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Ron Paul 2012 Strategy Could Earn Him Major Role At RNC

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By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER   02/20/12 08:33 AM ET  AP

WASHINGTON -- Ron Paul may not win the Republican nomination for president – he has yet to win a single state – but his strategy of trying to amass delegates in caucus states could land him a prominent role at the party's national convention this summer.

Imagine this: A primetime speech at the GOP convention in which Paul criticizes American military action overseas and condemns the war on terror as an overreach of government authority at home. It's enough to make some Republicans cringe.

But they may have little choice if they want to placate Paul's supporters and keep them from becoming a distraction at an event designed to promote party unity and showcase the nominee, whoever it is.

"Paul is fascinating because good ol' Ron will say just about anything he wants to say at any particular time," said Dennis Goldford, a professor of politics at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. "And the last thing you want somebody doing is going off message in primetime at a convention."

With the exception of Maine, the Texas congressman hasn't come close to winning the popular vote in any of the first nine states to vote. However, campaign aides say their knowledge of caucus rules combined with the enthusiasm of Paul's supporters gives them a unique ability to take advantage of a process that could take several months to sort out.

Paul's campaign manager, John Tate, said he is unsure how many delegates Paul has amassed in caucus states. But, he boldly predicted: "We are confident that when all is said and done and some of these caucus states finish their process that we will end up with either a good plurality or a majority of the delegates out of Maine, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, possibly Colorado."

Paul echoed Tate's prediction for Iowa and Maine in a broadcast interview Sunday. "The bottom line is, who is going to get the delegates and we think we're doing pretty good," Paul said on CNN.

Five caucus states have voted so far. In The Associated Press delegate count, Paul isn't projected to win any national delegates in Iowa, Colorado or Minnesota. He got five out of 28 in Nevada and 10 out of 21 in Maine.

Romney leads the overall race for delegates with 123, followed by Santorum at 72, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 32. Paul is in fourth place, according to the AP count, with 19 delegates. It takes 1,144 delegates to win the Republican nomination for president.

Most primaries and some caucuses are binding, meaning delegates won by the candidates are pledged to support that candidate at the national convention this summer. Political parties in many caucus states, however, use a multistep process to award national delegates.

In those states, The AP uses results from local caucuses to project the number of national delegates candidates would win if they are able to maintain the same level of support throughout the process. Those projections, however, can change because local caucuses are just the first step.

In Iowa, for example, more than 120,000 caucus goers attended local caucuses on Jan. 3. At those caucuses, they voted in a straw poll for president in which Rick Santorum eked out a 34-vote win over Mitt Romney. Paul finished third, about 3,000 votes behind.

The national media focused almost entirely on the straw poll results, but the real work was just beginning. After the straw poll was over, caucus-goers elected delegates to county conventions scheduled for March. Those conventions will elect delegates to congressional district conventions in April and the state GOP convention in June.

Delegates to the GOP national convention in Tampa, Fla., will be selected at the congressional district and state conventions, and the outcome may look very different from the results of the Jan 3 vote.

In most years, it doesn't matter because the party nominee is obvious by then, so the presumptive nominee gets all the delegates, regardless of who won in January.

Paul's supporters, however, plan to promote their delegates at every level of the process, regardless of what happens in the national campaign, Tate said.

"The ultimate goal is obviously still to win, to get enough delegates there to win the nomination," Tate said in an interview. "I think there's lot of secondary goals, to make sure that our and Dr. Paul's views are represented at the convention, represented in the platform."

"We want to make sure that the Republican Party understands that we are a major part of the Republican Party," Tate added. "We're not to be overlooked; we're not to be taken for granted."

It is not unusual for some losing candidates to have a role at the party's national convention. Hillary Rodham Clinton got a prominent speaking spot at the Democratic convention in 2008. But Clinton had waged an epic primary battle with then-candidate Barack Obama, and her speech was designed to help unify the party.

Many of Paul's libertarian views dovetail nicely with mainstream Republican ideas on limited government and low taxes. But Paul breaks with much of his party when he talks about American intervention abroad and government efforts to fight terrorism at home.

"Following the Constitution, don't police the world, don't participate in all this nation-building, cut spending, cut taxes, cut deficits – these are traditional Republican principles," said David Fischer, vice chairman of Paul's campaign in Iowa. "I consider the view of these Republicans who want to simply grow the size and scope of the government, that's outside of Republican mainstream."

