever resulted in real change?
09:52 PM on 02/11/2012
FDR? I rest my case.
01:22 PM on 02/07/2012
He failed to also mention Wall-Street is the only entity where you get a Bonus for driving an investor, company broke to include the worlds economy.
Karma2U
Blessed are the Peacemakers
03:03 PM on 02/07/2012
They also get lots of cocaine and obscene signing bonuses such as luxury cars etc.
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First Blast
won't be fooled again
01:18 PM on 02/07/2012
Investing isn't work, it is like putting chips on a table.
01:02 PM on 02/07/2012
They get paid well to spread anarchy capitalism; where the US will soon look like Mexico, Chile, Peru, Guatemala, Russia or anywhere else Milton Friedman economic policy (so-called free market capitalism) has been experimented!
12:53 PM on 02/08/2012
occupiers are the anarchists
09:54 PM on 02/11/2012
Powerless, but yeah.
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WILLIEMOJORISIN
You were expecting Mensa members ?
12:56 PM on 02/07/2012
"Occuppy" lmfao
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Gary St Lawrence
11th Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Get Away With It
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WILLIEMOJORISIN
You were expecting Mensa members ?
04:05 PM on 02/07/2012
Angry much ?
mavpay
I am WE THE PEOPLE
12:55 PM on 02/07/2012
People of conscience within institutions where corruption reigns will continue to come forward. Some will volunteer others will be forced due to legal issues. They will begin to tell their personal truths about the corruption within these established institutions. There may be risks to their personal lives and their professional careers.

Let the "truth and reconciliation" begin. May the healing start and the lessons be learned about the intensely demoralizing stressful economic "shock" this morally corrupt system has caused the majority who continue to be victimized by the greed and power of the minority.
12:55 PM on 02/08/2012
you speak with a silver tongue and no knowlege. Those that target a financial system to topple it, those that attack the government in arachy are the memoralizing people without conscience. Personal accountability is needed.
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Henry Jumkins
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01:24 PM on 02/08/2012
when one judges others, they are judging themselves.
mavpay
I am WE THE PEOPLE
02:05 PM on 02/08/2012
Tired: I suppose some of the self-loathing haven't been abused enough. What is YOUR definition of sociopathic behavior?
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Rubyfoo
12:53 PM on 02/07/2012
Nice sign in the picture. Too bad there's no spell checker available for that sort of thing.
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WILLIEMOJORISIN
You were expecting Mensa members ?
12:56 PM on 02/07/2012
Too funny.
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Philip DeVon
04:08 PM on 02/07/2012
Yeah, that's funny! You'd never catch a conservati­ve or t3ab@gg3r doing that.

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