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New EU Rules On Derivatives Spark Concerns

Eu Rules Derivatives

First Posted: 02/10/2012 10:48 am Updated: 02/11/2012 11:47 am


* Derivatives industry sees more uncertainty over EU rules

* Lawyers say many months before full picture known

* ESMA, EC see new rules not in full effect until end 2012

By Huw Jones

LONDON, Feb 10 (Reuters) - A deal on European Union rules to crack down on derivatives has triggered fresh anxiety over when the $700 trillion sector must start complying, industry and legal experts said on Friday.

The agreement becomes law when published in the bloc's Official Journal within several weeks. The crucial implementing measures, however, will not be in place until year-end or early 2013.

This disconnect opens up a legal grey area for some.

"There will be some uncertainty as to where exactly this will bite," said Richard Metcalfe, head of global policy at the International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA).

The rules follow a pledge made by G20 world leaders in 2009 to shine a light on a sector central to the financial crisis.

They mandate clearing and reporting of transactions by the end of 2012 so that regulators have an instant snapshot of who is behind every trade when things go wrong, a lesson learned from the collapse of U.S. bank Lehman Brothers in 2008.

"Even though the regulation has been agreed, some companies will not know exactly how it affects them until the details that have been delegated to the Commission have been decided," said Hannah Meakin of law firm Norton Rose.

The European Securities and Markets Authority (ESMA) will thrash out those details by the end of September, with a further three months for the EU's European Commission to approve them.

ESMA said on Friday the law will come into force following the endorsement of its technical standards by the Commission.

A European Commission official said the law is effective once published in the Official Journal but "full practical entry into force" will not take place until ESMA's standards are approved.

"This means the entirety of derivatives rules should be in force early next year, in time to mee the G20 commitments," the Commission official said.

Ed Parker, a derivatives lawyer at Mayer Brown, said it is incredibly unlikely that the EU law would be allowed to come into force without the ESMA standards in place and he expects no problematic legal "gap".


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Industry is viewing the next few months as a double-edged sword: while it may create uncertainty it also means that ESMA has more time to consult and get its rules right.

Many of the changes in the law are already underway.

"The bottom line is that the industry has done a lot more to address systemic risk than what is in this legislation," ISDA's Metcalfe said.

"We have trade repositories up and running or in the works for all major asset classes. You have clearing steaming ahead having already been well developed by the time the crisis happened," Metcalfe said.

Even when the fog over EU rulemaking has lifted, there will still be some unknowns embedded in the rules as banks will not know for sure if their contracts require clearing later on.

Clearing involves extra costs like an initial margin from the customer and industry officials say some clients may balk at this costly change in terms and go to the courts.

Banks are looking to see how ESMA will define when a contract is used for hedging, such as by an airline to guard against adverse price moves in jetfuel, and thereby be exempt from clearing. ESMA will also have to define when a contract is standardised enough so that it must be centrally cleared.

One of the biggest reforms for the industry is not even part of the EU law and likely to be the most expensive.

The Basel Committee of global bank supervisors is to rule how much collateral banks must post to cover their derivatives exposures to clearing houses, which will change the economics of a trade.

"The price banks will quote for long term swap will be a lot higher due to the capital they have to put up against it," said Alex McDonald, CEO of the Wholesale Market Brokers' Association.

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* Derivatives industry sees more uncertainty over EU rules * Lawyers say many months before full picture known * ESMA, EC see new rules not in full effect until end 2012 ...
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MSROADKILL612
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12:07 AM on 02/13/2012
A laymans definition of derivatives may have helped many

as i understand it - its like being able to insure your neighbors house against fire w/ an insolvent insurer if i got my terms right. Gotta be a winner
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12:00 AM on 02/13/2012
Its a good business. So many contracts being wrotten. The hardest part is whether to buy more filing cabinets or an incinerator.
08:12 PM on 02/12/2012
Dirivative Poison paper..banks love letters to the world of 'SUCKERS"
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VPerry24
Carpe Diem!
12:06 PM on 02/12/2012
Merkel tried to do away with derivatives 2 years ago and then Timothy called her, threatened her.
What do we make of that. Then we blame Europe for their trouble when the US is behind it all.
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Tom95134
11:15 AM on 02/12/2012
While we here in the U.S. don't seem to be able to grasp just how insane trading in the wild derivatives market is, the Europeans are taking steps to bring some sanity to their markets.
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Steve Rockett
01:34 AM on 02/12/2012
dump the whole damned EU. They have a terrible and inefficient system run by righties.
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11:56 PM on 02/12/2012
controlling derivatives is right wing? hate to think how u got all those fans
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Steve Rockett
01:16 AM on 02/13/2012
Is that what you saw in my comment? Talk about selective attention. I was referring to having 17 governments, with 3-4 kinds of money. It is a stupid system,
10:11 PM on 02/11/2012
Quote -- "The rules follow a pledge made by G20 world leaders in 2009 to shine a light on a sector central to the financial crisis.

