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GOP Candidates May Be Haunted In General Election By Social Issue Focus

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By CHARLES BABINGTON   02/23/12 02:55 AM ET  AP

MESA, Ariz. -- The longer GOP presidential candidates compete for conservative activists' favor, the more they risk alienating centrist voters who might feel that arguments over birth control are crowding out talk about how to create jobs.

Wednesday's televised debate highlighted the dilemma. The four contenders engaged in long, sometimes dense discussions of Planned Parenthood, education policy and congressional earmarks. Talk of jobs and the economy seemed to consume less time and stir less passion.

That's partly because of the questions asked by CNN moderator John King. But in general, his topics closely tracked the news coming from the campaign trail, and the candidates rarely tried to change the subject.

Rick Santorum's recent rise in the polls has focused new attention on social issues, especially abortion and birth control. Those topics fire up the religiously conservative crowds he often draws, but they might turn off more moderate voters worried about finding or keeping jobs for themselves and their families.

Meanwhile, there are signs that President Barack Obama may be benefiting from the increased GOP focus on social issues, at least a bit. A new Associated Press-GfK Poll found Obama with an 8-point lead over Mitt Romney, 9 points over Santorum and 10 points over Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul. The survey showed the president dominating among independents, a group central to his 2008 victory. Their support for Obama had faltered in recent months.

Obama is far from safe, of course, and any number of problems – starting with a possible economic dip – could undo him before November. But his supporters had to be happy with a two-hour Republican debate that often showed the candidates quarreling over congressional procedures, a distasteful topic to many Americans.

The debate, which came six days ahead of the Arizona and Michigan primaries, was especially difficult for Santorum. The former Pennsylvania senator got pinned down trying to explain his now-regretted vote for President George W. Bush's "No Child Left Behind" education program.

"I have to admit, I voted for that," Santorum said. "It was against the principles I believed in, but, you know, when you're part of the team, sometimes you take one for the team."

Santorum also got bogged down explaining how he voted for a massive spending bill with funding for Planned Parenthood – a group he strongly opposes – because it was the only legislative vehicle to fund vital programs elsewhere. "I think I was making it clear that, while I have a personal moral objection to it – even though I don't support it – that I voted for bills that included it," Santorum said to scattered boos.

It was reminiscent of John Kerry's infamous 2004 remark, "I actually voted for the bill before I voted against it." Like Kerry, Santorum was trying to explain parliamentary realities that leave many voters cold.

The debate went much better for Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and the Republican establishment's preferred candidate. But Romney also spent precious time trying to explain why he supported bailouts for banks but not the auto industry, and why he attacks Santorum's congressional earmarks even though Romney successfully sought earmarks for the 2002 Winter Olympics.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich chided Romney on that point. "I just think it's kind of silly for you to then turn around and run an ad attacking somebody else for getting what you got," Gingrich said.

Gingrich, who chose "cheerful" as the best word to describe himself, did not show his traditional bombast, and it's unclear whether he did anything to start gaining ground on Santorum and Romney. Paul, the Texas congressman, also did little to change his place in the field, sticking to his familiar libertarian themes.

Santorum's surge has forced all the candidates to talk more about social issues, with varying degrees of comfort. King asked Santorum to explain why he has talked in the past of the "dangers of contraception."

Santorum began discussing the decline of the American family and "the increasing number of children being born out of wedlock in America, teens who are sexually active."

It seemed an argument that might justify the use of birth control, but no one challenged Santorum on that point. Paul, who delivered many babies as a doctor, said birth control pills "can't be blamed for the immorality of our society."

For some GOP activists, the whole conversation was on the wrong track. Republican adviser and hostess Juleanna Glover said on her Facebook page that women will think all Republicans oppose birth control "and none but the 1 percent of Catholic women who never used birth control will vote for (the) GOP nominee."

