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Payroll Tax Deal Would Allow Drug Testing, Reduce Unemployment Benefits To 73 Weeks [UPDATE]

Posted: 02/15/12 03:08 PM ET  |  Updated: 02/16/12 08:27 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The maximum duration of unemployment insurance would gradually fall from 99 weeks to 73 weeks over the course of the year under the payroll tax deal sought by congressional negotiators, according to an outline of the proposal. And the deal would allow states to drug test those applying for unemployment benefits, according to Democratic and Republican congressional sources.

With no deal at all, the longest time people could claim benefits would abruptly drop to 26 weeks at the end of February when federal unemployment programs are set to expire. One million jobless who have been out of work six months or longer would miss out on benefits in March, according to worker advocacy group the National Employment Law Project.

A GOP aide said the deal would overturn a federal law that prevents states from screening and then drug testing people who apply for unemployment insurance. States would be permitted to screen claimants who lost their jobs because they failed or refused a drug test and people seeking new jobs that generally require drug tests. According to a 2006 survey cited by Republicans, 84 percent of employers required new hires to pass a drug test. Federal law currently does not allow states to deny benefits for reasons other than misconduct, fraud or disqualifying earnings.

"I'm glad that it's in there," Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) told HuffPost in an interview. Kingston was the first Republican in Congress last year to propose drug testing for those collecting unemployment. "I think that it will be a helpful tool for states."

The proposal would also allow 10 states to use unemployment insurance funds to create programs whereby businesses train unemployment recipients without having to pay them. The programs, based on a scheme called "Georgia Works," had been proposed by the White House last year.

If Congress agrees to this new deal, the maximum duration of benefits would remain 99 weeks through May. Compensation currently lasts that long in 22 states, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal-leaning Washington think tank. Nearly 2 million people have been out of work for that amount of time or longer as of January.

The maximum duration of unemployment insurance would ratchet down to 79 weeks after August, and then fall to 73 weeks after December. Republicans wanted benefits chopped down to 59 weeks, while many Democrats said the duration should stay at 99. A Republican aide said only states with jobless rates above 9 percent would be eligible for 73 weeks; jobless people in states with lower rates could receive at most 63 weeks.

Democrats cautioned Wednesday morning that no deal has been finalized.

The agreement to shorten benefits, if it remains as outlined, would not represent a huge change. When Congress reauthorized federal unemployment insurance in December, it did so in a way that set in motion a gradual reduction to 79 weeks over the course of the year. The shortening has already taken effect in Maine and Michigan, which this month lost eligibility for federal Extended Benefits. Projections show the Extended Benefits program, which provides the final 13 or 20 weeks of benefits for long-term jobless individuals, will already "trigger off" in the remaining 32 states where it is in effect.

The reauthorization of unemployment insurance is part of a broader piece of legislation that includes a continuation of a 2 percentage point Social Security payroll tax cut and a provision to prevent a sharp drop in Medicare reimbursement rates.

This story has been updated to include new information about a Republican proposal for drug testing of unemployment claimants, confirmation by Democratic sources about the details of the plan and a comment from Rep. Jack Kingston.

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WASHINGTON -- The maximum duration of unemployment insurance would gradually fall from 99 weeks to 73 weeks over the course of the year under the payroll tax deal sought by congressional negotiators, ...
WASHINGTON -- The maximum duration of unemployment insurance would gradually fall from 99 weeks to 73 weeks over the course of the year under the payroll tax deal sought by congressional negotiators, ...
 
 
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outlandish 04:20 PM on 02/15/2012
A sure recipe for electoral success?
160.000.000 people lose $1000 a year that when spent as it surely is, creates jobs in the retail and manufacturing sector.
In a depression with high unemployment, 50% of the population are told go starve; we only have money for the rich.
9% of the population is told you're lazy and most probably using illegal substances and by the way, we're  Read More...
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01:51 PM on 04/06/2012
If drug testing the unemployed isn't adding insult to injury, I don't know what is. The unemployed can't find jobs during these horrific times so the lawmakers just throw them into the classification of lazy, good-for-nothing, drug abusers. Lawmakers, you should be ASHAMED of yourselves! How on earth do you sleep at night?
07:20 PM on 02/21/2012
This is a crisis.

The real issue is the new weekly jobs number, not weekly unemployment applications.
The recent unemployment application report only suggest less people are losing
their jobs.

Currently, there aren’t enough new jobs to cover college graduates every year.
11:11 AM on 02/18/2012
concerning the article above, concerning EB. What does the term Already Trigger off mean. I understand the trigger off part but was does Already mean in context with time
09:01 AM on 02/18/2012
Thank god I retired safely before all this drug-testing. No way can I get a part-time job or even hired as a medical test subject. All because I treat my glaucoma with an herb. This is just lousy policy that further beats up on those who are already down.
08:34 PM on 02/17/2012
Of all the aspects of social misery nothing is so heartbreaking as unemployment.~ Jane Adams
01:48 PM on 02/17/2012
To be fair, they should also test every elected official, judge, and recipient of defense contracts.
10:04 PM on 02/16/2012
The title is false. Since the extentions expire at the end of the month, they actually increased benefits from 26 weeks to 73 weeks.
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07:49 PM on 02/16/2012
"I'm glad that it's in there," Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) told HuffPost in an interview. Kingston was the first Republican in Congress last year to propose drug testing for those collecting unemployment. "I think that it will be a helpful tool for states."

