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Men Going Extinct? Scientists Say That's Unlikely, As Y Chromosome Not Degrading Rapidly

First Posted: 02/23/2012 8:59 am Updated: 02/23/2012 2:01 pm

By: Stephanie Pappas, LiveScience Senior Writer
Published: 02/22/2012 02:37 PM EST on LiveScience

Contrary to previous belief, men may not be on the way out after all. New research reveals that the Y chromosome is not rapidly degrading and is unlikely to disappear.

The idea that the male sex chromosome and its owners would someday vanish is based on the process by which our cells form sperm and eggs. These cells each contain pairs of chromosomes, or packets of DNA. When these cells divide, their chromosome pairs swap genetic information in a process called recombination (like shuffling two decks of cards before dividing them back into two decks).

Recombination allows the cells to repair genetic mistakes and mix and match genes. But unlike the other 45 chromosomes that carry human genetic information, the male sex chromosome, the Y, does not come with a matched partner to recombine with. Instead, it gets paired with an X chromosome. That means that when it comes time for cells to divide, the Y has no one to recombine with.

"The Y never gets a chance, because there are never two Ys in a cell," said study researcher Jennifer Hughes, Whitehead Institute in Cambridge, Mass. "What we have shown time and time again is that if you don't recombine, you degenerate."

This trick of nature means that today's Y chromosome contains only 3 percent of the genes it had when it started evolving separately from the X chromosome 200 million to 300 million years ago. That finding led to speculation that the male chromosome could crumble completely within hundreds of thousands or millions of years, perhaps taking men as we know them with it.

Changing chromosomes

But Hughes' new research suggests that men can breathe easy. She and her colleagues sequenced the genome of the rhesus macaque, an Old World monkey whose lineage split from that of humans 25 million years ago. Prior to this study, researchers could only compare the human Y chromosome with that of the chimpanzee Y. Chimps split from humans 6 million years ago, giving a limited portrait of the evolution of the chromosome.

A comparison of the rhesus Y chromosome with that of modern men revealed that reports of the chromosome's decay have been exaggerated. The two sex chromosomes are remarkably similar, Hughes told LiveScience. [5 Myths About the Male Body]

"For the most part, the gene content has not changed for 25 million years," she said.

The small amount of gene loss in that timeframe all occurred in the youngest 3 percent of the Y chromosome — the section that most recently stopped mixing and matching with the X chromosome. The findings suggest that while gene loss is rapid at first, it levels off into almost nothing.

"The rate of decay appears to have just basically ceased at this point," Hughes said.

The future of men

The reason for the Y's stability likely comes down to the fact that it simply can't lose anymore genes without vanishing completely. In other words, the genes that remain on the Y chromosome are so crucial that losing them might ensure that the organism doesn't survive. Natural selection favors those who can survive to pass on their genes, so overly degraded Ys simply end up on the trash heap of evolution.

Hughes and her colleagues plan to sequence the genomes of even more distantly related mammals, including mice, rats, marmosets and opossums, in hopes of tracing the evolution of the male chromosome back even further. But for now, the future of men seems solid.

"This is clear evidence that the Y is not going anywhere," Hughes said.

We asked Dr. John McDonald, a professor at the University of Delaware's Department of Biological Sciences, to clear up a few other genetic misconceptions. Keep clicking for six of his favorites:

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04:55 PM on 02/27/2012
We can't become extinct, who would woman blame all there problems on?
12:02 PM on 02/28/2012
I"m a woman and I don't blame ANY of my problems on men; I blame Republicans. :)
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OGigi
It is NOT only about the Economy
10:31 AM on 02/29/2012
and they could be the biggest influence over long term contraception
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03:22 PM on 02/27/2012
Forget twenty million years from now ... the fact is that today men have access to genetic information that women do not.

Sorry ladies ... but maybe Larry Summers was onto something.
Karma2U
Blessed are the Peacemakers
08:00 PM on 02/26/2012
I think we should first find a way to keep men from blowing themselves up - this would go a long way toward preventing extinction.
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JackieSmith890
03:27 AM on 02/27/2012
good point! it's be a good idea if we could teach men to stop starting wars and also to stop committing mass rape. it'd really help the world out.
Karma2U
Blessed are the Peacemakers
10:06 AM on 02/27/2012
Agreed.
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Chris7781
10:48 AM on 02/27/2012
We can help by raising children who do not regard the standard gender differences as inherent but rather something that is constructed by society that they are not expected to conform to. I was going to a baby shower this weekend and my nephew was like, "oh, those are for girls". I reminded him that boys are equally responsible for babies as fathers and that both genders should be equally invested in welcoming and providing for their children. Society builds boys up with very little expectation as to their ability to be reasoning, peaceful, cooperative members of society. It's sad.
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NobleTry
There's more ground in the middle than at the ends
11:40 PM on 02/25/2012
I like dining at the Y.
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Kay Nicks
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05:22 PM on 02/25/2012
Men...can't live with them, can't live without them. Just the thought of men being extinct is a depressing thought. Some of my closest friends are men. I have many female friends, but the guys always give me fresh perspectives, and lots of laughs..& they're 'never' catty. lol.
I cannot even imagine..heaven forbid!
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JackieSmith890
03:28 AM on 02/27/2012
guys are way more catty than women.
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Morrisfactor
Just a little bent
02:11 PM on 02/28/2012
Jackie

You are unrelentingly anti-male.

