Raw Milk Farmer Daniel Allgyer Forbidden From Selling His Product Outside Pa.

PHILADELPHIA — A central Pennsylvania farmer has been prohibited from selling to out-of-state customers unpasteurized milk, which the government says can be unsafe.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced Wednesday it obtained a permanent injunction against Daniel Allgyer (AL'-guy-ur) and his Rainbow Acres Farm in Kinzers.

The agency says raw milk can contain harmful bacteria. The milk can be legally sold within Pennsylvania but not elsewhere. A federal judge granted an injunction Feb. 2.

Allgyer argued he was leasing his cows through a private organization to consumers in Washington, D.C. He can still sell raw milk in Pennsylvania. He hasn't returned a message seeking comment.

Another dairy, Family Cow, in Chambersburg, resumed bottling raw milk earlier this month following an 11-day shutdown after dozens of illnesses were reported in four states.

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[alfredobadger]

04:43 AM on 03/11/2012

has anyone heard the news about the shocking TORTURE of a 65-year-old "milk man" in California.

[Eah Wel]

02:01 PM on 03/06/2012

READ: http://www.prweb.com/releases/AAAAI/hygienehypothesis/prweb9224359.htm
“Our next goal is figuring out the farm life factors that are protecting the children we studied in the hope of offering some form of intervention for children at risk to lower their potential of developing allergies and asthma. Early exposure to farm animals and drinking milk directly from the farm, which is neither pasteurized nor homogenized, may be key factors," explained Dr. Holbreich.

[HazelPethigFan]

07:03 PM on 02/24/2012

now all of a sudden the anti modern ag crowd is screaming for libertarian, conservative food freedom at any cost. "get the gubbermint out of my food".

you people will strip your gears changing your message this fast

[SpiralUp]

04:16 PM on 02/24/2012

ridiculous overreach of federal power. Put it on my grocery shelves with skulls and crossbones on it. I"ll STILL buy and drink it.

[jeanruss]

03:35 PM on 02/25/2012

our family has been drinking raw milk for over a decade and have enjoyed superior health. The only purpose for pasteurization is profit. It gives much longer shelf life. Pasteurization destroys the health potential of milk because the benefificial enzymes and bacteria are destroyed and the proteins de-natured and very difficult to digest. I wouldn't include milk in my diet if it wasn't raw, as the health benefits are gone.

[SpiralUp]

06:56 PM on 02/25/2012

exactly Jean. I am very grateful that I can purchase it and they can take it from me when they pry my cold dead fingers... well, you get my drift

[miltonc4l]

02:37 PM on 02/24/2012

Ron Paul has introduced legislation to repeal the ban on interstate sales of raw milk.

http://www.naturalnews.com/034941_Ron_Paul_raw_milk_health_freedom.html

Massive federal bureaucracies like the FDA play right into the hands of the big corporations. The corporations write the regulations(for their own benefit) and the FDA puts the power of the law behind the bills written by Monsanto and Cargill's lobbyists. Laws which crack down on small farming operations and make it prohibitively expensive for them to remain in business.

Freedom is a good thing.
Ron Paul 2012!

[miltonc4l]

02:20 PM on 02/24/2012

Isn't the FDA wonderful for preventing this EVIL dairy farmer from foisting his hazardous products on people?

[taddles]

02:44 PM on 02/24/2012

150 times the likelihood of contracting a milk born illness from raw milk than from pasteurized? Yes, they are.

[miltonc4l]

02:52 PM on 02/24/2012

Thank you for all the research and statistics. Now that I'm fully informed, I don't need the FDA telling me what I can and can't do.

[SpiralUp]

04:17 PM on 02/24/2012

statistics?

[aphextwin07]

10:44 AM on 02/24/2012

haha, why would people buy this and risk getting sick? hard to imagine it would taste much better than pasteurized milk, at least to warrant taking that kind of risk.

[Parkite]

11:43 AM on 02/24/2012

Contrary to what the CDC and the industrial dairy industry say, raw milk has health benefits that pasteurized milk does not. It is not just taste. While 150 times greater risk sounds like a lot, in absolute numbers, it is quite small. Plus, the 150 X number also INCLUDES milk that was not intended to be sold /consumed as "raw" milk, it includes milk that was "under" pasteurized/pasteurized improperly. It all goes back to buy local, know your farmer, producer, etc.But accidents do happen (even when food is produced using all the main stream practices), that's life.

