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Jerry Sanders, GOP Mayor Of San Diego, Pushes For Marriage Equality: 'History Is Going To Judge Us'

Posted: 02/15/12 04:38 PM ET

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San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders, center, speaks at a news conference in San Francisco, Calif., on Jan. 19, 2010. Sanders took the witness stand on behalf of two same-sex couples suing to overturn Proposition 8, California's voter-approved gay marriage ban, which has since been ruled unconstitutional by a federal appeals court.

WASHINGTON -- When a coalition of mayors launched a campaign to push for marriage equality a month ago, there were about 70 individuals signed on to it. Now, there are 153 involved in Mayors for Freedom to Marry, with the Republican mayor of one of the nation's largest cities serving as a co-chair.

"This is an equality issue, nothing more, nothing less," San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders (R) told The Huffington Post during a sit-down interview on Wednesday. "History is going judge us 10, 20, 30 years from now. I think it's going to be very different then. We're seeing the landscape change dramatically."

Sanders is one of just four Republicans signed on to Mayors for Freedom to Marry. The others are Mike Gin of Redondo Beach, Calif., Dennis O'Brien of Newton, Pa., and Craig Cates of Key West, Fla. Sanders said that while his party's involvement is small so far, he is confident that there are Republican mayors -- especially in smaller cities -- who will eventually come out for marriage equality.

Sanders' coming out, if you will, took a significant amount of political courage. After he announced his support for marriage equality in 2007, fighting tears at a news conference, the local Republican Party threatened to take away its endorsement of him.

"They were ready to tar and feather me," said Sanders, whose daughter is a lesbian.

In fact, it is this personal connection to the LGBT community that Sanders said he believes will shift the Republican Party to endorse equality.

"The courage of people who have come out has really changed the landscape," Sanders said. "When people are in the closet, nobody ever knew any gays or lesbians, or didn't think they did. Pretty easy to demonize someone like that. When it's your family, when it's your friend, when it's a coworker or someone you know and respect, all of a sudden you realize they're just like we are."

Sanders declined to comment directly on what he thinks of the GOP presidential candidates touting their opposition to same-sex marriage on the campaign trail, but he did say, "I would hope the GOP would become a party that welcomes people from all walks of life and not exclude anybody, and I think that's one of the problems we've had. In the not so recent past, we've excluded large groups of people with the rhetoric that gets going in the campaigns."

He also added that he gets frustrated when politicians tout the so-called "traditional family" as arguments against marriage equality and same-sex adoption.

"I love those arguments," he said sarcastically. "Traditional families bring great upbringing, great values. Traditional families bring mediocre upbringing and values. And traditional families bring child abuse, sex abuse, beating. I mean, it runs the gamut, and I would suspect, it would be the same no matter who the family is. I think that a committed couple can love a child every bit as much as a heterosexual couple."

Republican politics have changed significantly in San Diego since Sanders spoke out in 2007. This year, there are two openly gay candidates running for the Republican mayoral nod in San Diego. Sanders is being forced out by term limits.

And though of a different political party, Sanders said he would really like to see President Barack Obama finally evolve and support marriage equality.

"He's the leader," he said. "I think that that's something the president needs to do."

Watch Sanders' 2007 press conference:

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WASHINGTON -- When a coalition of mayors launched a campaign to push for marriage equality a month ago, there were about 70 individuals signed on to it. Now, there are 153 involved in Mayors for Freed...
WASHINGTON -- When a coalition of mayors launched a campaign to push for marriage equality a month ago, there were about 70 individuals signed on to it. Now, there are 153 involved in Mayors for Freed...
 
 
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Vintage59
Seeking tickets to First Class
04:45 PM on 02/16/2012
It's over. It will take centuries before the whining is reduced to a whimper but it's over. We will lose battles but not the war.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Gay Pagan Man, Living Happily With Husband
12:27 PM on 02/16/2012
A GOP'er gets it! Great news. Now if more GOP'ers would get it, that would be even better!
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SpeakupNation
Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the livi
10:41 AM on 02/16/2012
Finally! A Republican who is on the right side of history! Kudos to him.
09:58 AM on 02/16/2012
Holy crap! It's an ACTUAL republican!!!

Funny how the GOP isn't lead by republicans anymore. This man gives me hope it will be again though one day.
dans5843
Chicago retired gay guy
09:57 AM on 02/16/2012
Very Cool
09:44 AM on 02/16/2012
Mayor Sanders is illustrative of a what is right in the Republican Party. He is principled, conservative and forthright.

At a time when some in his party label themselves as "Ultra Conservative" or "Severely Conservative" or some other oxymoronic phrase, he provides real leadership.
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kenhamlett
09:23 AM on 02/16/2012
I am so grateful to Mayor Sanders for realizing that this issue goes far beyond politics and doing the right thing. It is a shame that national Republican leaders refuse to take that same step. I keep reading on the HuffPost that all Republicans are opposed to equal marriage. But, I am a gay man who has met many, many Republicans who support equality. They just have lousy leaders. With a vacuum of national leadership on this issue -- the President, as you know, may or may not still be 'evolving' -- it is wonderful to see ordinary citizens and state and local officials in many states around the country taking up this battle for equality. Once the help us win the battle, of course, all those national politicians who cannot make up their minds or who actively oppose equality, will try to rewrite history and say they were for it all along. But, we will remember that it was New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders, Washington Governor Christine Gregoire, and others like them that made the victory possible. Congratulations, Mayor Sanders!
09:54 AM on 02/16/2012
Thank you. F & F
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KickstandCat
Christian, therefore Liberal
09:18 AM on 02/16/2012
Jerry, you're MY mayor. This would be the 1st and ONLY good thing you've done===hopefully on your way OUT of office.
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08:28 AM on 02/16/2012
""The courage of people who have come out has really changed the landscape," Sanders said. "When people are in the closet, nobody ever knew any gays or lesbians, or didn't think they did. Pretty easy to demonize someone like that. When it's your family, when it's your friend, when it's a coworker or someone you know and respect, all of a sudden you realize they're just like we are."

