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Anti-Legal Immigration Ads Mark New Extreme In Immigration Debate (VIDEO)

The Huffington Post   Cristina Costantini First Posted: 02/14/2012 4:36 pm Updated: 02/15/2012 9:53 am

The debate over controlling illegal immigration has pulsed throughout election cycles for decades. But recently, a more radical strain of anti-immigrant thought, which advocates lower legal immigration levels, is gaining some momentum.

In the past few months, new advertisements which promote a decrease in legal immigration rates have found their way to the airways of Fox News, a channel founded by legal immigrant Rupert Murdoch.

The ads are sponsored by advocacy groups like NumbersUSA, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), and Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), who argue that even legal immigrants pose a threat to American jobs and America's stability.

The controversial ads seem at odds with a new study released by the National Foundation for American Policy in December which found that nearly half of the top 50 venture-backed firms in the country had foreign-born founders, and that more than 75 percent of such companies had foreign-born professionals as part of their "key management personnel."

The movement to lower legal immigration also counters the platforms of many of the Republican frontrunners in the Presidential debate, like Mitt Romney, who described himself in a September debate as a "great proponent of legal immigration."

"Many of you are living proof of the unique strength of America that is constantly renewed by new Americans," he said to his audience. "The promise of America has brought some of the world's best and brightest to our shores," he added.

In the advertisement by CAPS, the spokesperson says that legal immigrants "take good jobs in places like California," while many Californians are out of work. And FAIR argues that legal immigration has reached an all time high, posing a threat to American prosperity.

But, many of the top entrepreneurs in the country argue just the opposite. In 2008, Bill Gates testified before Congress in support of increasing the number of H-1B visas allotted for high-skilled workers, and elongating F-1 visas for foreign-born students, arguing that such immigrants are assets to the American economy and are actually great job creators.

Gates said in his speech before of Congress:

U.S. innovation has always been based, in part, on the contributions of foreign-born scientists and researchers. For example, a recent survey conducted by several universities showed that between 1995 and 2005, firms with at least one foreign-born founder created 450,000 new U.S. jobs. Moreover, as a recent study shows for every H-1B holder that technology companies hire, five additional jobs are created around that person."

Last week, Reuter's Felix Salmon wrote that the denial rate of visas for high-skilled immigrants had risen in recent years, even when immigration rates from some countries had not, as was the case with India.

Other notable businessmen and politicians, including Mayor Bloomberg and Rupert Murdoch, testified in front of Congress in 2010, advocating an overhaul of the immigration system and an increase in visas given for skilled foreign-born immigrants.

Murdoch, the founder of Fox News, said in his testimony that, "As an immigrant, I chose to live in America because it is one of the freest and most vibrant nations in the world."

"And as an immigrant, I feel an obligation to speak up for immigration policies that will keep America the most economically robust, creative and freedom-loving nation in the world," he said.

WATCH: An advertisement paid for by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)

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The debate over controlling illegal immigration has pulsed throughout election cycles for decades. But recently, a more radical strain of anti-immigrant thought, which advocates lower legal immigratio...
The debate over controlling illegal immigration has pulsed throughout election cycles for decades. But recently, a more radical strain of anti-immigrant thought, which advocates lower legal immigratio...
 
 
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12:39 PM on 11/04/2012
Why is America importing 80,000 people a year as "legal immigrants" when she has 24 million of her own...unemployed ? The newcomers either would pre-empt an American from taking a job or join the unemployment queue.

Here is the answer... she does not get it that, stopping immigration (mostly 3rd world) would not be a racist act. It would be the correct, practical thing to do

The simple point is lost on the leadership and populace of the nation which sent a man to the moon in 1969... because of non-acknowledgement of collective racism... leading to pretense "we are a non-racist country"... leading to the mistaken idea that stopping immigration (mostly 3rd world) would be racist... therefore continue.
RTGerdes
Registered Republican Since 1971
04:18 PM on 05/19/2012
Incredible as it sounds, illegal immigrants have been taking advantage of a tax loophole to defraud the government out of billions of dollars.

