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'Parks and Recreation' Politics: Ron Swanson's Take On Government

The Huffington Post   Posted: 02/17/2012 12:23 pm

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Ron Swanson has never made a secret of what he thinks of the government: There's too much of it. Way too much.

As you can see in the exclusive clip above, which compiles many of Ron's politically-oriented observations, the "Parks and Recreation" character thinks the whole shebang should be abolished (including his job with the Pawnee parks department).

A lot of people are talking about how big or small government should be these days -- not just political candidates who are running for office, but characters on the NBC comedy, which has an ongoing storyline about Leslie Knope's bid to be elected to the Pawnee City Council.

Leslie clearly believes that governmental agencies can be a force for good in the community, a view she articulates in her optimistic but not always polished campaign -- and that's an outlook that doesn't exactly mesh with that of her boss. Ron's go-it-alone, Libertarian philosophy and Leslie's deeply held belief in the potential positive impact of government put the characters far apart on the political spectrum, yet they are close friends, and Leslie views Ron as an important sounding board and ally.

How has the show avoided partisan rancor while portraying their friendship and realistically (not to mention humorously) depicting the trade-offs and compromises that politicians and bureaucrats must make? I asked the show's co-creator and executive producer, Michael Schur, about those things in a recent interview.

"We have never said the words Democrat or Republican on the show, and we never will," Schur said. "We are aided by the fact that many city council elections don’t have party affiliations, so that’s one thing that’s good. We don’t try to avoid issues at all. In fact, I think we try to use them. But we use them in a way that’s hopefully equal-handed and satirical instead of preachy or soap-boxy."

Indeed, part of the reason Ron is so loved by fans of the show -- fans of all political persuasions, presumably -- is that his beliefs are integrated perfectly with other aspects of his he-man personality. As an accomplished woodworker and avid outdoorsman, Ron knows he could thrive in a government-free world because he already lives off the grid to the extent that he can. And Leslie's optimism is part and parcel of who she is as well: She always believes in her friends and herself, and that never-say-die hopefulness gives the core of the show an optimistic vibe.

The characters, who are complex and always evolving, exude both confidence and kindness, and for the past four seasons, "Parks and Recreation" has shown that Ron and Leslie don't just respect each other, they've influenced each other for the better.

"We're trying to say a person whose main personal belief is in the positive power of government can be very, very close friends and take a lot of advice from a person who believes the government should be one guy in a room with a button where he decides who to nuke," Schur noted. "Those people get along really well, and they give each other really good advice and they look out for each other. They care about each other. They’re respectful of each other’s opinions, and I don’t see why that is impossible."

For my recent piece on what's to come in Season 4 of "Parks and Recreation," look here. Also, Ryan McGee and I talked about "Parks and Recreation" (as well as "Life's Too Short," "The Walking Dead" and "Cougar Town") in this week's Talking TV podcast, which you can find here and and on iTunes. The podcast's RSS feed is here.

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Ron Swanson has never made a secret of what he thinks of the government: There's too much of it. Way too much. As you can see in the exclusive clip above, which compiles many of Ron's politically-o...
Ron Swanson has never made a secret of what he thinks of the government: There's too much of it. Way too much. As you can see in the exclusive clip above, which compiles many of Ron's politically-o...
 
