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National Mortgage Settlement Doesn't Protect Against Future Fraud Charges, Banks Fear


First Posted: 02/ 7/2012 1:00 pm Updated: 02/ 7/2012 1:00 pm

Executives at some of the nation's largest banks could be slowing down the national settlement over allegations of widespread mortgage fraud, concerned that the deal won't offer sufficient cover from new fraud charges, said a source close to the negotiations. The deal would settle allegations that the banks forged documents and wrongfully foreclosed on borrowers in what has come to be known as the "robo-signing" scandal.

Bank concerns reached fever pitch on Friday when the New York State attorney general's office sued Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase and Wells Fargo, accusing the banks of deceptive and fraudulent use of a private database used to register mortgages.

"I think it's fair to say that the banks are becoming an obstacle to completing this settlement now," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The settlement has become a political flashpoint as the presidential campaign heats up. The Obama administration is pushing for an agreement to present to voters as evidence the president is helping homeowners and getting tough on the big banks that helped spark the housing crisis. Some state attorneys general have been outspoken that the deal is too soft on the banks. These states, New York and California most notably, are also holding back a finalized deal.

Bank executives argue that New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman is using the lawsuit to go after claims already covered under the settlement, said the source. JP Morgan Chase, Ally Financial, Citigroup and Wells Fargo declined to comment. Bank of America could not be reached for comment.

Iowa attorney general Tom Miller said in a statement Monday night that more than 40 states have signed on to the settlement, which "enables us to move forward into the very final stages of the remaining work." Senior administration officials declined to comment.

A handful of state attorneys general are following the lead of California's attorney general, who has raised concerns that banks are getting off too easily with this settlement agreement. California, New York and these other states are working to secure additional aid for their hardest-hit residents and ensure that the banks are held accountable for their alleged fraud. These states have yet to join the deal.

"For the past 13 months we have been working for a resolution that brings real relief to the hardest-hit homeowners, is transparent about who benefits and will ensure accountability," said California attorney general Kamala Harris in a press statement. "We are closer now than we've ever been before but we're not there yet."

The five banks participating in the settlement -- Ally Financial, Citigroup, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and JP Morgan Chase -- will contribute a total of $25 billion to help struggling homeowners if California joins the deal. Without California, that figure drops to $19 billion. To sweeten the deal, negotiators have guaranteed California billions of dollars in homeowner assistance, though there are conflicting reports that value the offer between $6 billion to $15 billion.

As states have learned of California's side deal, they have been sought to secure guarantees of their own. In a conference call on Saturday, Shaun Donovan, Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, confirmed that the administration has been speaking with a number of states about possible guarantees for their homeowners.

Florida -- another state hit hard by the foreclosure crisis -- has yet to join the settlement because it wants a side deal of its own, said a source close to the conversations.

Massachusetts, Nevada and Delaware have also resisted joining the settlement, say sources familiar with the negotiations who spoke on the condition of anonymity, because they share many of the same concerns as California, Florida and New York: The deal delivers too little to homeowners, is too quick to let the banks off the hook for alleged fraud, or some combination of the two.

Despite these setbacks, people involved in the negotiations expect the deal eventually to be finalized. "I think most states will get on board with the settlement," said a source in one state attorney general's office, who was not authorized to speak on the record. "Yes, they are negotiating state-specific stuff, but I don't know of anybody who's definitely turning it down."

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Executives at some of the nation's largest banks could be slowing down the national settlement over allegations of widespread mortgage fraud, concerned that the deal won't offer sufficient cover from ...
Executives at some of the nation's largest banks could be slowing down the national settlement over allegations of widespread mortgage fraud, concerned that the deal won't offer sufficient cover from ...
Executives at some of the nation's largest banks could be slowing down the national settlement over allegations of widespread mortgage fraud, concerned that the deal won't offer sufficient cover from ...
Executives at some of the nation's largest banks could be slowing down the national settlement over allegations of widespread mortgage fraud, concerned that the deal won't offer sufficient cover from ...
 
 
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03:59 PM on 03/13/2012
American Homeowners were sold out to the very ones that engaged in fraud, not wrongdoings, descrencies...but was out and out fraud to profit and swindle for profit. Laws meant to protect people especially in North Carolina were meant to protect people from such actions such as predatory lending and mortgage fraud. TILA practices, NC GS Chapter 75 Usuary Laws, Federal laws, state laws......all ignored and sold out. An individual does not have the resources to fight the crimes performed by AIG and their subsidiary bank in North Carolina. Wvery branch of authority notified just tosses you in another direction or " does not know" when filing complaints on laws broken. Despite having clear proof of laws broken my home was stolen, sold numerous times even during proceedings and all authorities took what ever banks had to say than the victim to include the North Carolina Banking Commission ( who were useless) no wonder since HUD is paid by the commission of banks who just gave HUD workers better mortgage rates for their services. Look this up in Asheville HUD office newsletter. Banks instruct you to go to HUD yet are not obligated ( AIG) to abide by HUD programs which is by choice and is why HAMP failed. I should have known also as the NC Senator I went to assistance with is now on Senate Banking Committee and NC is one of the biggest banking states in the country. Protect banks not tax paying citizens.
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07:23 PM on 02/16/2012
FORECLOSUR­E IN CALIFORNIA A CRISIS OF COMPLIANCE SAN FRANCISCO | FEBRUARY 2012 PREPARED BY AEQUITAS COMPLIANCE SOLUTIONS, INC.

