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The 10 Countries Deepest In Debt: 24/7 Wall St.

First Posted: 02/15/2012 9:58 am   Updated: 02/15/2012 9:58 am

From 24/7 Wall St.: The Greek government on Sunday agreed to drastic austerity measures in the hopes of securing a 130 billion euro bailout from international creditors — the second bailout in two years. The measures include dramatic cuts in pay, pensions and government services.

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The creditors, which include the European Commission, the International Monetary Fund and the European Central Bank, demanded that by Wednesday Greece show clear evidence of how it will make 325 million euro of the 3.3 billion euro cuts. Greece, which has among the worst debt in the world, faces default as early as March if it does not get the bailout.

In addition to Greece, several European Union member countries now face overwhelming government debt. On Monday, Moody’s downgraded six countries, including Italy, Portugal and Spain. Other countries, like Germany and Japan, also have burdensome debts, but unlike Greece or other troubled EU members, their debt problems are not unmanageable. 24/7 Wall St. has identified the countries that have the highest debt-to-GDP ratios.

Many of the countries with the highest debt levels relative to their gross domestic products have been hit hardest by the global recession. Greece, Ireland and Portugal all have unemployment rates above 14 percent. Wealth in these countries is extremely low. In the case of Portugal, GDP per capita in 2010 was just $25,575, lower than every country in the developed world except Slovakia. The combination of extremely high debt, high liabilities and sinking national productivity has resulted in credit downgrades to below investment grade, or junk, bond status. Moody’s rates Ireland “Ba2,” Greece “Ca,” and just downgraded Portugal to “Ba3.”

The increasingly dire situations of several of these nations have forced their governments to enact desperate measures or face financial and economic ruin. Greece is not the only country to recently pass and implement austerity measures. In November 2011, Portugal passed a new austerity budget, which raised taxes on the population and cut the wages of all government employees. In Italy, the retirement age has been raised, and levees on pensioners have gone up as well.

Not all of the countries with extremely high debt relative to their GDPs are doing poorly. Government debt of Germany and Japan is high, but these countries can afford it. Their high debt-to-GDP ratios are balanced by relatively strong economies and wealthy populations. Germany has the highest GDP in Europe and the fourth highest in the world. While Japan's economy was derailed by the earthquake and resulting nuclear tragedy, it remains the third-largest economy by GDP.

Though countries like Germany, France, UK, the U.S. and Japan continue to have relatively stable economies despite their massive debt, this may not always be the case. Last year, Standard & Poor's downgraded both France and the U.S. from perfect AAA ratings. Yesterday, Moody’s gave France and the UK negative outlooks.

While many of these economies have started to recover from the recession, they continue to accrue debt. In some cases, even the world’s wealthiest economies have been forced to pass austerity measures of their own. Many U.S. states, for example, have made substantial cuts to government workforces.

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24/7 Wall St. ranked developed countries by estimated general government debt as a percentage of nominal GDP for 2011, based on data provided by Moody’s Statistical Handbook for 2011. 24/7 also reviewed nominal GDP, nominal GDP growth, GDP per capita (PPP) and sovereign credit rating from Moody’s. All of the data from the handbook is an estimate for 2011, with the exception of GDP per capita, which is for 2010. Unemployment rates are from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

These are the 10 countries deepest in debt, according to 24/7 Wall St.:

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  • 10. United Kingdom

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 80.9 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $1.99 trillion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $35,860 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $2.46 trillion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 8.4 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Aaa Although the UK has one of the largest debt-to-GDP ratios among developed nations, it has managed to keep its economy relatively stable. The UK is not part of the eurozone and has its own independent central bank. The UK's independence has helped protect it from being engulfed in the European debt crisis. Government bond yields have remained low. The country also has retained its Aaa credit rating, reflecting its secure financial standing. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 9. Germany