There is precedent for Paul winning delegates in caucus states where he lost the initial vote. In 2008, during Paul's first campaign for president, he finished a distant second in the Nevada caucuses, which Romney won with more than half the vote. At the GOP state convention three months later, Paul had so many supporters that he was poised to win some of Nevada's national delegates when party leaders abruptly shut down the convention.

Later, the party's executive committee tried to appoint its own delegation to the national convention and Paul's supporters sued. The lawsuit failed but the two sides eventually reached a compromise that gave Paul some delegates to the national convention in St. Paul, Minn.

Paul, however, didn't attend the 2008 convention. Instead, he held a rival rally in nearby Minneapolis.

This year, it might be better to accommodate Paul and his supporters rather than try to shut them out, said Rich Galen, a GOP strategist and former Gingrich aide who is neutral in the 2012 race.

Galen thinks Paul is guaranteed a speaking spot at the convention, and maybe a few concessions in the party platform, as long as they don't deviate too much from mainstream Republican positions.

And what if Paul gets up at the convention and talks about slashing the military or repealing the Patriot Act?

"That's just Ron Paul being Ron Paul," Galen said. "It would make the next morning's papers, but who cares?"

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09:15 AM on 02/22/2012
Why was there no coverage on the MSM or here about the historical march on the White House on February 20. Over 400 to 500 Veterans marched in support of Ron Paul and there is not even on word of it on the news! What is up with that?
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08:34 AM on 02/25/2012
The continued orchestrated denial of the Ron Paul Movement by both the media and the GOP.
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IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:00 AM on 02/21/2012
Voting Ron Paul = ground breaking diplomacy, like Nixon visiting China to trade instead of war (regardless of nukes).

Voting Mitt Obama = moraI responsibility for a preemptive war "red line" policy, which poses an extreme risk of war with Iran.

Even though Iran has repeatedly asked for diplomacy after recent sanctions, the US Empire refuses to engage in diplomacy.

Instead, our government spins a Good Cop (US) / Bad Cop (lsreaI) routine on the road to war.

Iran won't stop trying to get nukes so long as they remain an imperial target -- our rulers had already overthrew their democracy in the past for oil.

"Preemptive war" can't stop Iran's nuclear development. War may only instigate regime-change, after which "diplomacy" will start with Iran. However, war will very likely fail in producing regime-change.
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IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
08:50 AM on 02/21/2012
ditto
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Don't believe everything NASA says.
08:39 AM on 02/21/2012
I'm a liberal Democrat and I'm voting for RP.
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had410
another veteran voting for Ron Paul
09:11 AM on 02/21/2012
I'm an American voting for Ron Paul, I'm voting to restore America to it's founding principles. Everything else is meaningless without personal and economic liberty!
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10:09 AM on 02/21/2012
Founding Principles? In what era are we discussing? the 1800's?
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10:08 AM on 02/21/2012
Your comment to me seems to have been deleted, so I thought I would answer your general questions by referring you to this article which espouses my feelings on the GOP candidates quite succinctly.

* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/russ-feingold-book-gop-2012_n_1289428.html
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bccmeteorites
Don't believe everything NASA says.
11:02 AM on 02/21/2012
WASHINGTON -- America has largely turned its focus away from foreign policy and civil liberties since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, according to a new book by former Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold.

While I agree with most of the article the first sentence above, is the biggest load of crap since well actual crap. The CIA is more deeply immersed in setting the stage for foreign policy now than ever before, including the DEA, the ATF and the DoJ. These are our foreign policy apparatus and machinations. All to prop up corporations and a handful of rich people and the Jewish State.
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05:55 AM on 02/21/2012
Ron Paul, while having "some" agreement on specific issues, by far is one dangerous & crazy ole man. His tances on the government, women, civil rights and how they impact our daily living suggest that this man is unfit for office....any office.
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07:58 AM on 02/21/2012
ending foreign wars, ending murdering civilians, restoring personal liberties, sound money, and saving the dollar. yeah just crazy.

your complaints only show you haven't done your own research and that you listen to and believe the media smear mongers.
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09:54 AM on 02/21/2012
As I stated, there are a few issues on which I agree with Paul, but those few issues are hardly enough to make me forget the far more dangers in which he would take our government.

It's always easy to belittle your opponent by saying they (I) haven't done my research but you would be terrible wrong once again as I have studied and researched Paul for quite some time now. I would suggest you look beyond the few issues that you like and look deeper into what he wants to see for our civil rights, our women's rights along with health and contraception & abortion rights, our education system and governmental departments in general.