The loophole is a refundable tax credit intended to help hard working low-income American families with children. Known as the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC), families are able to receive up to $1,000 per child. Incredibly, illegal immigrants have been able to claim this tax credit even without a Social Security number. By abusing the child tax credit, illegals have received average payments of $1,800, with some people receiving as much as $10,000, according to the Treasury Department. The abuse doesn’t end there—a group of illegal immigrants in Indiana received nearly $30,000 after claiming 20 dependents that live in Mexico and have never even been to the United States.

Our tax code should not reward those who enter the country illegally!

Vern Buchanan
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lily008
Figures don't lie, but liars figure.
04:07 AM on 03/09/2012
Ugh this is just disgusting racism at it's best!
02:18 PM on 03/01/2012
Who is paying for these advertisements? Specialist unions, like computer programmers?

Generally, Democrats seem to be the ones who want to increase the number of low skilled immigrants, and Republicans want more high skilled immigrants. These advertisements are obviously aimed at skilled trades, who feel their wages are being depressed by immigrants. That said, I don't even think it's likely that Democrats will even pass a law limiting skilled immigration anytime soon. Obama might have tightened H1B regulations, but there are still many being awarded. All in all, this is not a right vs. left issue, it is more nuanced then that.
12:27 AM on 02/21/2012
maybe they should replace it with this video www.theguzmanshow.com
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Tresmilanos
If you say nothing--you are nothing.
02:03 AM on 02/20/2012
To see more conservati­ve paper-tige­rs projecting a false image . . .like the ones below, see this link.

http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­2012/02/18­/paul-babe­u-mitt-rom­ney_n_1286­531.html
12:28 AM on 02/21/2012
www.theguzmanshow.com
06:59 PM on 02/19/2012
What is so extreme about advocating for population numbers that are both environmentally sustainable and economically sound? Anyone who cherishes unspoiled land, maintainable water and food supplies and smart growth should be in favor of regulating the flow of humanity across our borders.
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doublehappi
03:57 PM on 02/21/2012
Do you have any factual/scientific studies which suggest Immigration in america has an impact on the quality of air or the environmental impact ? or even on the quality of life?

Let me give you an example here - just so we put things into perspective.

UK has about 70 million people, it is approximately tyhe size of minnesota. (USA has about 300Mm)

The qulity of life, the health care, is higher than the US.

Africa on the other hand is the size of the combined total size of India, Russia, USA, and south america with a fraction of the population.
Yet, you and i know the quality of life there.
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massjim
Dem? Repub? Is there a difference?
04:00 PM on 02/23/2012
Yes, I assumed that immigration numbers were set yearly based on available economic / job data.
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
01:57 AM on 02/18/2012
"A new global poll by Ipsos measuring citizens’ perception of immigration in 24 countries has just been released.  Despite what politicians around the world would have their countrymen believe, the average person isn’t buying the benefits of current immigration policy.

The poll proves that our collective gut is indeed in line with reality: 80% of world citizens, from Russia and Brazil to America and India, feel that immigration has increased over the past five years, with 52% feeling it’s too much.  Of respondents, 45% believe this immigration has a negative impact.  This is legal, above-board immigration with which people are taking issue.
While politicians in America typically focus on the 12 million or so illegal immigrants, they often ignore that the country is taking in new legal immigrants at a rate of over a million every year.

America may have been built on immigration, but it wasn’t the kind of mass Third World immigration that we’ve been seeing over the past 40 years."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45352

Companies go out of their way, not to hire US workers. Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
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RobietheCat
Totalitarianism is the work of VERY small minds
11:06 PM on 02/17/2012
But these guys make a good case for even more stringent safeguards.
We are playing with fire here folks.

"A Newport Coast man has been sentenced to 30 months in prison for conspiring to sell counterfeit electrical circuits to the U.S. military, defense contractors and others, actions called a "ticking time bomb" in court documents.

Mustafa Abdul Aljaff, 32, who owned MVP Micro and other companies operating from the same location in Irvine, was the mastermind of a "highly sophisticated fraud scheme......."