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 81.8 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $2.79 trillion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $37,591 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $3.56 trillion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 5.5 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Aaa As the largest economy and financial stronghold of the EU, Germany has the most interest in maintaining debt stability for itself and the entire eurozone. In 2010, when Greece was on the verge of defaulting on its debt, the IMF and EU were forced to implement a 45 billion euro bailout package. A good portion of the bill was footed by Germany. The country has a perfect credit rating and an unemployment rate of just 5.5 percent, one of the lowest in Europe. Despite its relatively strong economy, Germany will have one of the largest debt-to-GDP ratios among developed nations of 81.8 percent, according to Moody's projections. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 8. France

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 85.4 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $2.26 trillion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $33,820 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $2.76 trillion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 9.9 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Aaa France is the third-biggest economy in the EU, with a GDP of $2.76 trillion, just shy of the UK's $2.46 trillion. In January, after being long-considered one of the more economically stable countries, Standard & Poor's downgraded French sovereign debt from a perfect AAA to AA+. This came at the same time eight other euro nations, including Spain, Portugal and Italy, were also downgraded. S&P's action represented a serious blow to the government, which had been claiming its economy as stable as the UK's. Moody's still rates the country at Aaa, the highest rating, but changed the country's outlook to negative on Monday. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 7. United States

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 85.5 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $12.8 trillion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $47,184 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $15.13 trillion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 8.3 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Aaa U.S. government debt in 2001 was estimated at 45.6 percent of total GDP. By 2011, after a decade of increased government spending, U.S. debt was 85.5 percent of GDP. In 2001, U.S. government expenditure as a percent of GDP was 33.1 percent. By 2010, is was 39.1 percent. In 2005, U.S. debt was $6.4 trillion. By 2011, U.S. debt has doubled to $12.8 trillion, according to Moody's estimates. While Moody's still rates the U.S. at a perfect Aaa, last August Standard & Poor's downgraded the country from AAA to AA+. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 6. Belgium

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 97.2 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $479 billion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $37,448 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $514 billion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 7.2 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Aa1 Belgium's public debt-to-GDP ratio peaked in 1993 at about 135 percent, but was subsequently reduced to about 84 percent by 2007. In just four years, the ratio has risen to nearly 95 percent. In December 2011, Moody's downgraded Belgium's local and foreign currency government bonds from Aa1 to Aa3. In its explanation of the downgrade, the rating agency cited "the growing risk to economic growth created by the need for tax hikes or spending cuts." In January of this year, the country was forced to make about $1.3 billion in spending cuts, according to The Financial Times, to avoid failing "to meet new European Union fiscal rules designed to prevent a repeat of the eurozone debt crisis." <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 5. Portugal

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 101.6 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $257 billion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $25,575 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $239 billion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 13.6 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Ba3 Portugal suffered greatly from the global recession -- more than many other countries -- partly because of its low GDP per capita. In 2011, the country received a $104 billion bailout from the EU and the IMF due to its large budget deficit and growing public debt. The Portuguese government now "plans to trim the budget deficit from 9.8 percent of gross domestic product in 2010 to 4.5 percent in 2012 and to the EU ceiling of 3 percent in 2013," according Business Week. The country's debt was downgraded to junk status by Moody's in July 2011 and downgraded again to Ba3 on Monday. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 4. Ireland

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 108.1 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $225 billion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $39,727 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $217 billion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 14.5 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Ba1 Ireland was once the healthiest economy in the EU. In the early 2000s, it had the lowest unemployment rate of any developed industrial country. During that time, nominal GDP was growing at an average rate of roughly 10 percent each year. However, when the global economic recession hit, Ireland's economy began contracting rapidly. In 2006, the Irish government had a budget surplus of 2.9 percent of GDP. In 2010, it accrued a staggering deficit of 32.4 percent of GDP. Since 2001, Ireland's debt has increased more than 500 percent. Moody's estimates that the country's general government debt was $224 billion, well more than its GDP of $216 billion. Moody's rates Ireland's sovereign debt at Ba1, or junk status. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 3. Italy

