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Why Do Mormons Baptize The Dead?

Mormon Baptize Dead

First Posted: 02/16/2012 10:13 am Updated: 02/16/2012 10:13 am

By Daniel Burke
Religion News Service

(RNS) The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has apologized for a Mormon who baptized the late parents of famed Nazi-hunter Simon Wiesenthal. But despite calls this week from Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel and others to rethink the controversial rite, the church is unlikely to drop it entirely.

Latter-day Saints trace posthumous baptism to the Apostle Paul, who wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:29, "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead not rise at all? Why are they then baptized for the dead?" Mormons believe that Joseph Smith, their faith's founding prophet, restored the apostolic practice after centuries of neglect by mainstream Christians.

Proxy baptism was also Smith's answer to a classic Christian conundrum: What happens to people who, through no fault of their own, did not join the church during their lifetime? Should they be barred from heaven?

Mormons believe that vicarious baptisms give the deceased, who exist in the afterlife as conscious spirits, a final chance to join the Mormon fold, and thus gain access to the Celestial Kingdom. To Mormons, only members of the LDS priesthood possess the power to baptize.

"It doesn't matter if you're a Baptist or a Buddhist," said Kathleen Flake, a Vanderbilt University scholar who has studied the church, "it's about who has the authority to perform the sacrament."

Flake said Mormons are encouraged to baptize at least four generations of forebears to seal the family together in the afterlife. So the LDS church has built the world's most extensive genealogical library in Salt Lake City with 700 employees and more than 2 billion names.

Baptisms need bodies, so young Mormon men and women dressed in white robes stand in for the departed souls in temple ceremonies worldwide. Mormons youths consider it an honor to be immersed in baptismal founts while the names of the deceased are recited.

LDS leaders emphasize that the spirits of the dead must accept the baptism -- it cannot be involuntarily imposed. And Mormons are instructed to only baptize family members, particularly after Jewish genealogists discovered in the 1990s that 380,000 Holocaust survivors had been vicariously baptized. In response, the church imposed safeguards and spent $500,000 removing Jewish names from its baptismal registries.

But with 13 million Mormons worldwide, the church insists that it cannot control "pranksters or careless persons" who submit Jewish names or famous people such as President Obama's late mother, Stanley Anne Dunham. And the church considers the ritual too essential to forswear.

"With deepest respect to our Jewish friends, the church cannot abandon fundamental aspects of its religious doctrine and practice," the church writes on its website, "and it should not be asked to do so."

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07:56 AM on 04/26/2012
I worshiped God in His temple just the other day. I felt peace in the quiet beauty of that sacred place. I served as a proxy for my great-great grandfather as his children were sealed to him and his wife for all time an eternity. This ordinance, as well as baptism, must be performed on earth by the proper priesthood authority both for the living and the dead. Whether here or on the other side, each individual has his own right to decide what is true. If they accept the gospel of Jesus Christ, the ordinances performed for them in the temple are in force. If they choose not to accept it, then the ordinances are null and void. What will you choose to believe - eternal life with family and friends, or death and ashes with empty nothingness? What are you willing to do for what you believe? I choose to extend these blessings to those I love - my ancestors. I fully expect to meet them some eternal day.
12:44 AM on 02/23/2012
Your ancestors are not just baptized and confirmed as members of the mormon faith. Also necessary for salvation are initiatory and endowment ordinances. All names submitted to the temple are baptised, confirmed, recieve initiatory and endowment, and are then "sealed" to family over an altar. The temples frequently run out of names and "recycle", so temple work is frequently done many times per dead person.

Initiatory involves washing and anointing, partially clothed (the proxy, of course), in preparation for becoming a king and priest, or queen and priestess unto the most high god, hereafter to rule and reign in the house of Israel forever. The proxy then recieves their new name, sacred and holy, never to be repeated outside of the temple. I feel safe revealing mine, as I am an exmormon. My temple name was Ruth, as were all other ladies in the temple that day. When I returned to do the work on behalf of dead people, they recieved names like Naomi, Eliza, Abish, Esther, Lucy, and Martha.

The endowment involves watching a film, (or live action in select temples), which details the mormon view of the creation. A series of special handshakes and passwords are learned to ensure access to heaven. Mormons are strongly cautioned to keep these ceremonies secret, though they prefer the term sacred. Penalties, spiritual and physical, are threatened if confidentiality is breached. As I've left the church, I feel safe! Details of these ceremonies can be found with a simple google search.
09:10 PM on 02/20/2012
You'd be surprised what you can learn about the ancient Christian church from a Mormon.
http://baptismforthedead.blogspot.com/
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11:02 AM on 02/20/2012
It is hard for Mormons to understand why other people care about baptisms for the dead because Mormonism would have to be true in order for the ceremony to have any real impact on the departed spirits. If you believe that baptisms for the dead actually allows your ancestors to convert into Mormons, then you believe Mormon theology.

If you don't believe Mormon theology, then the only thing that is happening is that your ancestor's name is being spoken outloud while someone else is being immersed in water. It doesn't impact you or your ancestor. So why be offended?

