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Bloomberg And Yale President Richard Levin Face Off On Police Surveilling Muslim Students

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By DAVID B. CARUSO and JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN   02/21/12 09:44 PM ET  AP

NEW YORK -- The mayor faced off with the president of Yale University on Tuesday over an effort by the city's police department to monitor Muslim student groups for any signs that their members harbored terrorist sympathies.

The Associated Press revealed over the weekend that in recent years the New York Police Department has kept close watch on Muslim student associations across the Northeast. The effort included daily tracking of student websites and blogs, monitoring who was speaking to the groups and sending an undercover officer on a whitewater rafting trip with students from the City College of New York.

Yale President Richard Levin was among a number of academics who condemned the effort in a statement Monday, while Rutgers University and leaders of student Muslim groups elsewhere called for investigations into the monitoring.

"I am writing to state, in the strongest possible terms, that police surveillance based on religion, nationality, or peacefully expressed political opinions is antithetical to the values of Yale, the academic community, and the United States," Levin wrote.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, speaking to reporters on Tuesday, dismissed those criticisms as baseless.

"I don't know why keeping the country safe is antithetical to the values of Yale," he said.

He said it was "ridiculous" to argue that there was anything wrong with officers keeping an eye on websites that are available to the general public.

"Of course we're going to look at anything that's publicly available in the public domain," he said. "We have an obligation to do so, and it is to protect the very things that let Yale survive."

Asked by a reporter if he thought it was a "step too far" to send undercover investigators to accompany students on rafting vacations, Bloomberg said: "No. We have to keep this country safe."

"It's very cute to go and blame everybody and say we should stay away from anything that smacks of intelligence gathering," he said. "The job of our law enforcement is to make sure that they prevent things. And you only do that by being proactive."

Bloomberg, an independent, added that he believed that police officers had respected people's privacy and obeyed the law.

The campus monitoring program was part of a broad effort by the NYPD, initiated after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, to try to spot any burgeoning terror cells in the U.S. before they had a chance to act. The NYPD monitoring of college campuses included schools far beyond the city limits.

Police talked with local authorities about professors 300 miles away in upstate Buffalo. The undercover agent who attended the City College rafting trip recorded students' names and noted in police intelligence files how many times they prayed. Detectives trawled Muslim student websites every day and, although professors and students had not been accused of any wrongdoing, their names were recorded in reports prepared for police Commissioner Raymond Kelly.

Officers kept tabs on student groups at Yale; Columbia; The University of Pennsylvania; Syracuse; Rutgers; New York University; Clarkson University; the State University of New York campuses in Buffalo, Albany, Stony Brook and Potsdam; Queens College, Baruch College, Brooklyn College and La Guardia Community College.

Levin said Yale's police department did not participate in any monitoring by the NYPD and was unaware of it.

An NYPD spokesman, Paul Browne, explained the effort as an attempt to learn more about student organizations that could be ripe for infiltration by terror recruiters. He cited 12 people arrested or convicted on terrorism charges in the United States and abroad who had once been members of Muslim student associations, or MSAs.

He acknowledged that police monitored student websites and collected publicly available information but said law-abiding students have nothing to fear.

"Students who advertised events or sent emails about regular events should not be worried about a terrorism file being kept on them," he said. "NYPD only investigated persons who we had reasonable suspicion to believe might be involved in unlawful activities."

A Muslim student leader at Yale, Faisal Hamid, challenged the NYPD's justification.

"An MSA is simply a group of Muslim students; just because a terrorist happened to be member of an MSA does not mean that MSAs, which nationally represents hundreds of thousands of Muslim students, have any connection to criminal activity," Hamid said. "Law enforcement should pursue actual leads, not imaginary ones based on Islamophobia."

Syracuse University does "not approve of, or support, any surveillance or investigation of student groups based solely on ethnicity, religion or political viewpoint," said Kevin Quinn, senior vice president for public affairs at Syracuse.

Columbia University "would obviously be concerned about anything that could chill our essential values of academic freedom or intrude on student privacy," spokesman Robert Hornsby said.

The University of Buffalo said in a statement that it "does not conduct this kind of surveillance, and, if asked, UB would not voluntarily cooperate with such a request. As a public university, UB strongly supports the values of freedom of speech and assembly, freedom of religion, and a reasonable expectation of privacy."

The University of Pennsylvania contacted the NYPD and received assurances that none of its students is being monitored, a spokesman said.

The Connecticut chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations called for officials to investigate to determine the extent of the monitoring and how to prevent it from happening again.

"They're just going out and casting a wide net around a whole community, so they're criminalizing in a way a whole community based on their religion," said Mongi Dhaouadi, director of CAIR in Connecticut.

Rutgers University, based in New Jersey, called for the NYPD to investigate its own activities. The Muslim Student Association at Rutgers called the monitoring a violation of civil rights.

"The Rutgers populace should openly condemn the clear violations of the NYPD, who conducted illegitimate profiling outside of their jurisdiction and breached the constitutional rights of an individual," the Rutgers student group said in a statement.

