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Jerry Sandusky Hearing: Ex-Penn State Coach Takes Stand Over Request For Local Jury

MARK SCOLFORO   02/10/12 09:07 PM ET  AP

BELLEFONTE, Pa. — Jerry Sandusky declared Friday that people have turned against him, moments after the ex-Penn State football coordinator asked a judge for greater freedom while he awaits trial on child sex abuse charges.

Sandusky was in a Centre County courtroom and asked a judge to let him see relatives, including supervised visits with his grandchildren, and friends. He denies the criminal allegations.

The judge could rule early next week on Sandusky's request.

Sandusky also said he felt people who had been welcomed in his home were now trying to keep him confined indoors.

"I've associated with thousands of young people over the years," said Sandusky, 68, the former Penn State defensive coordinator charged with 52 criminal counts involving 10 victims over 15 years. "And now, all of a sudden, because of allegations and perceptions that have been tried to be created of me, now I can't take our dog on my deck and throw out biscuits to him."

Sandusky's home borders an elementary school and its playground. After he sought permission to see relatives and friends and leave his home to help lawyers prepare his case, the attorney general's office countered with a court filing that said neighbors expressed concern for the safety of children. A teacher and intern also reported that he had been watching children from his back deck.

Prosecutors want an order that restricts Sandusky to the inside of his home, which a county probation officer said would be unusual for people under in-home detention.

His lawyer, Joe Amendola, told Judge John Cleland that Sandusky had not sought probation officers' approval for adult visitors, but he was seeking the judge's permission because he sensed the officers were reluctant to do anything out of the ordinary. An investigator said none of the complaints involved Sandusky approaching children.

State prosecutor Jonelle Eshbach told the judge that a clearly defined trip to help his legal team would be one thing, but she was against letting him have visitors. The allegations include charges he sexually attacked a boy in the basement of his home, while his wife was upstairs.

"This home was not safe for children for 15 years, and it's not safe for children now," Eshbach said. "We think that the actual contact, visitation with his grandchildren is not a good idea. And we also feel that way with regard to visitors."

Prosecutors noted that one daughter-in-law strongly objects to increased contact between her children and Sandusky, while Amendola presented the court with letters from Sandusky's children, and notes and drawings from his grandchildren, expressing their desire for increased contact.

He also noted a court-appointed guardian for grandchildren who are part of a custody dispute found no reason Sandusky couldn't see them.

"Comparing with a jail situation, were he in jail, he would have certain rights to have visitors," Amendola told Cleland.

State investigator Anthony Sassano testified that children had noticed Sandusky from their classroom, and that his presence was disrupting school activities.

One neighbor had used a video camera to document Sandusky's time on his deck, Sassano said. He said Sandusky was seen on the video brushing his dog or letting the dog go outside to play. Sandusky cannot walk the dog because of his bail restrictions, Amendola said.

Sandusky said after the hearing that his neighbors have changed toward him.

"Now all of a sudden, these people turn on me when they've been in my home with their kids," he said. "They've attended birthday parties when they've been on that deck. When their kids have been playing in my yard. When their kids have been sled riding when they've asked to sled ride. It's difficult for me to understand."

His home at the end of a dead-end street has a black and orange "No Trespassing" sign at the driveway, while earlier this week the two properties directly adjacent to his home sported white signs supporting the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network.

Widener University law professor Wes Oliver, who observed the proceeding, predicted Cleland was unlikely to order Sandusky to remain indoors.

"Clearly what the prosecution was doing was trying to appease the community," said Oliver, who teaches criminal procedure.

The hearing concerned various issues that have arisen since Sandusky was first arrested in early November. Cleland indicated he hoped to start trial May 14.

In an unusual move, prosecutors are seeking a jury from outside Centre County, home of Penn State and a charity for children that Sandusky founded in 1977, The Second Mile.

Sandusky wants a jury made up of people who live in State College and the surrounding area, and Cleland had him testify to ensure that he was fully aware of the ramifications.