I won't go into his newsletters, but the years also part and parcel of who this man was and is and these all are hardly the kinds of attitudes and takes on our country that would take us into where I believe we all want to be: viable, making money with a more fair tax system.

So before you denigrate others, perhaps you should come with something other than snide quips and slurs.
06:59 PM on 02/23/2012
Gubbernment should not play an intervention role in most areas other than to protect our liberties and freedoms, and defending our country. We'd have a few economists make fun of us for having an over-and-badly-regulated market. Industries with regulation departments have already been captured... "Regulatory capture", look it up. This is how big business wins by using the Gubbernment to play 'block the competition'. They get to set their own prices by having no interference from the regulators OR the minimal competition which gets attacked by the puppet regulators.

The civil rights act is unconstitutional, it empowers minorities when Paul believes no group has more "power/rights" over the other. The leader of the NAACP can attest to this.

Sexism/Racism rampant? Go somewhere else for your business, make a prime target of this person or business that champions such idiotic and ancient ideologies. Make it known that they do this, ridicule them instead of crying to "daddy frederal gubbernment" to make everything alright.

Everything not empowered in the constitution to the Federal Govl, is more or less given to the states to make that decision. Abortions, contraceptives, health care, education... all of it is states' or local rights(more local than state for education, but that's just my opinion).
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06:28 AM on 02/24/2012
Those with the kind of attitude you espouse frighten the bejesus out of me.
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05:34 AM on 02/21/2012
Paul is like a drug dealer, keep promising them drugs and they keep coming back.
07:18 AM on 02/21/2012
How so?
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Derpwood
The voices tell me that it's all your fault . .
04:37 AM on 02/21/2012
I keep confusing him with L. Ron Hubbard . .

I mean they both are cult leaders, have insane followers, and espouse garbage . .
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05:14 AM on 02/21/2012
this coming from someone who has 'the voices tell me that it's all your fault'
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Derpwood
The voices tell me that it's all your fault . .
05:21 AM on 02/21/2012
Thanks for confirming that I know what I'm talking about!
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
04:22 AM on 02/21/2012
Ron Paul is the closest thing the GOP has to keeping themselves honest.

Unfortunately the rest of the GOP looks at him like the uncle who came to the dinner uninvited and everyone want's him to leave - despite the fact that he's really is the life of the party no one else wants to be there either.
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Derpwood
The voices tell me that it's all your fault . .
04:47 AM on 02/21/2012
"Ron Paul is the closest thing the GOP has to keeping themselves honest." . .

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean seriously . .

You're 100% correct . .

That's what makes it SO funny!!
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Wisdom is the principal thing
04:58 AM on 02/21/2012
Yes. Sad, isn't it?
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08:00 AM on 02/21/2012
have your tried medication for those voices?
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Think critically...not blindly conform
05:52 AM on 02/21/2012
"Ron Paul is the closest thing the GOP has to keeping themselves honest."

I think you are confusing Paul with Roehmer. Probably the most honest of all the GOP candidates was Buddy Roehmer.
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08:37 AM on 02/21/2012
HA.
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Wisdom is the principal thing
03:33 PM on 02/21/2012
Maybe, but I said Paul because no matter how much the GOP gang tries to marginalize him each of the cantidates eventually ends up supporting some element of some philosophy that Paul has.
03:38 AM on 02/21/2012
Our two party system limits diversity and makes everything seem black or white. The powerful elite prefer only two parties because it makes control of the country easier than if there were three or more parties.

Ron Paul should really be with a third party, which would give people more choice. A third party would also minimize rifts within each of the two current parties. Our current scheme, were a candidate has to be an Independent in order to run, makes for transient third party ideals. This helps the people supporting the two party system remain in power. More than two parties could give one of the current parties an advantage over the other, but this would more accurately reflect the diverseness of the American people.
01:54 AM on 02/21/2012
Ron Paul says the traditional media are all out to get him and he wonders why they don't like him

Ron Paul says the Republicans are all out to get him and he wonders why they don't like him.

I understand that he doesn't get enough media coverage, I think I've read several thousand articles complaining about his lack of media coverage. If his lack of media coverage gets any more coverage then I think it could turn into a major story:

"Ron Paul is not getting enough press. Story at 11"
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05:58 AM on 02/21/2012
When the press tries to "honestly" cover Ron Paul and his history, he acts like a big ole baby and cries foul...then bullies whomever is conducting the interview and cries BIASED PRESS.