The Association of Muslim American Lawyers called for the New York attorney general to investigate.

The Muslim Students Association of the United States and Canada expressed concerns as well. Its president, Zahir Latheef, said the NYPD "clearly overstepped its boundaries when it began spying on average American Muslim college students who were simply taking whitewater rafting trips or innocently participating in school activities at their college or university campus."

The Muslim Students Association of the University at Buffalo said it felt discriminated against "by this secret investigation conducted by a police agency 400 miles away."

The student monitoring was part of a much larger intelligence operation that has put entire Muslim neighborhoods under scrutiny. The NYPD built databases showing where Muslims lived, worked, shopped and prayed. Plainclothes officers known as rakers eavesdropped in cafes, and informants known as mosque crawlers reported on weekly sermons.

Defenders of those efforts say police investigators need to understand the community to spot potential plots.

Bloomberg has repeatedly cited the need for vigilance, although he has insisted that the NYPD only follows leads and denied that it engages in wholesale spying.

Asked whether he was aware of an NYPD agent being sent on a college rafting trip, Bloomberg said, "I have no idea. The only whitewater rafting I've done I did with my daughter. I don't think she had a lot of information that I was interested in. In terms of her political views."

Since the AP began reporting on these programs in August, civil liberties groups and nearly three dozen members of Congress have called for the Justice Department to investigate.

But calls for an inquiry have yielded little. The NYPD's intelligence unit operates in secret. Even the City Council, which funds the department, isn't told about police intelligence operations. And though the NYPD receives hundreds of millions of dollars in federal money, the administration of President Barack Obama has repeatedly sidestepped questions about whether it endorses the NYPD's tactics.

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Christoffersen reported from New Haven, Conn. Associated Press writers Matt Apuzzo in Washington, Samantha Henry in Newark, N.J., and Rik Stevens in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.

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01:52 PM on 02/24/2012
The second most important question that law enforcement needs to answer today is "Who is 'dangerous' enough to merit the valuable manpower and dwindling resources available in our post 9/11 Top Secret America?" The most important question is "How do you secure the needed checks and balances when human passions are involved in the decision making?" which is absolutely the biggest elephant in the pre-emptive law and order room.

I along with all U.S. citizens, are waiting for the answers.
12:36 PM on 02/24/2012
Sad. If you were a believer that American superiority's end will come from within, then I congratulate your accurate prediction. It's truly coming to an end, talk about "You're your own worst enemy".
08:55 AM on 02/24/2012
This is clearly a taboo subject, even in a "progressive" online paper like the Huffington takes an overly careful approach. Yesterday, I posted a completely rational, respectful, non-profane, non-threatening reply to the comment by b benny 1. Today, I find that it isn't posted! Did I use a word that isn't allowed! Did I express a though that shouldn't be thought! Has the whole country gone crazy. Are we back in the 1950's, the new red scare! We are supposed to be Americans.... land of the free-------home of the brave.. Edit this out if you want. I refuse to live in fear!
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lamarlord7
02:09 PM on 02/23/2012
The Emperor has finally flipped his lid!!!!!!
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12:48 PM on 02/23/2012
Levin should be concerned at all the crime and murders and hazing, and discrimination of women at Yale, and not with New York City police business. New Haven is a dump.
01:06 AM on 02/23/2012
I don't know why keeping this country a democracy is antithetical to the the values of New York's "mayor"... Oh wait, I do. He's a fascist.
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leyvadaniel
10:54 PM on 02/22/2012
The funny thing is, the same people who defend the NYPDs wrongdoings are the same ones that applaud the Cath_olic church abuse on children and say that "never happened"
10:03 PM on 02/22/2012
The Elys must live in a sheltered place, where reality isnt. Defense and law enforcement monitor ethnic and religious groups all the time - not because the groups are suspect at larges - but obviously because there are specifically identified threats concentrated in and among certain groups far moreso than others. They have to and must continue to monitor and infiltrate. Messages posted on the Internet are NOT personal or private communications and you would have to be the biggest sucker who ever lived to overlook the low hanging fruit when it comes to potential threats.
03:28 PM on 02/23/2012
The NYPD is not pursuing potential threats or leads - it's hunting for anything to target casting a wide net and keeping records on people that have nothing to do with terrorism.