The companies involved distributed the circuits to about 420 buyers in the United States and abroad, including the U.S. Department of the Navy and defense contractors...

link: http://www.ocregister.com/news/aljaff-340606-counterfeit-circuits.html

And this:

"O.C. company illegally exported computers to Iran

The Costa Mesa outfit sent the machines through Dubai without first obtaining licenses or authorizations from the U.S. government.

The owner of a Costa Mesa company pleaded guilty Thursday in federal court to charges related to unlawfully sending computers from the United States to Iran, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

Massoud Habibion, 49, and the company Online Micro LLC pleaded guilty in the District of Columbia to conspiracy....

Habibion faces a possible five years in federal prison."

link: http://www.ocregister.com/news/habibion-340631-company-united.html

- BOTH stories from TODAY'S paper
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RobietheCat
Totalitarianism is the work of VERY small minds
08:33 PM on 02/17/2012
Clearly we have no control over our immigration system, just today the illegal alien who tried to bomb DC:

"Amine El Khalifi, 29, who allegedly had overstayed his visa after arriving in the U.S. when he was 16, was charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction against government property. FBI agents had been closely monitoring him for more than a year in an undercover sting operation."

- Why would we ever give a 16 year old from Morroco a visa, and then not follow up?

link: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-affidavit-bomb-plot-suspect-said-he-hoped-to-kill-30-people-20120217,0,3826228.story
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
07:58 PM on 02/17/2012
The illegals and their shills in all forms of media are to blame for this because the media continually lumps legal immingrants in with any discussion of illegal immigrants. They are all just "immigrants". In the minds of many Americans then there has been a turn against ALL immigrants. And this is totally understandable. The illegals and groups like LaRaza are ruining it for legal immigrants in America as far as public opinion goes. This story is not surprising at all to me.
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mozartmaid2
opera singing fighter for truth
03:35 PM on 02/17/2012
At which generation do you stop telling people to leave? The second? The third? The fourth? America was founded by immigrants, and this is nothing but prejudice. If people come here legally, get an education, and find work, there shouldn't be a problem. It's a red herring, IMO. Where people should be complaining about jobs is to the corporations who keep outsourcing and closing factories. Blame the people who created the job shortage, not the people who are living honestly.
04:37 PM on 02/17/2012
You are extremely ignorant to say this is nothing but prejudice. According to the Constitution I should still have the right to own a cannon. Things change as time moves on and we evolve. People like you are nothing more than another lobbyist group pushing your agenda under the guise of human rights.
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pullmafingerquik
I don't care if you like me or not,like it or not!
02:04 PM on 02/17/2012
Very true. Limit legal immigration and uphold all laws in reference to illegals in our country. Arrest them and deport them!
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09:19 AM on 02/17/2012
Both the left and right do a great disservice by over simplifying and deamonizing. Here are the issues that need to be balanced. Our native population has a birth rate too low to replace and pay the social security and Medicaid costs of an aging population retiring or leaving the workforce. Our economy requires fewer higher paid jobs because of the productivity improvements afforded by technology. Lower paid low skill immigrants are not allowing market economics to work by allowing lower labor supply to demand higher wages. Add to that a social safety net that encourages workers to stay out of the work force because they would have to take a pay cut to go back to work. Our politicians should become leaders instead of a professional elected elite and look for solutions that serve all people
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frankg3400
11:43 AM on 02/17/2012
So where will it ever end? We will continue to let more and more in to cover SS and Medicare costs, then we will need more to cover those we let in previously to cover the costs, it will be an never ending cycle until we will be living shoulder to shoulder with not enough resources for the ever increasing population. You have to look beyond your nose and the implications of the future not just about now. We need to devise other ways to face the future costs of these programs or adjust them accordingly. We just can't continue to allow unabated amount of population growth.
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RobietheCat
Totalitarianism is the work of VERY small minds
08:38 PM on 02/17/2012
True.
08:10 AM on 02/18/2012
Exactly! That was my central thought. Where are our leaders? It's a very difficult problem and both sides of the aisle do nothing. Thank you for your response.