Despite this, it's obvious that people are offended and the Mormon church needs to make sure its policies are enforced so that they don't have any more public relations nightmares.
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coolhandfreak
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09:23 PM on 02/19/2012
In the article its says only those of the LDS priesthood can baptize these deceased Jews. Are they sure it is not the LSD priesthood?.
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Julie Baker Morse
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09:17 PM on 02/19/2012
This is not exactly correct. Chuch policy allows its members to trace their roots as far back as they possibly can, to David, in some cases. They are then allowed, in compliance with church policy, to submit all those names for posthumous baptism, as well as any other names from families that branch off from those distant ancestors. This allows members to submit virtually ANY name to the database and still remain in compliance with official church policy. In addition, under what appears to be a "better safe than sorry" -type clause, members are encouraged to submit all those with the same last name that lived in the same town as one of their traced anestors, under the theory that they would have been related.

These policies cannot be taken at face value.
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Zariana
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07:54 PM on 02/19/2012
In Christian Europe, people would steal Jewish children from their parents by claiming that the child had been baptized. Once you perform a (Catholic) baptism, it can't be undone. So the authorities would make sure that the "Christian child" was raised by Christians.

The baptism of people without consent that the Mormons are engaging in really touches a nerve.
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messy
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09:20 PM on 02/19/2012
That it does, however, since these people are dead and unless the magic WORKS, who cares?
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dawacu
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12:32 PM on 02/20/2012
In Mormon theology, the departed spirit would need to consent to the baptism for it to be valid. Outside of Mormon theology, nothing happens to the departed spirit or to the ancestors so there is no harm done.
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KaAp
02:39 PM on 02/20/2012
Except if you feel that baptisms are an anathema because the word is horrifying to and for Jews
03:02 PM on 02/20/2012
Unless of course you don't believe in a spirit, in which case its just horrifying and a slap in the face of your freedom of religion. My spirituality says that being baptized against my will is akin to rape. That's what my "religion" says. What about my wishes?
08:31 PM on 02/18/2012
http://www.thegadflypress.com/p/lds-do-not-baptize-list.html
Check out the open letter to the LDS church asking to not be posthumously baptized. Sign if you would like.
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Galaxie
Religion is all bunk -Thomas A. Edison
05:02 PM on 02/18/2012
It's like kids arguing about how their cartoon character is bigger and stronger than the other...
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KaAp
05:16 PM on 02/18/2012
No, I am not arguing about cartoon characters I am arguing about why my mom died because she went to look for our family history and did not realize that by going on a site that it would have this church baptize our family who died for who and what they were ... it killed her ... I am an atheist but I am still J e wish and I am begging that they stop this nefarious practice ... it really is not about death or god or goddesses it is about respecting the wishes of people
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Galaxie
Religion is all bunk -Thomas A. Edison
05:36 PM on 02/18/2012
The ticket on it, it doesn't mean or do anything.. If you are Jewish and really believe in it, why does someone else words mean anything.. It doesn't... you still believe...

Imagine, if in invented a religion and did the same thing, does it change anything? NO
07:08 PM on 02/18/2012
KaAp, I'd like to understand what exactly happened: she went on the LDS website and that triggered her and her family to be baptized?
Or am I reading it wrong? Did she enter any data or just read what was already there? When was this?
01:27 PM on 02/18/2012
well if you want to find out more weird stuff about religion, sex, men etc go here ">TheAwfulTruthBlog
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KaAp
11:53 AM on 02/18/2012
This is rich. It's basically two groups shouting at each other as to whose Flying Spaghetti Monster a rock believes in. This has got to be up there for the Most Pointless Issue In The History of Mankind.
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Galaxie
Religion is all bunk -Thomas A. Edison
05:02 PM on 02/18/2012
Yep, just what I was going to write!.. You beat me to it....
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KaAp
11:38 AM on 02/18/2012
The good thing is that this is all coming out into the light ... using some of the posts here in addition to articles like this one: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-02-04/news/fl-rpcol-mormons-jews-patron-0204-20120204_1_baptisms-jewish-ritual-bath-american-mormons
that are being written all over the nation and all over the world will anger people enough that there may finally be consequences to actions ...
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whirlpool
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11:07 AM on 02/18/2012
The walnut tree congregation recently unbaptized my Cherokee great-grandfather. Some lady from the small town in Arkansas where he lived went to Salt Lake and baptized just about every dead person in town. I hope he made a heck of a scene on Kolob.
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KaAp
11:32 AM on 02/18/2012
I am really disgusted with them they are like automatons ... how can you even talk to them?
I do hope there was a scene on Kolob ... where is that? As Bill Maher said last night near the planet Ork?
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whirlpool
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01:11 PM on 02/18/2012
You can google it. It is a planet in Mormon mythology. I am not making this up.
10:08 AM on 02/18/2012
Yeah, no, there's nothing demeaning or cult-like in baptizing dead people who belong obviously belong to other religions...

Sick people.
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dawacu
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12:36 PM on 02/20/2012
They don't actually baptize the dead people, they baptize someone else while saying the dead person's name. Under Mormon theology, the dead person doesn't become Mormon unless they choose to. Outside of Mormon theology, nothing happens because the baptism is meaningless.