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University of North Dakota 'Fighting Sioux' Controversy Continues

University Of North Dakota

DAVE KOLPACK   02/12/12 01:55 PM ET  AP

FARGO, N.D. — More than two months after the University of North Dakota officially dropped its divisive nickname, the public address announcer at a women's basketball game welcomed it back with a familiar roar: "Here come your Fighting Sioux!"

Last week's return was bittersweet for some supporters of the moniker, reportedly born some 80 years ago from anonymous letters to a student newspaper but since decried as racist by many American Indians and the NCAA.

The nickname was resurrected after residents generated 17,000 signatures seeking to put the issue to a statewide vote. As part of that process, a since-repealed state law requiring the school to use the nickname went back into effect – even though the university, the state Board of Higher Education and local lawmakers want it gone.

However, in this decades-old controversy that has endured seven years of legal and political maneuvering, the moniker's supporters are hoping to pull out a last-ditch victory.

"I'm passionate about this," said Doug Samuelson, 36, of Minot, who signed the petition before a Disney On Ice show in Bismarck. "I guess I feel it's never been a race issue. I always thought it was more about pride than anything else."

Other North Dakota residents, some of whom even back the nickname, have grown weary of the decades-old debate. Steve Huber, a UND graduate, said he did not sign the petition and will vote no on the referendum.

"As hard as this is to say, because I am not a big fan of conceding to those in the minority on an issue, I think it is time to put this thing to bed," said Huber, 37, of Oxbow. "Go with the University of North Dakota. No nickname."

The referendum's backers pooh-poohed state legislators who dropped a push to make the nickname law and brushed aside arguments that NCAA sanctions would hurt the school's athletic programs and its affiliation with the Big Sky Conference.

Some of those signers contacted by The Associated Press said they resent being depicted as hostile to American Indians and being told what to do with the state's flagship university.

A.D. Holm Jr., 56, of Fargo, who attended rival North Dakota State, said he thinks the UND name tradition is important and that there is "resentment" over the push to change it.

UND's athletic teams were first – albeit unofficially – known as the Nodaks beginning in the late 1800s, according to school documents. The student body adopted the name Flickertails in 1911, although a logo was not created. The Sioux nickname was adopted after a campaign by the student newspaper in 1930. It's not clear when it was amended to Fighting Sioux.

The school used various Indian head logos and cartoon illustrations on its uniforms from the 1940s through the 1960s. In 1965, the hockey team began wearing on its jerseys a Blackhawk logo similar to Chicago's NHL team. The school introduced a geometric-shape Indian logo in 1976, but the hockey team continued with the Blackhawk moniker.

The Blackhawk symbol was taken off hockey jerseys in 1993, and in 1999 a new Indian logo designed by UND alumnus Bennett Brien, an enrolled member of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa based in North Dakota, was unveiled. The men's hockey team continued to use that logo after the nickname was retired in December and were waiting on new jerseys, school officials said. Other teams dropped the logo.

Minot attorney Reed Soderstrom, chairman of the referendum campaign, has said he hoped the campaign would end arguments about the nickname "once and for all." His group planned to release a statement this week regarding comments by school officials critical of the referendum.

Soderstrom's group is seeking to both restore the state law requiring UND to keep its nickname and change North Dakota's Constitution to say the school's teams will be known as the Fighting Sioux. That petition is due in August.

Brian Faison, the UND athletic director, said the tone has turned more serious among leaders in the Big Sky who don't want the debate on their campuses, and called it another roadblock to recruiting players.

Asked about the number of petition signers, Faison said there are people who don't believe the seriousness of the NCAA penalties or whether the Big Sky will turn its back on UND.

He called "absurd" suggestions that the Big Sky needs UND more than the school needs the conference.

"On the other hand, we all have to understand that there's an absolutely incredible, passionate fan base out there that loves the logo and nickname and they want to do everything they can to see if it can be protected," he said. "The reality for us is, it's going to have all these other consequences that are really going to damage the athletic program."

Troy Krogstad, 43, of Grand Forks, acknowledged he has concerns about the school losing favor with the Big Sky, but he said he signed the petition anyway because he's unhappy voters haven't had their say.

"I don't think a conference like that should dictate what a school does," Krogstad said.

Holm acknowledged possible setbacks to the athletic program, but was hoping that one last push would change the minds of NCAA and conference officials.

"If they can't win this battle without being penalized and losing their conference affiliation, then I think maybe they need to change it," he said. "But they might as well fight, at least, while they still can."