Don't you get tired of posting misandry?
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03:30 PM on 02/25/2012
Suddenly the phrase "Can you come in here and get this bug" will just fade away.
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Otherday
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03:30 PM on 02/25/2012
Clearly, men deserve special kindness and care, targeted programs to improve our happiness and chances of survival, perhaps benefits and subsidies, and ample sexual opportunities to breed - after all, we are now, as this article shows, endangered species.
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emulsifier
I love the whole world, boom-de-ahda, boom-de-ahda
12:31 PM on 02/25/2012
hmm.. really interesting. I thought that the Y chromosome would degrade overtime. But this truly is surprising. I guess nature has its neat little fixes. So fascinating.
11:15 AM on 02/25/2012
White men might be extinct if TV doesn't quit promoting white women with black men all the time in commercials, movies, etc.,etc., i'm not a racist but sometimes i worry about the way we are being lead around by the media and you can't tell that i'.m the only one that notices these things.
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emulsifier
I love the whole world, boom-de-ahda, boom-de-ahda
12:26 PM on 02/25/2012
umm. TV is NOT promoting interracial marriages like you say it is. If there was such an acceptance of this, you wouldn't have seen recent news about the qualms people were having about ads incuding interracial couples.

Also, mixing genes is a good thing biologically.
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Kate Lynn
01:32 PM on 02/25/2012
Yup, the controversial statement, then the "No offense" or the "I'm not a racist"
02:10 AM on 02/25/2012
If a man says something and no woman hears him is he still wrong? If men go extinct who will take out the garbage? Who will eat the leftovers? Who will remove the dead things? Who will kill the spiders? What will happen to the beer industry?
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Kate Lynn
01:32 PM on 02/25/2012
Looks like some of us women are good enough to work those positions.
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Brianna Cole
Attempting an open mind on all things.
11:37 PM on 02/26/2012
I was going to mention, I can do all of those things just fine.... And beer is great!
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Chris7781
10:54 AM on 02/27/2012
It's unfortunate for men that the media has characterized them as only being good at these things. Meanwhile, women (who can do all of those things on their own) are portrayed as the multi-taskers, decision makers, and the only mature parent in any two-parent household. Men have been duped and should start working very hard to push back against the media that views them as big kids who can't control themselves. You can start by letting the media know that objectifying women in the media is a cheap shot that contributes to the rape culture and is something that men - who are mature and thoughtful - will no longer allow as the example of what appeals to them.
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Barbara DeZan
Knowledge is Power
01:24 AM on 02/25/2012
I'm amazed at this thread.......

It should be called "girls" not old enough to vote.

With all the serious women's issues currently, this stuff is what you are concerned about?

This entire "women" section is a waste of print.
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livefortruth
There is only ONE truth.
09:31 AM on 02/25/2012
This is the science section.
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NobleTry
There's more ground in the middle than at the ends
11:32 PM on 02/25/2012
It's not a waste of print! It's an endless source of comedy!
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JackieSmith890
03:29 AM on 02/27/2012
it wasn't meant for you. so don't read it. go play call of duty.
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Tazirai
Society is not your friend.
12:54 AM on 02/25/2012
At a population count of 7.5 Billion, and dirty air, bad food, High health costs, poor access to clean water, greed, environmental degradation, religious fundamentalism, and the fact that we can't live off Earth. The Y Chromosome is the last thing i'm worried about.
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Kate Lynn
01:33 PM on 02/25/2012
I agree. We still have cancer among other diseases to cure and we're studying THIS nonsense?
11:31 PM on 02/24/2012
There once was a science fiction story about the last man left on a world filled with women. They had him sleeping with the best and brightest about 10 times a day. He had the best of everything. Every man's fantasy, right? He was worn out, tired of sex, and wanted a break. Better watch what we wish for. And I, for one, have no intention of becoming extinct.
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Barbara DeZan
Knowledge is Power
01:25 AM on 02/25/2012
In stead of worrying about this.....read "The Handmaiden's Tale".......

THAT'S what is going on with women in the real world.....
02:08 AM on 02/25/2012
Maybe Margaret Atwood just had an unpleasant childhood. Most, if not all, of her writing is depressing. Not that I don't enjoy reading her but maybe she's just depressed. She doesn't exactly write uplifting stories.
10:48 PM on 02/24/2012
Nah, somebody, somewhere will figure out the Z chromosone and get us off this rock.