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 120.5 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $2.54 trillion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $31,555 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $2.2 trillion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 8.9 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> A3 Italy's large public debt is made worse by the country's poor economic growth. In 2010, GDP grew at a sluggish 1.3 percent. This was preceded by two years of falling GDP. In December 2011, the Italian government passed an austerity package in order to lower borrowing costs. The Financial Times reports that according to consumer association Federconsumatori, the government's nearly $40 billion package of tax increases and spending cuts will cost the average household about $1,500 each year for the next three years. On Monday, Moody's downgraded Italy's credit rating to A3, from A2. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 2. Greece

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 168.2 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $489 billion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $28,154 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $303 billion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 19.2 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Ca Greece became the poster child of the European financial crisis in 2009 and 2010. After it was bailed out by the rest of the EU and the IMF, it appeared that matters could not get any worse. Instead, Greece's economy has continued to unravel, prompting new austerity measures and talks of an even more serious default crisis. In 2010, Greece's debt as a percent of GDP was 143 percent. Last year, Moody's estimates Greece's debt increased to 163 percent of GDP. Greece would need a second bailout worth 130 billion euro -- the equivalent of roughly $172 billion -- in order to prevent the country from defaulting on its debt in March. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

  • 1. Japan

    <strong>Debt as a percentage of GDP:</strong> 233.1 percent <strong>General government debt:</strong> $13.7 trillion <strong>GDP per capita (PPP):</strong> $33,994 <strong>Nominal GDP:</strong> $5.88 trillion <strong>Unemployment rate:</strong> 4.6 percent <strong>Credit rating:</strong> Aa3 Japan's debt-to-GDP ratio of 233.1 percent is the highest among the world's developed nations by a large margin. Despite the country's massive debt, it has managed to avoid the type of economic distress affecting nations such as Greece and Portugal. This is largely due to Japan's healthy unemployment rate and population of domestic bondholders, who consistently fund Japanese government borrowing. Japanese vice minister Fumihiko Igarashi said in a speech in November 2011 that "95 percent of Japanese government bonds have been financed domestically so far, with only 5 percent held by foreigners." Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda has proposed the doubling of Japan's 5 percent national sales tax by 2015 to help bring down the nation's debt. <a href="http://247wallst.com/2012/02/14/the-tencountries-deepest-in-debt/#ixzz1mSdyJAeo" target="_hplink">Read more at 24/7 Wall St.</a>

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Jimmy Wang
Speak the truth. Or else it will always catch up
03:16 PM on 03/01/2012
Socialized medicine is costing Japanese citizen dearly and many Japanese citizen have visit their doctor on daily basis which I found to be obsurd. That said, $10/day for a hospital visit is something that we should push for and private practice is not allowed just like Canada. We already have government run health care system in the USA. Just expand our VA so you will have both and allow the public to choose the government plan vs private insurance. That would be most idealistic in the USA.
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
10:17 PM on 02/15/2012
Further proof that Big Government welfare states are a failure. Time to get back to free market capitalism and dial back ruinous government intervention in the economy.
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intellifran
insert clever line here...
12:45 PM on 02/21/2012
yes, but there is some government intervention that is necessary. The deregulation of banks is what lead us to our current trouble. Necessary regulations should be welcomed and unethical business practices should be stopped.
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
10:24 PM on 02/21/2012
Intellifran:

Capitalism is predicated on regulations and the rule of law. In fact, it is a central principle that natural rights to property, liberty, and equality be well institutionalized and protected through the rule of law, power of contracts, etc

However, the guiding principle of regulation is that it should not violate the natural rights of one group over another with government relegated to the limited role of protector of property and as a regulator of fair and equal process for all with rules, laws and regulations that apply to all EQUALLY or to no one at all; rather than what it is today, a biased distributor of fair outcome for some at the expense of others.

The housing crises was not by a lack of regulations it was caused by government intervention in the market.

To list a few:

1) The Fed kept interest rates low to spur the economy and drive growth and unemployment. This intervention caused a bubble.