Republican consultant Matt Mackowiak said it was the first debate "in which Santorum took the most attacks, and they did some real damage. Santorum was forced to explain his `mistaken' vote in favor of No Child Left Behind, defend earmarks and explain his 2004 endorsement of liberal Republican Arlen Specter," a GOP senator from Pennsylvania who became a Democrat before losing his seat.

Even with 10 states voting in the March 6 "Super Tuesday" primary, the Republican contest shows no sign of wrapping up soon. The longer the candidates talk about birth control, No Child Left Behind and the wisdom of backing Arlen Specter, the longer Obama – who goes to Florida on Thursday to talk about energy and economic issues – will breathe a little easier.

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EDITOR'S NOTE – Charles Babington covers national politics for The Associated Press.

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MESA, Ariz. -- The longer GOP presidential candidates compete for conservative activists' favor, the more they risk alienating centrist voters who might feel that arguments over birth control are crow...
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zinxeb
Empathy ends cruelty
01:45 AM on 02/24/2012
The topics discussed by the republican neocon candidates during the debate are their strongest topics...if you're looking for debates on jobs, the economy, foreign policy (everything but warmongering) and environmental issues, you just aren't going to find them in neocon debates...they don't have a clue on these issues.
04:28 PM on 02/23/2012
Why would a woman vote for the GOP? Can anyone provide a legitimate reason? I'm having a lot of trouble comprehending it.
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efell
where is my mind?
02:55 PM on 02/23/2012
There's the rub. They can't talk about the economy while it is improving. It usually takes five years to rebound after a sharp downturn. If that is the case this time around the Democrats will easily take the general election in November and be in a comfortable position to repeat in 2016. The GOP has more trouble on their hands than they are even aware of.
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Gestas
Mountain Man
12:11 PM on 02/23/2012
We sure have learned allot about the Republican Party....and it was really ugly...
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rschli7137
12:06 PM on 02/23/2012
They simply have no clue on jobs, growing the economy, etc. They have to talk about birth control, women's choice, trans-vaginal ultra-sounds, who's a "Christian" and who isn't........
Obama won 56% of the female vote last election, this time, maybe 65%. These debates have been Obama's best offense. Thank you very much!
Obama/2012....count on it!
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nana-anne
just trying to make sense of the senseless
11:40 AM on 02/23/2012
This entire fiasco is an exercise in futility. Whomever the GOP finally end up with as their standard barer, there is little chance that they will win the White House. They have spent all this time showcasing their ineptitude and their dearth of leadership. The final possibilities are all men who have lost (or would have lost) their last positions as public servants. They are the best the GOP has to offer. SAD.
11:25 AM on 02/23/2012
Gee HP< glad you got a quote from a GOP "hostess."

As in gives parties, or you pay her for a lap dance at the GOP's favorite nude bar?

EARTH TO GOP COMMENTATORS:

It is not "maybe" -- as in maybe the things they are saying they BELIEVE will come to haunt them -- it is DONE. Signed, sealed and delivered.

Do you think women are asleep right now?

Not paying attention?

OR we girls will just forget all of that stuff in our pretty little heads come general election time?

OH NO - Santorum's statements that contraception is NOT OK, Romney's support of forced ultrasound testing, all of their attacks on Planned Parenthood funding for women's cancer and health screenings . . . . . WE HAVE HEARD IT ALL.

WE HAVE LISTENED.

And we KNOW exactly where they stand.

They can't run from their positions.

They can't hide from their words.

Come fall, Mitt or Rick can flip flop all they want (and they do it so well), but we KNOW what they said and we know that they said they BELIEVE THESE THINGS.

Train left station. Ship sailed. Neither of them can do anything better than Obama on the economy, and so we have only to judge him and them by their stands on women's health.

Game over. Polls already show women oppose Santorum 2 to 1. If Mittens wins, he's got his own litany of anti-women's health positions.