Sandusky said he was aware that he would not be able to launch an appeal, if he is convicted, on grounds the local jury was biased. Sandusky said there was not a viable alternative in Pennsylvania, where his case has been heavily reported.

"I don't believe that would matter, relative to any place (else) in this state," he testified.

Cleland could try to pick a local jury and see whether prosecution concerns are valid about the pervasive publicity and local ties to Penn State and The Second Mile, a charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded, based in nearby State College.

Sandusky smiled as he answered the judge's questions, and after the session Amendola told reporters that his client's body language reflected his personality. Amendola said the charges have devastated Sandusky, however.

"This whole situation, being cast as a pedophile, has crippled him emotionally," he said.

Another issue, the defense's request for early disclosure of grand jury transcripts, received little attention in the courtroom, and afterward Sandusky defense lawyer Karl Rominger said it may end up being resolved by the judge who supervised the jury.

Both defense and prosecution said the mid-May trial date may not be realistic, given that the need for other pretrial issues to be ironed out. Amendola said he believes the case can be heard in two weeks, while prosecutors said a month is more likely.

The scandal led the Penn State trustees to push out university president Graham Spanier and football coach Joe Paterno, who died last month.

Two Penn State administrators are awaiting trial on charges they lied to a grand jury investigating Sandusky and failed to properly report suspected child abuse. Gary Schultz, a former vice president, and Tim Curley, the athletic director, have both denied the allegations.

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Following a three-year investigation, the former Penn State player and assistant coach was indicted on Nov. 4 on 40 counts of sexual crimes against male minors that occurred over the span of more than a decade -- the first alleged recorded incident of abuse dates back to 1994, and Sandusky was first investigated in 1998.. The allegations have rocked Penn State's storied athletic program to its core, raising questions of who in the program knew what -- and how much -- when.
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dbrett480
02:39 PM on 02/18/2012
Gee, I wonder why people turned against him.
03:44 PM on 02/13/2012
I don't know about the attorney. You don't often see one arguing that his client deserves the same rights as were he in jail. If I were a judge, I think I would carry that idea through to it's logical conclusion.
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dbrett480
03:35 PM on 02/18/2012
His attorney isn't that bright.
02:37 PM on 02/13/2012
Even if guilty, he probably won't get declared "guilty" on much, as it would be so long ago & so little actual evidence. Who can know, they might say? Sometimes kids have falsely accused people, etc. Without more, they may not be able to get him convicted.
02:34 PM on 02/13/2012
I notice he doesn't seem to be able to look people in the eyes at all. Am I imagining this or what? I suspect he did some things & can't say he didn't, so is trying to say something - anything. He never realized how much things would get screwed up by what seemed like something so discreet, I suppose, if he did do all those things years ago.
12:16 PM on 02/13/2012
"Now all of a sudden, these people turn on me when they've been in my home with their kids," he said. "They've attended birthday parties when they've been on that deck. When their kids have been playing in my yard. When their kids have been sled riding when they've asked to sled ride. It's difficult for me to understand."

Yes it's real difficult to understand why they have "turned on you" Jerry. That statement alone shows his guilt. An person innocent of these charges would not have such a difficult time understanding that given the allegations. He simply doesn't see what he has done as bad, thus, he doesn't understand why folks would be upset with him for doing it.
11:19 AM on 02/13/2012
Nobody likes me boo hoo. Think about it now everyone knows your out on your deck in clear shot of everyone who wants you removed from the world. I'd stay inside if I were you, or just sit in jail where you won't have you bed, your dog, your food.
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Dr Confuso
Australian/American Broadcast veteran...
09:08 AM on 02/12/2012
He's either got the biggest set ever or else he's just totally lost the plot.
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Natti
if knowledge is the key, then show me the lock...
07:21 AM on 02/12/2012
The perpetrator wants to be the victim.
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lovinlife2
Quite a journey we're on here
07:41 PM on 02/12/2012
Typical of predators--"I was a victim of (similar) abuse as a child and I couldn't help myself."
chemistrydoc
There are some things so serious you have to laugh
09:51 PM on 02/12/2012
More like a totally dissociated sociopath with no empathy, just self pity
01:47 AM on 02/12/2012
It seems paranoid to object to Sandusky on his porch. His neighbors and the news media have him under almost constant watch. The AG seems to be grandstanding again.