2) The Treasury issued debt to fund wars and welfare (a bulk of our budget are now market-distorting transfer payments). This huge amount of borrowing by taking advantage of the savings glut out of Asia was not sterilized by the Fed and added to the bubble.
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
10:25 PM on 02/21/2012
3) Regulations that gave preference to housing loans as risk-free over other types of assets created the incentive for banks to produce and hold more of them since it had a lesser impact on Tier 1 capital requirements

4) Tax policy that gives advantage to debt over equity (interest payments are tax deductable dividends are taxed) which encourages banks and people to lever as much as possible.

5) Further tax policies that promoted housing with high leverage (again interest is tax deductable) with no/low tax on housing capital gains.

6) The direction of Freddie and Fannie to take on greater and greater subprime mortgage loads by congress created a moral hazard with them becoming the buyer of first and last resort. In addition, direct competition in the market with capital cost (due to government backing) lower than private banks caused additional yield chasing and more risk perverse behavior by all market participants. They fact that F&F basically set the underwriting standards for the market created further moral and financial hazard.

7) HUD, Fed, and Congressional interference in private markets that forced mortgage underwriters to stop redlining and lend to more risky borrowers.

8) A increased history (Chrysler, Continental Illinois, Mexico debt holders, LTCM, S&L, etc) of bailouts that gives lenders and borrowers as sense that the government will not let them fail creating an implicit moral hazard to take on more risk than one normally would.
07:46 PM on 02/15/2012
British debt is around £1.1 Trillion. Not £1.99 trillion. You missed out some zeroes. Like £1.0099 trillion.
05:25 PM on 02/15/2012
What are these numbers? US debt should really be at 15 trillion right? If it's only 12.8 trillion why do people fight over Congress the whole last year to raise it to 16?
05:27 PM on 02/15/2012
I meant the debt ceiling. Damn how do I edit the comment in HuffPost?
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Bret Alan Cebulla
Aime-Toi
05:23 PM on 02/15/2012
Furthermore, who prints their money? I'll bet it's not their own Governments. I'll bet it's much like The Fed.
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Bret Alan Cebulla
Aime-Toi
05:20 PM on 02/15/2012
Don't all of these countries have or belong to some for of Central or World bank?
05:03 PM on 02/15/2012
Some of you should learn to make a difference between a social driven state who is not necessary a socialist state , (as are most of the northern-european countries)..... And a Marxists leninist system / near dictatorship such as Cuba and Venezuela .
Having a strong social system do not means you are a socialist state !!
Somme of your so called socialist states, have left wing governments !
All these FOX news junkies in the US should spent their energy on trying to do something for their country and go out work instead of taking welfare instead of criticize the "Socialist" states.
If you hate them so much, stay home ! Don't visit these countries, keep al your factories home, don't have your PC made in China, make your 501's at home, put your Nike shoes yourself in your own towns, keep your Mc Donald's in the US, don't buy french wine, no european cheeses, Don't by any foreign ( socialist) goods, Make a big fence around the US and dwell in your own misery of unemployment and debt. Also, deport all these mexicans you take advantage off and have the over-weighted, obese but proud american citizens go in the fields and pick the tomatoes and potatoes' , you will resolve the unemployment don't you think ! Americans, stop trying to export the american dream, it does NOT work somewhere else !
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Erikhuffpost
Anything can happen within the next 5 minutes
01:06 PM on 02/16/2012
It's the "S" word here. It is strictly off limits. I used it once, but I think I got away with it.
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intellifran
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12:50 PM on 02/21/2012
Having a McDonalds in every country is the defintion of capitalim, so I don't know where you're going with that. Also, may Americans would love to bring out factories back, but some companies just don't want to pay American wages. Regardless I think the first think we should do (that you failed to mention), is ban all BP oil. I wonder how that wold effect British retirement funds...
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Mary Mendy
be honest but have a sense of humour
04:23 PM on 02/15/2012
I had to go back through that list again, really? Japan? I would never have guessed.
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09:31 PM on 02/29/2012
They really appear to be managing it well, huh? I wouldn't have guessed, either.
trish333
Progressivism is the new fascism.
03:37 PM on 02/15/2012
The last gasps of European socialism is in full view.
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Ansdlmol
03:41 PM on 02/15/2012
But the four most socialist of the European countries are not mentioned. The countries deepest in the mire are fundamentally free enterprise proponents.
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IfIonlyknew
Go ahead....Say something funny.
03:52 PM on 02/15/2012
Facts don't make any sense to Baggers.
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sonoflars
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional
03:08 PM on 02/15/2012
I find it amusing that a"socialist country" like Norway don't make this list. They are ranked as the best country on the planet to live in. Maybe socialism isn't the worst thing in the world that can happen to a country.
trish333
Progressivism is the new fascism.
03:11 PM on 02/15/2012
I don't see Cuba or Venezuela on the list either but I have no desire to emulate them.
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Thomas Green
04:51 PM on 02/15/2012
According to a recent poll Canadians are happy with the results of the War of 1812. We managed to keep your infection out of our country.
06:46 PM on 02/15/2012
Exactly! If a "socialist" country is on this list, then it's there because socialism made its economy fall apart. If a "socialist" country is not on the list, it doesn't matter because it's still terrible. Your logic is really airtight in its own way. It's at least fact-tight.
03:02 PM on 02/15/2012
since the usa can just print up currancy it should print up $500 billion and give it to Greece. or make greece the 51st state
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Ansdlmol
03:46 PM on 02/15/2012
You can't just print up money. You have to borrow to cover the paper. The reason why Cuba and the like do not appear is because they have not borrowed in order to prop up their standard of living......nor indeed have they spent millions/trillions fighting foreign wars and buying grossly over priced, useless armaments.
04:22 PM on 02/15/2012
no. we have been printing up billions in the QE program. never mind the usual increases. we only borrow because we dont want to have other loose faith in the value of the currency. borrowing is stupid we should just recall all of the debt with new money. same as the QE but on a huge scale. the currency will collapse but so what.
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intellifran
insert clever line here...
12:53 PM on 02/21/2012
You would not call armaments "useless" if you have ever served. Bite your tongue.
trish333
Progressivism is the new fascism.
02:43 PM on 02/15/2012
Part 2