Their positions won't "haunt' them -- they will
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goteamobama2012
is are children learning? -GWBush
02:36 PM on 02/23/2012
oh and lets not forget mittens household pet Seamus!.. The beautiful Irish Setter who was set on top of the family station wagon for hours!... dogs against romney!
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MMiddleDavid
I can see MSNBC *and* Fox from my front yard....
02:37 PM on 02/23/2012
I hope so, Kathy. As strange as it is to see the rare black GOP supporter, there do seem to be quite a few female GOP supporters. I'm not quite sure what they're thinking, but they must be seeing a different party than you and I do....
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marta76
Recovered Republican
02:45 PM on 02/23/2012
I've wondered about that too...some must be of an age that they think it doesn't apply, forgetting their daughters, grand daughters, nieces...etc. I am am at that age too, but I try to remember that older women fought for me and I must return the favor. Obama 2012
11:20 AM on 02/23/2012
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11:12 AM on 02/23/2012
I'm tired of seeing Mitt and Rick argue back and forth like a couple of teenage kids. Ron and Newt had the best night last night. And RP doesn't fall into line w/ Fed gov controlling this right.

RonPaul2012!
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11:11 AM on 02/23/2012
So the "...Talk of jobs and the economy seemed to consume less time and stir less passion ... ", eh?

Perhaps they're going off tangent simply because they know if they start to formulate their ideas of what's wrong and the steps necessary to get everything back on track, they'll be literally picked over like a skeleton. At best, I suspect they're quite aware their points of view on the economy, jobs and the deficit have huge gaping holes and to air it now would make it clear to the public they really don't have a handle on the issues and if they did win the elect, things might get worst, not better. Better to let the discussion stray off what's necessary to debate and use the fog of campaign rhetoric to confuse the public, hoping they'll assume a candidate will go in the direction the public thinks they should.
10:46 AM on 02/23/2012
This people should scare all of us , what a bunch of Kookos !
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Kate Zeiss
What fresh Hell is this?
10:38 AM on 02/23/2012
Republican candidates have to avoid substantive issues because they haven't thought about solutions at all . . . the GOP has gone all-in on unseating Obama . . . it might not be a bad idea for somebody in the party to start asking . . . and then what?

But, I think they know they've already lost . . . these candidates are starting to look a little punch-drunk and they still have a long way to go . . .
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11:15 AM on 02/23/2012
Well, that's true. The GOPer base is more interested in removing Obama than they are in fixing the economy or creating jobs. So as long as the GOP candidates keep playing to the desires rather than the needs, they could win simply on a platform of hatred. It says a lot about the base the GOPer's need to get elected, but more about how divisive our society has become. Politics based on hatred was suppose to have gone out with the NAZI's, I thought?
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Kate Zeiss
What fresh Hell is this?
12:52 PM on 02/23/2012
The segment of their base that you mention isn't large enough to deliver a "win" . . .
11:27 AM on 02/23/2012
Substantive issues?

I kinda think defunding Planned Parenthood so poor women can't get breast cancer and other screenings is substantive.

Or candidates who say they don't believe in birth control.

Or that pre-natal testing is bad.

I don't see women's health and LIFE issues as "non-substantive."
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Kate Zeiss
What fresh Hell is this?
12:50 PM on 02/23/2012
I consider them non-substantive because they are frivolous gestures, dog whistles for the radical base that, I seriously doubt, will ever be introduced as serious legislative projects. If it ever came to be, I expect that sanity will prevail . . .
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NovemberScorp
10:38 AM on 02/23/2012
please let them keep talking .... it helps to ensure President Obamas' re-election :)
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GEORGE W TUSH
To Republicans, Earth is a MILF.
10:37 AM on 02/23/2012
One of these GOP candidates really could be the next president, if the female population of the US suddenly decreases from 51% to 11%

Here's the story of 2012: The GOP has proven that it's as bad picking candidates as it is at governing
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rockinrod
"Those that I fight I do not hate."
08:27 PM on 02/23/2012
The Insane Clown Car continues to carom carelessly.
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AMCD
I'm one of the 99%
10:29 AM on 02/23/2012
Where's.
The.
Jobs?

And stop imposing your moral values on others. You've already shown us you don't have any.