Also, does the NYPD monitor and track all Irish Catholics in NYC and the country? - They have a history for terrorism - All Catholic churches should have close surveillance as many Irish (and therefore potential terrorists) and child molesters attend and work in Catholic churches and schools. I think child sexual abuse is a somewhat serious crime, specially for parents and when it's an established fact that many priests are sexual predators and the Catholic church hierarchy has condoned and protected the perpetrators of these crimes against families and has ignored existing laws in this country in order to prevent prosecutions for these crimes.
08:09 PM on 02/29/2012
I certainly hope the NYPD monitors any and all groups, whether identified by religion or any other association, if by monitoring "out on plain sight" communications and messages they may obtain information that may prevent violence or capture a purpatrator. If the message, expression or communication is accessible to the public by internet or by joining a student group and going on a raft trip, its not private, its not protected and law enforcement is not restrained from gathering potentially useful info and data.
VA Jill
Retired RN, Army mom. Bring the troops home!
03:33 PM on 02/22/2012
NYPD does not have authority outside the city of New York, and had no business going where they went. Last I heard they had not been deputized as an arm of the FBI. Don't they have enough to do in their own city?
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pciorlandosales
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06:55 PM on 02/22/2012
Wrong and Wrong again. It's ridiculous how you people spout off about things you know little if anything about. If an investigation originates in New York, city or state it can be carried over to another state as long as that states agency authorizes and is aware of the investigation. It has nothing to do with having enough to do in their own city, that's irrelevant.
08:28 PM on 02/22/2012
Temper temper.
VA Jill
Retired RN, Army mom. Bring the troops home!
12:04 AM on 02/23/2012
It seems the authorities in at least one of the other states (New Jersey) had no knowledge of it, and it appears that Gov. Christie is just a little bit ticked off. NYPD needs to clean up its own house......which will never happen.
02:44 PM on 02/22/2012
I was on a visit 2 yrs ago with my 2 sons ages 10 & 8 to nyc in July 4th to see my NYankees play after the game we went to the city to check out ground zero on our way there I was stopped by 3 men. I did not know who they were, one grabbed my arm I'm a trained USMC Officer that served in the 91 Gulf War so I defended myself throwing one of the men to the ground. A second later the other 2 pulled guns on me. It was then they ID themselves as police & arrested me. I asked them "why did you grab me what did I do?' while I was placed in the cruiser, I heard a man yell out "Your Black & in NYC! Brotha!" all charges were dropped & that was our last visit to NYC. It's called stop & frisk with out need for a warrant .. and I served to protect this.
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Eno
More of the same ol same ... A change has to come.
04:47 PM on 02/22/2012
I hope you have a pending lawsuit.
09:22 PM on 02/22/2012
Sadly I don't think he has a case. In the court's eyes he resisted the cops. Stop and frisk is such a stupid law. In 2011 88 percent of the people stopped were innocent. Also, 59 percent were black.
05:16 PM on 02/22/2012
Oh, please. No one yelled "You're black and in NYC, brotha!" at you - that's a lie. The police in NY are out of control and may indeed act in a way approaching buffoonish, but they're not yelling out cliched and horrible dialog straight out of a 80's cop movie. I call BS.
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SeptimusDSX
Always question the obvious.
07:51 PM on 02/22/2012
If you read carefully, he meant somebody in the crowd yelled that out, not the cops.
04:17 PM on 02/23/2012
he stated : "I heard a man yell our 'you're black....". It was not the Police officers. Police officers don't talk to people in this city- we are dirt.
01:56 PM on 02/22/2012
Obviously Levin doesn't have enough to do in his Yale job ... has to be out picking fights where he doesn't belong.
01:18 PM on 02/22/2012
the nypd prefers putting the taxpayers money into videotaping college babes than doing the daily police work that they care little about and routinely fail at.
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pciorlandosales
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06:58 PM on 02/22/2012
Yeah well it was those college babies that flew airplanes into the towers. So get a grip. :)
12:05 AM on 02/23/2012
He said "college babes", not "college babies", professor. LOL
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shupper
12:47 PM on 02/22/2012
"Keeping the country safe" as Bloomberg chooses to characterize monitoring individuals based on their ethnicity and/or religion, is entirely anti-thetical to any conceivable democratic paradigm.
squat6971
59 *was* divine -- 60? not so much
12:47 PM on 02/22/2012
I usually like Mayor Mike, but in this case he's waaaay over the line. Defending fascism in the name of "Safety" is a pretty tired meme.
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leyvadaniel
11:48 AM on 02/22/2012
Too much government. The moment academic institutions are ha_rrased by public officials, we are looking at the raising of totalitarianism. Bloomberg changed the rules of election, benefited himself and change them back. Another bad sign.
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pciorlandosales
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07:00 PM on 02/22/2012
If you think we are being too tough on the poor little Muslim's attending our colleges then why don't you try to get a student visa to enter Saudi Arabia? If your a white Christian .... then you can forget that.
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leyvadaniel
09:36 AM on 02/23/2012
Unlike you, I believe in the freedom (or whatever is left of it) granted by the Constitution. If you don't like what I have to say, you are FREE to ignore it. But maybe you should know that here in the USA we can speak our minds. You sound like someone from Iran, trying to repress people's freedoms. Our Colleges? you know segregation started awhile ago. Besides, they are American Citizens... in case you didn't know, there are American Born Muslims, this is not a "Christian" nation (thank God)
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10:38 PM on 02/24/2012
So you're saying we should be like Saudi Arabia?

That's a really radical thing to say. Maybe the Department of Homeland Security should investigate and monitor you. Clearly you want the United States to adopt the customs of a Muslim nation. Do you think we should adopt Sharia law too?

Yeah, I'm getting more and more concerned about you as I write. I think you should be investigated for, as Michele Bachman called it, "anti-American activities".