" And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.
Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006
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Hoosierbrad
I know it when I see it.
03:03 PM on 02/15/2012
Thank you for your public service announcement in favor of returning to the tax rates in effect the last time our country ran a surplus! The President of that administration was a Democrat, by the way.
03:03 PM on 02/15/2012
someone must have told him that he can print money.
trish333
Progressivism is the new fascism.
02:42 PM on 02/15/2012
Part 1-

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.
Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.
Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006
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Hoosierbrad
I know it when I see it.
02:40 PM on 02/15/2012
Funny about this list, every con in the world thinks the sky is falling because our debt is at 85% of our gdp, but look at Japan!

Our debt to gdp was over 100% in 1948, and we grew out of it; we can do it again.
05:03 PM on 02/15/2012
Only Republicans care b/c they're trying to tank the economy AGAIN to try to unseat Obama and it's not working. All at the expense of the people who could be back to work if they'd actually created any of the jobs jobs jobs they said they would over a year ago. What animals.
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Bret Alan Cebulla
Aime-Toi
05:30 PM on 02/15/2012
I was debating (and I use that term loosely) with someone today about Wisconsin. I reminded this person that after all Walker's promises there is still a budget deficit, the response I got was "well it's smaller than Doyle's" So apparently deficits are ok as long as it's a Republican, and as long as it is smaller than a Democrat's deficit. At least he was consistently inconsistent.
07:51 PM on 02/15/2012
I keep seeing mournful references to Japan's lost decade - the decade when unemployment never rose above 6.5% and when exports boomed.
02:39 PM on 02/15/2012
The affordable healthcare act is not affordable to the people who are paying for it. I thought it was not rationing.