http://www­.scribd.co­m/doc/8184­3675/FOREC­LOSURE-IN-­CALIFORNIA­-A-CRISIS-­OF-COMPLIA­NCE-SAN-FR­ANCISCO-FE­BRUARY-201­2-PREPARED­-BY-AEQUIT­AS-COMPLIA­NCE-SOLUTI­ONS
02:42 AM on 02/13/2012
WELL, if it does not cover your 'everything' CHANGE THE RULES so it does.
STOP depending on OTHERS to fix YOUR PROBLEMS.
02:48 AM on 02/09/2012
MEMO to the Banks:
1. No IT does not protect against FUTURE charges, ONLY THE ONES this time around.
Did you really think this would cover 'future' as well as the past, YOU GUYS REALLY ARE CLUELESS.
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Shebagirl
Be a superdog - protect an underdog!
08:58 PM on 02/08/2012
"As states have learned of California's side deal, they have been sought to secure guarantees of their own. In a conference call on Saturday, Shaun Donovan, Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, confirmed that the administration has been speaking with a number of states about possible guarantees for their homeowners. "

So HUD (federal government) is going to guarantee the revised loans. What are you using as a backstop? Taxpayers' money! No, no, no - you make the Banks guarantee the loans from their general revenue accounts, This may sound good to the people, but I want to see the final agreement to see where the settlement funds are going and how are you going to make the Banksters rewrite the loans and who and what is guaranteeing these loans and if any waivers have been given to the Banksters regarding further liabilities.
05:23 PM on 02/08/2012
For those interested, there is a petition to the President, at the "We The People" section of the Whitehouse.gov web site, asking him to Mandate (instead of suggesting, as he did with HAMP or MHA) help to homeowners, and to bring to justice the parties responsible for the mortgage fraud. The short link is http://wh.gov/0iq - or- https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/prosecute-all-parties-responsible-mortgage-fraud-issue-mandate-so-we-keep-our-homes-wreasonable-loan/d48kzbQ1
03:19 PM on 02/09/2012
Spread the word! Go to http://wh.gov/0iq and go sign!
02:18 AM on 02/10/2012
Thanks so much, Cantusfirmus!
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carolgregor
05:11 PM on 02/08/2012
No deal, fraud is fraud. Stop foreclosures.
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jkanon
A pragmatic progressive
10:25 AM on 02/08/2012
Dear Banks: Don't break the law. Be ethical. Those are your protections against future fraud charges.
10:17 AM on 02/08/2012
For toooooo long the President has been to light.If he were Wise he would throw the book at them.One to shock them.Two to warn the others it will not be tolerated.We do not want fines, we want justice.The law was broken.Either the law stands or it falls in this country.It can not be both ways.Because the country will fall........ The ball is in your court President Obama.
10:05 AM on 02/08/2012
This is like a crook getting caught commiting a crime and then demanding immunity for future crimes he commited. The Bankers have nothing to worry about as their using investors/share holders money to defend themselvs and don't have to worry about criminal prosecution?
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Birdman 49
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09:34 AM on 02/08/2012
I see no reason for the banks to not be sued if they have further cases pop up of fraud. Why should they be allowed to settle then continue and not get sued for it. Makes no since to me.

If you break the law you should be sued for your wrong doing. Pay out the $25 Bill. Then get sued again for continuing with the same practices.
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Trustfunded1
09:05 AM on 02/08/2012
National Mortgage Settlement = Stealth Bank Bailout

The settlement amounts to a transfer from retirement accounts (pension funds, 401 (k)s) and insurers to the banks. And without this subsidy, the biggest banks would be in serious trouble

Always use other peoples money before you ever use your own.
Thats how you asset strip a nation.
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truthfinderddw
07:55 AM on 02/08/2012
Michigan's AG supports the National deal. Of course, he's a Republician, as well as his lock step Govenor. They do not support American values of Accountability, Justice and Regulation, only when it is in their Political Interest. Foreclosure, Fraud and Criminality has no meaning to them. Demand all supporting AG's to back out of the National Settlement, and watch what is uncovered!
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mgrant33301
07:20 AM on 02/08/2012
the banks and more importantly the bankers deserve the greatest punishment that the AGs are legally allowed to deliver. and to offer immunity to other fraud charges is, frankly, criminal.
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lagunasuz
01:46 AM on 02/08/2012
While Obama and the rest of them are dragging their feet and trying to figure out what is best for the banks I think we should all do what the city of Berkeley has just passed. Take all of our money out of the 5 banks that are in the settlement and put our money in credit unions and regional banks. Berkeley just voted to withdraw $300 million from Wells Fargo due to their role in the housing crisis.
If we all did that the banks would listen, the power of the people doing something positive as a nation for all people.
I remember when we all boycotted tuna because the tuna fishermen were killing too many dolphins with the tuna. The tuna industry changed the nets and we all enjoy tuna now, same thing with grapes. We can force the banks to change the way they conduct business, not by sitting on lawns, or breaking into banks, just by withdrawing our funds, one account after another. If Berkeley can do it, so can everybody else.
Let's do it!