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Greek Debt Crisis Drives Heavy Losses For Europe's Banks

Posted: 02/23/2012 4:21 am Updated: 02/23/2012 7:32 pm


* Credit Agricole makes record quarterly loss of 3.07 bln euros

* RBS makes Q4 loss of nearly 2 bln pounds

* Dexia says at risk after 2011 net loss of 11.6 bln euros

By Steve Slater and Lionel Laurent

LONDON/PARIS, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Greece's debt problems drove a slew of heavy losses across the European banking sector on Thursday, and bosses warned the euro zone crisis would continue to threaten earnings.

From France to Germany, Britain to Belgium, some of the region's biggest banks lined up to reveal billions of euros lost through writedowns on Greek loans.

"We are in the worst economic crisis since 1929," Credit Agricole chief executive Jean-Paul Chifflet said.

Credit Agricole reported a record quarterly net loss of 3.07 billion euros ($4.06 billion), performing worse than expected from the cost of shrinking its balance sheet and after a 220 million euro charge on its Greek debt.

"We think 2012 is going to still be a tense period," Chifflet said, adding: "We're hoping that our results will be largely better than in 2011."

Europe's banks have already written down billions of euros from losses on Greek government bonds and loans, and a deal agreed this week with its creditors will inflict losses of 74 percent on bondholders.

"We can't say that the writedowns are over," said Franklin Pichard, director at Barclays France. "Even if some can say that the worst is over, we are only at a new stage in terms of provisioning and not necessarily at the end."

That is because, despite the bond swap deal, bondholders could suffer further hits if Greece's economy fails to recover.

Britain's Royal Bank of Scotland has marked its Greek bonds at a 79 percent loss -- or 1.1 billion pounds -- for 2011. The state-owned bank posted a fourth quarter loss of nearly 2 billion pounds on Thursday.


FAR WIDER THAN GREECE

Problems in Europe's banking sector are far wider than Greece, however.

"We have reduced the balance sheet of RBS by over 700 billion pounds of assets. That is roughly twice the size of the entire national debt of Greece," said RBS boss Stephen Hester.

The region's banks are still repairing the damage of the financial crisis and shrinking their assets. They must also find 115 billion euros by the middle of this year to shore up their balance sheets against future shocks. But any weakening in the economy will hit earnings and make that harder to achieve.

Germany's Commerzbank, whose fourth-quarter earnings were spoiled by a 700 million euro hit on Greek sovereign debt, needs to find 5.3 billion euros to meet the stringent new capital requirements set by Europe's banking regulator. It has now lost more than 2 billion euros on its Greek bonds.

Commerzbank said it could reduce some of its shortfall by shedding risky assets, though the debt crisis still had the potential to disrupt earnings.

"The high degree of uncertainty associated with the European sovereign debt crisis will ... continue to pose challenges for us," Chief Executive Martin Blessing said.


STILL ROOM FOR A BONUS

European governments are hoping to avoid more state bailouts to prop up the banking sector, and to limit the fallout should any bank collapse.

Bailed out Franco-Belgian bank Dexia warned on Thursday it risked going out of business. It suffered a 2011 net loss of 11.6 billion euros, hit by its break-up and exposure to Greek debt and other toxic assets such as U.S. mortgage-backed securities.

Dexia, which accepted a state-led break-up and the nationalisation of its Belgian banking arm in October and is now little more than a holding of bonds in run off, booked a 3.4 billion euro loss on its holding of Greek sovereign bonds.

French investment bank Natixis, rescued from near-collapse during the 2008 financial crisis by a government-backed merger of its retail cooperative parents, reported a milder-than-expected 32 percent decline in quarterly profits.

Despite the weak results, banks still found room for bonuses.

RBS, 82 percent owned by the British government, paid out almost 1 billion pounds in bonuses to staff in 2011. Credit Agricole said it would cut trader bonuses by 20 percent.