Helpful tool for states?? Are the feds going to give grants to help the states with this? Shelling out more to add to the fed deficit? If not, how are are the states going to pay for this? Most states have their own deficits to deal with right now. Mr. Kingston has a pipe (no pun intended) dream with no facts or figures on how states would pay for this. It's not a pittance! Do the states have to send out the "marijuana police" to every city in the state now? Florida implemented a program to weed (no pun intended) out drug users and found that only 2 percent of people who applied for UE were "on drugs". A total WASTE of a LOT of state funds. I'm guessing, just guessing that 90 percent of the 2 percent might have tested positive for MJ only and were sensible types that had no intention of being "high" on the job. 84 percent of employers already test their prospective hires. Just one more item on the list of intrusions on our privacy by our govt. Look out people! Open your eyes!
07:28 PM on 02/16/2012
I was curious about Florida finding drug testing was not cost effective. I found this article on something called the "Colorline"

"The Tampa Tribune did some simple (SIMPLE????) math and found out how much the governor’s assumptions about poor people going to cost the state:
Cost of the tests averages about $30. Assuming that 1,000 to 1,500 applicants take the test every month, the state will owe about $28,800-$43,200 monthly in reimbursements to those who test drug-free.
That compares with roughly $32,200-$48,200 the state may save on one month’s worth of rejected applicants.
Net savings to the state: $3,400 to $5,000 annually on one month’s worth of rejected applicants. Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million (WHAT: $178,000,000!!!!!) this fiscal year.

I have read this several times and I find I do not understand a word of it, but I did understand that 1,000 to 1,500 persons a month will be drug tested at a cost of $178,000,000. WTF! So I figured that out as almost $10,000 a drug test for 1,500 persons a month and almost $15,000 a drug test for 1,000 persons a month. I consider myself decent "at ciphering" but these figures have me totally lost. I can now see why the person that wrote this works for a newspaper and not as a CPA.
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Reiner-von-Sinn
Fol de rol de rolly O
04:47 PM on 02/16/2012
They should drug test the GOP.
03:30 PM on 02/17/2012
Absolutely and the drunkin MDOT workers in Michigan and the drunkin mail men etc etc People get a pink slip and have to go get a drug test? What is this all about kick a man in the groin when he's down? Our Gov't is gonna take over every aspect of our lives soon
04:44 PM on 02/16/2012
This is a crisis.

If we don't discuss the important facts then we are doing ourselves a disservice.

The unemployment application report only suggest less people are losing their jobs.

It's not about unemployment applications, it's about new job
production. The unemployment application numbers have to drop since hiring has been frozen for the past 4 years. Companies can't operate with any less employees.

If high school graduates double the number of newly created jobs
every year, then where are we.

This is a recession, or with the facts will soon turn into one.
04:10 PM on 02/16/2012
For republicans who are always yelling about the government being to big and to stay out of peoples lives I find it a joke that they have no problem doing exactly the same thing when it fits their own agenda.
cico31
the shovels are to scoop our peas
05:21 PM on 02/17/2012
the govt already provides unemployment...those that recieve should not be buying drugs with our tax dollars...the government would be acting prudently
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kimbanyc
LIBERAL NY DEMOCRAT
05:24 PM on 02/17/2012
FLORIDA SHOWS THAT LESS THAN 2 PER CENT OF RECIPIENTS USE DRUGS

FAR BELOW THE GENERAL POPULACE

OOOOOOOOOOOPS
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kimbanyc
LIBERAL NY DEMOCRAT
05:36 PM on 02/17/2012
TYHE 2% FIGURE CAME FROM THE GOVERNOR

NOT KEEPING UP ARE YOU?????
04:00 PM on 02/16/2012
Now this is fair, people that work and apply for work take drug test , so why shouldn't people that get benefits? Now the President said he wants fairness all around so lets see if he vetos this.
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Josh RageLyfe
rage life party it up
05:18 PM on 02/16/2012
it's not fair in the first place that companies get to intrude on my body and take a look at my piss. drug tests for employment are essentially unconstitutional.
11:17 AM on 02/18/2012
It's only fair if Congress takes the drug test too! Because they are public employees, taxpayers want to know if they are using drugs too! And if they do, they need to be kicked out for using public money for drugs!
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bcinu2
Slow down and go Faster
03:42 PM on 02/16/2012
If ever there has been an issue to vote in the elections having to do with our rights and freedoms it is the one coming in November. The GOTP is looking to roll our country back to the days of leave it to beaver. Santorum is a religious fanatic. Darrel Issa is doing his best to devise ways for the the GOTP to stifle freedom in all conceivable ways.

The leadership for the GOTP is all but non existent. Boehner, Cantor, and Mitchell, losers that they are continue to pander to any pocket book they can get their hands into. All one has to do is look at the way Cantor attempted to water down the Insider Trading Bill that just saw action in Congress. Someone needs to check all of congress person's financial records and see who it is that has benefited the most from year to year. Than vote out those who enriched themselves while they were supposed to be doing the people's work. It is time to put them all out of office, which of course has become a tired old refrain. Stop DC from trying to re-litigate all the abortion and birth control issues again! Get on with passing a Jobs act already........bc
03:26 PM on 02/16/2012
Who pays for the drug testing ? I would hope the state and not the fed. I'd be interested to see how the workfare is structured. It's a good idea if it actually leads to employment rather than a permanent source of free temp labor.