If he did leave his porch, his electronic monitor would go off, and the police would come and take him to jail for violating his bail conditions.
12:38 PM on 02/12/2012
Yeah maybe he can't harm the kids but people don't want him leering at the kids in the elementary school either. Maybe he can't go out but he could lure them in.
01:26 PM on 02/14/2012
The AG provided no evidence or witnesses that Sandusky was leering at the kids in the elementary school. It seems like it was all just paranoia.

Sandusky claimed that he sees parents walking their kids to and from school across his property. If they are that afraid, why would they do that?
01:41 AM on 02/12/2012
I think the Attorney General hoped to get Sandusky to plead guilty and avoid a trial. I believe the AG's case is not as strong as the Grand Jury report suggests.

We already know that the Grand Jury report greatly exaggerated McQueary's testimony and did not mention Dr.Dranov and his exculpatory testimony. One wonders what other exaggerations and omissions are in the Grand Jury report that will be revealed at trial.

I expect that some or all of the victims have credibility problems or criminal records. The NY Times reported that after he turned Sandusky in to police, he became very close with another male coach. That coach was warned by the high school not to be alone with victim 1 on trips. To me, that sounds like they thought victim made false allegations against Sandusky and might do it again.

We have heard no testimony from the two unidentified victims suggesting that they remain unidentified. If so, convictions on those charges seem very unlikely. I think the AG would be smart to drop those charges rather than try to convict with no victims to testify.
04:53 PM on 02/13/2012
You could be right: The prosecutor may have a weak case after all.

Then again, if as has been reported, the GOP governor made it a top priority as soon as he took office to give Sandusky $3 million, I see no limit to the guns that can be brought to bear on this case. Obviously, any potential witness with a criminal record would be easy to intimidate into silence. It's even been hinted that elsewhere lawyers and judges have in the past appeared to consider their own careers carefully when the stakes are this high.

Well, it's in the courts now. At least Sandusky gets due process; that's more than can be said for plenty of people now behind bars.
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chris784100
I try to see the good in people.
12:03 AM on 02/12/2012
fu sandusky
08:18 PM on 02/11/2012
Why is Sandusky's lawyer letting him so much as open his mouth - and disgustingly lick his lips? I don't care what happens to this guy but this is bad crisis manangement on so many levels. First, and worst, it rubs salt in the wounds of the victims. Second, it places members of his family in an even more difficult positon, and divides them. Third, it upsets neighbors, the general public and the alumni,staff and students of Penn State who had nothing to do with this and are trying to find ways to deal with this situation and salvage the name of the school that they love. None of this helps to move towards solutions, care of the victims or justice. No sane attorney or crisis manager would let this happen. My theory is, that when Sandusky is convicted, he will appeal on the grounds that he had incompetent counsel. .
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Dr Confuso
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09:10 AM on 02/12/2012
He's a lawyer...all he wants is 'face time'and a high profile.
12:41 PM on 02/12/2012
Maybe the lawyer is hoping for a reality show of his own some day. He seems to have had a colorful enough life to warrant that - he impregnated a 16 year old client when he was 49, she wanted emancipation from her parents.
YOKEL13
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02:33 AM on 02/14/2012
The lawyer may not be able to reign Sandusky in.
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readyinga
07:34 PM on 02/11/2012
Innocent till proven guilty applies to all Americans....IF he is convicted they should castrate then lock him away for life.BUT prove it in court and let a judge sentence him first.
07:21 PM on 02/11/2012
He sounds like a whining child. And who refers to children as "young people"? Young people are people in their twenties.
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Ryana Linette Rogers
07:00 PM on 02/11/2012
Well Sandusky I know this may caome as a surprise to you ! But people tend to get a lil angry, upset , pissed , Homicidal , when you hurt Children! you dug your own grave now go jump in it!