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03:46 AM on 02/25/2012
Do you guys know how stupid you sound blaming Obama fora U.S. financial crises that occurred before he came in to office. Now you're blaming him because Greece basically lied its way into the EU. Greece has a completely unsustainable economic system. And for those of you that think austerity cuts are going to solve the problem, it wont. Austerity cuts during periods of low growth will not be successful, particularly here in the U.S.
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shankapotomus
Carter and Clinton = deregulation.
09:16 PM on 02/24/2012
And thank you Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the democrats.
SamEasy
You really don`t want to know.
11:52 PM on 02/24/2012
And don't forget to thank Bush and Cheney for their 2 trillion dollar illegal war and their stupid tax cuts that obvioulsy didn't help the economy. Let's make sure we SHARE the blame.........
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CreepyThinMan
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02:06 AM on 02/25/2012
SamEasy , didn't you know, the Conservatives are NEVER at fault no matter how much death and destruction they cause.
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shankapotomus
Carter and Clinton = deregulation.
09:31 AM on 02/25/2012
That had vnothing to do with the housing bubble, and what about O's 5 trillion in 3 years?
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shankapotomus
Carter and Clinton = deregulation.
09:14 PM on 02/24/2012
Obamanomics at its best.
07:14 PM on 02/24/2012
Keep paying out those big bonuses to these big shots as they know what they are doing. They stealing from all the idiots who are more interested in going to movies and concerts than they are worried about feeding their families. If people are worried about the riots in the middle east all they need to worry about now is what are they going to do when those riots appear in their own back yards. Our governments and big business have been stealing from us for too long and soon it will come back to roost. To me it is amazing how all these so called genius can't figure out how to solve these problems.
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06:56 PM on 02/24/2012
Seems to me no one is going to me hurt but the people. this is always the way it is, from US and around the globe. Why do you think it keeps happening. Easy, there is a ton of money being made. This 'so called' Crisis, is make believe.
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Photon55
08:34 AM on 02/24/2012
It is amazing that the three credit bureaus in this country are still in business when most Americans have no access to credit because of the galactic public and private debt in affect. Atttempting to get a loan for any purpose in today's depressed economy is a lesson in futility. With high unemployment, more layoffs, 35,000 in the postal service alone and the rising cost of living, gas going above $4 per gallon, plus costs for food and education, etc., the credit bureaus should be in the bankruptcy business.
frank1946
Tell the Truth
06:49 AM on 02/24/2012
Europe's Banks ?

USA Banks along with IMF participation own 30 % of Eurozone Debt.

Ben/Obama want to claim more of it. It is later than we think !

PIIGS are going down and taking America with them, America has more per capita debt
then France, Greece and Italy.

Obama has made a mess of USA Futures.
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Richard Bartholomew
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06:18 AM on 02/24/2012
'"We are in the worst economic crisis since 1929," Credit Agricole chief executive Jean-Paul Chifflet said.'

And yet the US$ continues to drop against the € like a five pound tμrd (http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=EUR&To=USD&image.x=33&image.y=10&image=Submit). So if Europe is in the worst economic crisis since 1929, what does that say about the U.S.A.'s economy?
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ibsteve2u
Someone who cares - to his unending regret
04:19 AM on 02/24/2012
People ought to read the Wikipedia article on financialization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financialization

The article includes "the decline of Habsburg Spain in the 16th century, the Dutch trading empire in the 18th century, and the British Empire in the 19th century: (It is also worth pointing out that the true final step in each of these historical economies is; collapse)" as examples of the consequence.

I think a reading of that article will lead many to conclude that is what is being done to America...and then to that is being done to Europe....and then to that is being done to the West.
09:42 AM on 02/24/2012
I've added it to my favorites for future reading and ref....thanks for the info
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JacksonAndy78
Usury Interest FEEDS BANKSTERS
03:16 AM on 02/24/2012
Iceland who TOSSED OUT OR ARRESTED THE BANKSTERS and arrested Politicians was upgraded by the rating agencies and the economy is growing!

They refused the BANKSTER’S DEBT DUMP! They forgave 13% of all Personal Debts!
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CreepyThinMan
More dapper than Don Draper.
02:09 AM on 02/25/2012
Iceland ruled by common sense.
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hazyafternoonsunshine
Life's a ball, buster!
02:31 AM on 02/24/2012
OK! I know a game we can all play! It's called let's pretend everything's OK! AKA viva la Cholera!
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hazyafternoonsunshine
Life's a ball, buster!
02:25 AM on 02/24/2012
Drum roll...
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kamact
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01:19 AM on 02/24/2012
In my world the TBTF banksters would be hunted,....as a sport,...and benefit to civilization,...
12:37 AM on 02/24/2012
Fear the future.
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AlanBannacheck
President of the Deep Thoughts Association (DTA)
12:36 AM on 02/24/2012
If Greece fails, the whole 32.5 trillion in derivatives will take down the world economy! However kicking the can down the road, waiting for a tide of inflation to grip our financial system is hardly a good idea either. Regardless, I expect for more hard times ahead. The party is over, and our hangover is will continue.
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07:07 PM on 02/24/2012
Not even kicking the can if you think about it... The real derivatives bubble is estimated at 700 trillion, don't think there is enough resources on the planet to cover that amount It can't be paid back unless you just create more money backed by nothing. Let's face it, the way money and finance is handled no longer works for the society we live in today.

Ideas of gold standard are also far too old and don't work for the world we are living. we need something like money based on the resources of the world. That would put things on a real footing. Someone finds a huge oil supply and money can be printed based on that. It really feels like we are going to have to drop money completely at some point cause even my idea is a stop gap.
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AlanBannacheck
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11:34 PM on 02/25/2012
I wrote an essay about how the great lakes could institute their own currency based on freshwater. Very interesting indeed