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08:55 AM on 02/14/2012
What is the possition of the official Sioux tribe on this matter?
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Somebody make me a sandwich!
02:13 PM on 02/13/2012
And once again HufPo decides to omit a post that was neither offensive nor violated any of their guidelines. All I did was counter the comment of rcwells by stating that the Seminole Tribe of Florida has fully endorsed FSU's use of Chief Osceola as their mascot, contacted the NCAA on their behalf and provides the outfit Chief Osceola wears so it would be 100% authentic. Seriously HufPo, do explain what guidline I violated by saying that?
12:16 PM on 02/13/2012
My college was forced to change our mascot a couple years ago because it was offensive. The man that found our college was a Confederate General and so that became our mascot. For the longest time our mascot was a little Confederate general holding a rebel flag. People took offense to it. It wasn't there to promote hate. It was part of the heritage of the school. Now our mascot looks like a Nazi...
02:49 PM on 02/13/2012
Sorry about what happened to your college. But the Confederacy was about the destruction of the United States, though people try to clean up its image nowadays. It's one thing for individuals to celebrate an attempt to destroy the country -- the fact that individuals can spit on their own country and get away with it is part of what makes the United States special -- but it's another thing for institutions to embrace that idea. .... Was there really no way to celebrate your founder without emphasizing his efforts to destroy the country?
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I believe that ignorance is the root of all evil.
11:27 AM on 02/13/2012
This is so ridiculous. When you have a farce of a university like Florida State doing the"tomahawk" cop and that racist chant and a guy dressed as an "Indian" on a horse throwing a flaming spear into the ground at midfield getting the NCAA seal of approval and the University of North Dakota with its respectful and well researched image of a Sioux Chief getting the shaft despite the support of local Indian leaders you know there is no consistency in the enforcement of this policy.
02:51 PM on 02/13/2012
As others here have noted, Florida State works very closely with the Seminoles of Florida to get everything done respectfully with the tribe's approval. I may have missed it, but I have never heard of UND working closely with a "Fighting Sioux" tribe to get everything correct. Just having a few local Indians say, "Ah, I don't care" doesn't cut it.
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rcwells
I believe that ignorance is the root of all evil.
06:19 PM on 02/13/2012
There have been many meetings with local Sioux leaders for over the last 10 years. I remember 5 years ago that FSU was working very closely with the Seminole Indians offering several financial inducements. The Tomahawk Chop is insensitive at least and strays into the silly and racist realm. The chant and mascot are simply racist.
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11:07 AM on 02/13/2012
(part III)

The logo has to go, not because it is intrinsically racist, or used by the school in a racist manner; but because regardless of how it is used, it will always be a flashpoint for unnecessary controversy and pain.
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tomteboda
11:07 AM on 02/13/2012
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At the same time, there are people who are offended by the use of the name under any circumstances. There is nothing logical or rational about their being offended, its an emotion, and no amount of logical or empassioned arguments will change the fact that they simply do not like the use of the nickname. They see it as cultural appropriation, and some have gone so far as to write that it is the root of nearly all ills in the Reservations in the USA.

The Native Americans who attend deserve better than to be drug into this conflict in the deeply personal way which they are. No student should have to defend their decision to attend a state university with such a rich array of cultural programs against charges of "abandoning your people", a charge I've heard levied by protesters at students. The non-Native students at UND deserve better, too. They deserve to not be labeled "racists" and "bigots" by professional protesters at every turn. All students deserve to interact with each other without divisive accusations hanging over everyone's heads. UND has one of the largest percentages of Native American students of any college in the nation. It has one of the oldest Native American Studies programs. These things should be celebrated. Instead the logo issue turns them all too often into sidelines or even further causes for misunderstanding.
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tomteboda
11:06 AM on 02/13/2012
I believe the NCAA ruling was itself abusive. Note that the big schools with tons of power and money (such as Illinois and Florida) got to keep their team names, while the smaller ones were forced to change theirs (such as Utah and North Dakota).

As a UND alumnus, and the daughter of alumni, I have seen this tragic controversy over the last twenty five years. It was, as the university accreditation board said almost a decade ago, "a superficial issue dragging down the reputation of an outstanding school".

I understand why people are so passionate about keeping the name; and its more than tradition. Its North Dakota heritage, it is regional ties, it is long-standing good relationships with the local Dakota and Ojibwe tribes. The largest part of resentment against the name change comes because its felt that insensitive outsiders are projecting their issues on the school, rather than seeing all the good things for Native Americans at UND.
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