They mandate clearing and reporting of transactions by the end of 2012 so that regulators have an instant snapshot of who is behind every trade when things go wrong, a lesson learned from the collapse of U.S. bank Lehman Brothers in 2008."
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There also needs to be a financial transaction tax so that the banks that created this mess can help pay for it. Banks also need to quit acting like Casinos and get back to the business of lending.
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Intolerantcentrist
No thanks…I brought my own air.
08:29 PM on 02/11/2012
I’m sure Larry Summer is on his way to London to “fix” this problem....
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Tom95134
11:18 AM on 02/12/2012
He may find it's a lot more difficult to take on the EU. Here all he had to do was convince Congress to cut the budget to the CTFC and the efforts that Brooksley Born was making to bring some control to the derivatives trading was killed. Had Ms. Born been successful we might not have had to go through George Bush's near-Depression.
11:50 AM on 02/12/2012
Near depression? We are just getting started.
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aforbes808
Naked is a state of mind.
01:12 PM on 02/12/2012
Brooksley Born is a true American hero. Everyone should see Frontlines' (PBS) "The Warning". Her voice was one of many that was drowned out by greed.
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KarmaPatrol
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07:32 PM on 02/11/2012
Their tax base may be getting tired of bailouts too. The instruments can be useful but only if someone other than the general public is on the line if they fail. Just make it a partnership where if the derivatives explode the wrong way, the CEO, board, etc... are on the hook for the loss.
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Janzee12000
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06:56 PM on 02/11/2012
"crack down on derivatives has triggered fresh anxiety over when the $700 trillion sector must start complying"

Key: $700 trillion sector

There's only abt $200T in the whole friggin' world!!!!!!! These guys are gambling with our lives so they have no right to object to regulations!
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withonor
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06:46 PM on 02/11/2012
They're squirming. The only "uncertainty" is who is going to get left with the bad stuff. We'll get to the point where the world's income doesn't match the interest payment on this ridiculous debt the banks manufactured, and I guess that's when they won't have anywhere to run. How long will it take?
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05:32 PM on 02/11/2012
$700 trillion....... that is about all you need to know... And this is a part of the banking industry no on wants regulated... $700 trillion.... The US Dept is 15 Trillion and everyone is having a heart attack about that... $700 trillion... Think about it.
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nofriendofrepublicans
Mother friendly.
06:53 PM on 02/11/2012
I wonder if we can ask for loan forgiveness? What's 15 tril?
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06:58 PM on 02/11/2012
Yeah they could...but no... they are going to make us, you and I... pay for it. That is how those who run the world, live as high on the hog as they do. Same with the 700 Trillion in worthless paper, somehow the people of the world are going to have to pay for that, mark my words.
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senorlou
06:54 PM on 02/11/2012
It's all worthless paper, that $700 trillion.  I don't know what they're going to do about this.  HUGE problem.
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07:00 PM on 02/11/2012
I assume, since it really is a pile of nothing. They will get us all to pay for part of it and disappear the rest of it.
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02:31 PM on 02/11/2012
Oh my, how will the US banks survive if they can't operate their bucket shop and use it to put nations over their barrel?

In 1910, the Feds tapped the telegraph to catch the curb brokers in their dark trades which typically ripped folks off at the start by selling bets at prices higher than the ticker. Imagine the Feds hacking into those flash traders' screens. Just imagine...you peeking pervs.
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12:18 PM on 02/11/2012
Did I read $700 trillion? I don't think you want to be around for this collapse!
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02:33 PM on 02/11/2012
I think that's just the Euro bets. I heard 1.4 QUADRILLION is in this black market. Quad comes after Tril.
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12:32 AM on 02/13/2012
meh - she will be right mate - see my ativar