I've been saying this for a long time but every time I read it again it just reinforces how important I think this aspect is. As someone else said on this thread, republicans love their kids too and that's why marriage equality is inevitable. Please remember these republicans and their support for our rights.
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KickstandCat
Christian, therefore Liberal
09:22 AM on 02/16/2012
This is NOT normal for ol jer. I've been living under his reign for YEARS. Normally, he's as convoluted as the other repugs.

Consider this a campaign ploy, that MAY have the residual effect of doing something good for some people he normally maligns..
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01:54 PM on 02/16/2012
what may be "normal" for him is largely irrelevant to my points: 1) coming out is probably the single most powerful and effective thing we can do to help advance our causes and 2) don't forget that we could alienate possible allies in the opposition by calling them names... which ironically you illustrate in your third sentence.

While I would hope all his decisions were based on fairness and equality, *any* step he takes in the right direction is a good one in my opinion. I also believe in giving credit where it's due.
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royalchant
Communist pit viper
07:42 AM on 02/16/2012
Awesome.
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ibreathe4u
you call me a heretic like it's a bad thing
05:33 AM on 02/16/2012
It's a very brave thing for someone with an "R" behind his name. Good for him.
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mumi009
"The truth will set you free"
03:53 AM on 02/16/2012
Isn't Ron Reagan, son of Ronald Reagan, gay? Is not a daugher of Dick Cheney a lesbian?

It doesn't matter what political party, economic group, race, national origin or creed one claims for his or her own.

If there is love and caring, then it is good.

Homosexuality is part of the human condition. Let us accept that and move on.

We have a looong list of problems to solve. It is time we spent our energies on these issues.
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92102
Friends Don't Let Friends Watch FOX News
07:50 AM on 02/16/2012
Ron Reagan has been married to the same woman for 32 years, so I would guess not gay. Mary Cheney is however, is a lesbian.
08:05 AM on 02/16/2012
Republican children that are LGBT should prove to the party that the type of family you come from (traditional) doesn't matter. Everyone is going to be their true self in the end.
10:01 AM on 02/16/2012
All it proves to a lot of them is there is an "underlining" condition. That if they truly care for their well-being, they will fight the "gay temptations" and become straight. It is self-delusion at its finest and an incredibly dangerous path to go down...
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RobH413
Game Six: All Things Are Possible
02:31 AM on 02/16/2012
This is why marriage equality is inevitable. Republicans love their children, too. (And some of them are gay.)
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StillAmused
Some mayo on that troll, please...
12:49 AM on 02/16/2012
Good on ya', Mayor Sanders!

History's judgement may come sooner than you anticipated — say, November — and you'll be on the right side of that judgement.

The GOP 'establishment'? Not so much.
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KickstandCat
Christian, therefore Liberal
09:26 AM on 02/16/2012
Sanders IS gop establishment. He'll be on the right side of history on this one, but not for the reasons you think. It's election time, and San Diego has a large, vocal, gay population, and plenty of folks who are tired of sanders.
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xyz99
The net is indeed vast and infinite
12:04 AM on 02/16/2012
Good, I'm glad this is becoming a non-partisan issue. While I personally am not what would be considered a libertarian on many issues, I have always felt sorry for those in the GOP with libertarian principles who are forced to toe the social conservative line as well. Hopefully this signals the beginning of the (very gradual) loosening of social conservatives' hold on the Republican party.
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RobH413
Game Six: All Things Are Possible
02:39 AM on 02/16/2012
No one can be forced to toe the line on social conservatism. Some of them would rather toe the line than lose the financial support of their party and thus risk losing their power. I think most Libertarian leaning Repubs do not really pretend to be social conservatives, but what bothers me is that they are even afraid to disavow or distance themselves from those within their party who are not only advocating for theocracy but who are deliberately making ads that stoke or appeal to racist sentiments in the electorate. I wish there were a greater Libertarian bent to the party, advocating conservative economic principals without the bigotry and intolerance and the insistence on regulating things like marriage and birth control.
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xyz99
The net is indeed vast and infinite
11:17 AM on 02/16/2012
agreed.
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soisay
Angry? Scared? Thank a Republican.
02:42 AM on 02/17/2012
The Goldwater wing of the GOP ended the day Reagan & elder Bush were forced to become ”enlightened” against their lifetime record of voting/being pro-choice or evangelicals would stay home.
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KickstandCat
Christian, therefore Liberal
09:29 AM on 02/16/2012
It would great if there were a 3rd party. That way those folks who are NOT democrats, and wish to run, won't have to lower themselves by alignment with a party they are not in agreement with either.
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xyz99
The net is indeed vast and infinite
11:20 AM on 02/16/2012
The tricky thing with third parties is, whenever one forms, it will just split the vote of one of the major parties and the other main party will emerge as the overall winner. Thus, no one really votes for the third party.