If there is a lack of press coverage, it is his own fault for acting like an infant when they want him to address something he doesn't like. INFANTILE. behavior at best.
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06:41 PM on 02/21/2012
The press (for the most part) and honestly in the same sentence is a joke. paul doesn't suffer fools.
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planetjeffy
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
01:16 AM on 02/21/2012
RPaul is nothing but another big money scam artist.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/20/news/economy/peter_thiel_ron_paul/index.htm
02:05 AM on 02/21/2012
You do not like anything you haven't been told, look into him and realize people are supporting him for his solid record and care for individuals. If you hate the everyone then go elsewhere. If you actually care for your fellow person then please look a little deeper than what people tell you to see rather than what actually is.
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06:19 AM on 02/21/2012
That's the zerO
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12:44 AM on 02/21/2012
I support him because he is the only one on the Hill who consistently votes in line with our Constitution. While many may not like him, you cannot take that away from him. He abides by the oath of office.

This campaign is not about Ron Paul, the man. It's about a movement similar to the TP and OWS movements. Ron Paul can and will be replaced as its leader.

What's going on here is that the movement wants to be on the 2012 platform in some way. It's part of a long term plan to change the GOP in preparation for 2016. It's much like a party within the GOP along with various TP factions who have, thus far, remained silent.

For now, I think they might be satisfied for some of his agenda to be part of the platform.

There is also a lot of talk about a deal being made. .. everything from Ron being VP, getting a Cabinet post or even his son, Rand being VP. It's speculation but, for sure, the GOP knows they have no chance without the support of his followers.

This article fails to mention that Rick and Newt will not even be on the ballot in some states so only Paul and Mitt will share in those delegates. Has anyone noticed the "alliance" that seems to be growing there? They are miles apart on most issues but something is sure going on there.
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12:21 AM on 02/21/2012
The "major role" at the RNC is that he might be allowed to give a speech??? Big effin deal!

I'll lay odds that he won't even show up.
02:07 AM on 02/21/2012
the major role is his delegates(or delegates in general ) play a major role in deciding the rules for the following election. So he can sway the 2016 election in favor of a candidate like him, that is not supported by big money. Furthermore with that many delegates, in past elections concessions have been made to accompany the the runner ups in regard to policy matters. But a speech at the RNC where paul talks about non-interventionalism, auditing the fed, and reform of discriminatory law, and monetary issues would be huge for perhaps a gary johnspn in 2016 in moving the party in that direction
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10:59 PM on 02/20/2012
Ron Paul and the Sanctity of Life Act tell me that Paul has no desire for abortion to even be a state's rights issue. He says the 4th Amendment privacy I have should allow me to inject heroin (if my state says its okay) but doesn't cover the right to privacy pro choice people support. Can anyone explain that to me?
11:54 PM on 02/20/2012
He has said over and over that he does not support abortion, but would absolutely leave it up to the states to decide and feels he should not force his views on the people. He has gone as far to say a ban would be unconstitutional, thats a big no-no for him, a strict constitutionalist. Regarding drugs he wants to move them from schedule one to schedule two so they can be medically prescribed and be allowed to be legalized at the state level. Your first sentence is 100% false and your second is misleading at best. Please quit tr0llin unless you want to have a constructive fact filled discussion
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Dokkydok
That's why, darling, it's incredible
12:58 AM on 02/21/2012
The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act doesn't count?
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12:46 AM on 02/21/2012
Scoutitout
We all have our own beliefs on subjects and Ron Paul should be allowed to also. As he has delievered over 4000 babies of course this would be a strong issue for his personal belief. Yet I have to laugh when I read such questions because in the 1970's the Supreme Court already made the verdit of pro choice regarding abortions. There have been other presidents would would have loved to change that but haven't been able to because it already has been ruled on. I myself am Prochoice however if it come the day I was faced with the choice I would keep the baby. This does not mean I judge others for their choice whatever that is. And if things went back to State running things they also could not over turn Roe v Wade. Look it up and see for yourself. Your fear is unfounded.
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01:04 AM on 02/21/2012
I have looked it up - that is why I'm asking for people to clarify Paul's stance. He sponsored not only the Sanctity of Life Act but also the We The People Act which ban the federal adjudication of their respective issues. At the same time, oddly, he sponsored the Family Freedom Education Act which allows federal tax credits to families towards private and home schooling educational costs.
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10:53 PM on 02/20/2012
RON PAUL2012. :)
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American Dreams are not an urban legend
12:47 AM on 02/21/2012
keinangst
Right on F&F !!!
12:59 AM on 02/21/2012
No, thanks..