 
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cwilliamson32
History teacher turned Peace Corps volunteer.
06:08 PM on 02/20/2012
So, apparently a TV character, which satires libertarianism to the extreme to where he actually works for the government, has brought out the crazies today. This is just like when I would talk to my Republican friends about Stephen Colbert and they don't believe him to be satirical. Clearly no sense of humor. And by sense of humor, I mean when there is humor around, people have no sense that it is actually happening around them.
01:41 PM on 02/21/2012
Archie Bunker? Liberals never understand the mushy middle....Norman Lear sure didn't get it.
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coyotefever105
Thank you, President Reagan!
04:12 PM on 02/20/2012
It's NEVER impossible to have friends who think differently (in my case, liberal ones). Some of the best friends I have are liberals.
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Logicalthinker10
Meet the new boss, the same as the old one.
09:21 AM on 02/20/2012
Drinking age of 21 is really stupid when 18 is the drinking age in practically every country.
Pennsylvanianne
There is no sin but ignorance.
08:38 PM on 02/21/2012
We're more immature in the U.S., where people drink themselves steadily into a stupor, instead of drinking responsibly by sipping and savoring with a meal, as they do in Europe.
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Logicalthinker10
Meet the new boss, the same as the old one.
11:16 AM on 02/22/2012
True.
09:54 PM on 02/18/2012
Ever notice how much Tim Thomas (Boston Goalie) looks and acts just like Ron Swanson? Just sayin...
03:30 PM on 02/18/2012
I'm tired of repubs/libertarians same thing, do we have to hear about it in the NBC line up of shows too!
09:03 PM on 02/18/2012
Please tell me you get the fact that Ron Swanson is a pure satirical character, and i'm just taking your comment the wrong way.
12:10 AM on 02/19/2012
Ron Swanson is not in any way satirical. He may be a caricature, he is in no way satirizing libertarians
12:11 AM on 02/19/2012
Democrats are more similar to republicans than either are to libertarians by a long shot
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mspat44417
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11:23 AM on 02/18/2012
There is to much government ..most of it is useless anyway.. Just look at congress..I read a article about Arizona wanting to have a volunteer base of people to patrol the boarder ...But it will cost 1.4 billion for a "volunteer" organization...So where is all that money going...That's right the government..
06:35 AM on 02/19/2012
Ok... we have a philosophical difference on what constitutes "a volunteer" organization.
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mspat44417
Rock it if ya got it...Music
11:05 AM on 02/19/2012
Has nothing to do with "philosophy" has to do with what it means as from a dictionary which is something that is done freely and with out expecting any form of payment...But yes you do sound like a government type...with using words that have nothing to do with what it really is...
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Van Hammersly
09:36 AM on 02/18/2012
Ok, we have a philisophical difference on what constitutes "a law". Hilarious.
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MexiChick67
Que? Que? Queee?
03:22 AM on 02/18/2012
What is scary is that there are people like Ron Swanson. They go on and on about wanting government out of their lives or to do away with it all together. But, ask them if they want to get rid of paved roadways, free school for their kids, libraries, social security, etc. and they are the first to say 'No. That's why I pay taxes'.
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lthrnck68
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09:17 AM on 02/18/2012
As I have not watched the show, I can't really say how one character goes on and on about a subject. However, I have to agree with the headline about there being too much government. Prime example is the worker that decided that 4 year old's lunch wasn't meeting government's nuitrition guidelines and made her eat chicken nuggets instead. A nation this size does need an overall authority, but now the authority is just getting too intrusive. The thing is, where is the dividing line between just enough government and too much? We no longer have a government of the majority. It is run by too many small, special interest groups. Try to please everyone and you end up pleasing no one.
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db025
11:04 AM on 02/18/2012
lthrnck, I agree 100%. Fed gov should be so small as to be nearly unnoticeable. Stat gov should be SLIGHTLY larger, and local should be nearly invisible. All three of these should leave charity up to the individual. Taking $100 from me and passing it thru the gov sieve down to the guy on the street who needs it leaves him only about $20 - 2010 report: 80% of every dollar confiscated for welfare goes to run welfare agencies.

Dept of Education has ruined our education system.
Dept of Energy has ruined our energy system (originally established to oversee the price of gas. Gas was $1.35 then, today it's $4.79)
Health and Human Services has wasted bazillions of $$ on school lunches, most of the food ends up in the garbage, but they'll find one 4 yo GIRL and bully her.
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heboprotagonist
Excuse me, your caps lock is on. Please fix.
04:04 PM on 02/18/2012
You've got the Turkey Sandwich vs. Chicken Nuggets story wrong.

It had nothing to do with the federal government, but rather the state's (South Carolina, I think). The employee has also admitted that she acted outside of her authority.

Before you start a witch hunt, you should question whether they exist first.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
11:50 PM on 02/17/2012
Is he trying to look like Robert Goulet ?
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mspat44417
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11:24 AM on 02/18/2012
That's funny..he does kind look like him..lol
Pennsylvanianne
There is no sin but ignorance.
08:39 PM on 02/21/2012
Robert Goulet did not have that kind of glower. Ron Swanson has the most intense glower ever.
08:50 PM on 02/17/2012
Paul/Swanson 2012
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metusmetu
Sine Metu
06:56 PM on 02/17/2012
I A G R E E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BlackJAC
It's better to be a black king than a white knight
06:26 PM on 02/17/2012
I fail to understand why Ron continues to work for town park & rec if he hates Da Gubmint.  You don't see peaceniks working for defense contractors, so why doesn't he just quit and go find a job in his beloved private sector?
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MexiChick67
Que? Que? Queee?
03:20 AM on 02/18/2012
That my friend is irony. Pure irony. It's like those who call say that Obama will turn this country into a socialist nation, while collecting social security. That is irony.
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heboprotagonist
Excuse me, your caps lock is on. Please fix.
04:05 PM on 02/18/2012
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
05:58 PM on 02/17/2012
Simple concepts such as " those who exchange freedoms for security end up with neither" are good to keep in mind.
04:47 PM on 02/17/2012
There's an identifiable, but somewhat quiet, pro-civic ideology in Parks and Recreation that, as Schur says, transcends partisanship. It also makes Parks and Recreation one of the most important shows on TV. I explored this theme a year ago at The Brown Tweed Society:

http://thebrowntweedsociety.com/2011/02/19/the-quiet-ideology-of-parks-and-recreation/
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Beth Hill
04:45 PM on 02/17/2012
too funny!