[taddles]

01:37 PM on 02/24/2012

Well no it is no quite small. Knowing your farmer does nothing to mitigate the effects or occurrence of something like ecoli.

There is a huge difference between accidents in processing plants that are almost always caused by missed or lacking sanitation issues and risking your health on whether or not a bacterium, that your farmer has no way of guaranteeing is not present in your milk, makes you sick.

[taddles]

02:46 PM on 02/24/2012

"You really think that the CDC has the US consumer's best interest at heart? How much kool aid do you drink a day?"

You can't be serious, an industry supported advocate group is unbiased but the CDC isn't ?? Please, fill me in on why the CDC would actively foist false information on the public about milk safety but the raw milk advocacy group certainly wouldn't.

Seriously, who's drinking the cool-aid.

[Jennifer Kim]

03:38 AM on 02/24/2012

What a waste. I've drank raw milk, and have had 0 problems. How many people die from drinking raw milk? More people get sick and die from e coli and Salmonella thanks to red meat and chicken that haven been handled poorly. Go after bigger demons...

Jenny
http://www.organic-cocktail-recipes.com

[Parkite]

11:45 AM on 02/24/2012

F&F. Proud to be your first fan.

[taddles]

01:42 PM on 02/24/2012

What a disingenuous argument. The real argument would be how many people got sick or died before milk began to be pasteurized. In comparison to all m ilk and milk products sol din this country the amount of raw milk sold is verging on nothing. That there are as many incidents of sickness in that miniscule amount of raw milk sold is huge.

I've "drank" lots of thin in my lifetime and not gotten sick, that is not an indicator of whether something is toxic or not, just an indicator that I was lucky or my system was able to handle it. That fact that you with your developed immune system might be able to drink raw milk is not indicative of the results that a baby with a developing immune system might see in fending off an ecoli infection.

[It is I]

12:59 AM on 02/24/2012

Oh, so raw milk is dangerous, eh? Someone should inform Queen Elizabeth II and the other members of the British Royal brood, as apparently they've missed the memo. It has been a part of their diets for decades! See:
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/double-standard-queen-drinks-banned-raw-milk.html

[taddles]

01:46 PM on 02/24/2012

"According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), there were 86 reported food poisoning outbreaks from raw milk between 1998 and 2008, resulting in 1,676 illnesses, 191 hospitalizations, and two deaths.

Raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak, says Hannah Gould, Ph.D., senior epidemiologist with the CDC's Enteric Diseases Epidemiology Branch."

Yea actually it is.

[HazelPethigFan]

08:32 PM on 02/23/2012

As their next trick, the anti-ag technology movement will try to ban tractors.

Then they will try to repeal the scientific fact that the earth revolves around the sun and promote the use of leeches to cure us all of any ailments.

[BluebirdofUnhappiness]

08:11 PM on 02/23/2012

http://www.yourfamilycow.com/current-events.html
It was us
by Edwin Shank, February 3, 2012, 7:39am
Dear Friends,
I know this is going to shock a lot of you. You trusted us to never do this. But...it was us. Food from our farm has made people sick.
The MD Department of Health reported yesterday that they have isolated campylobacter in two unopened jugs of our raw milk that they retrieved from a customer's refrigerator. The milk was bottled on January 16th and carried a best by date of 1/31.

You take your chances. I wouldn't feed it to my kids.

[Parkite]

11:26 AM on 02/24/2012

Blue - no one is asking you to take chances with your milk. Let those people that know the risks, make their own decisions.
NEWSFLASH! Life is not risk free. People make calculated risks everyday, most without even realizing it. Driving a car, walking on the street, buying meat, eggs, peanut butter, cantaloupe, sprouts.

[BluebirdofUnhappiness]

01:17 PM on 02/24/2012

Because people who drink raw milk always understand the risks. http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/raw-milk-videos.html Especially since this is the group of people who imagine all sorts of unproven health dangers in various foods. Don't eat sprouts either, BTW. Unless you cook them. And wear your seatbelt, too.

[taddles]

01:47 PM on 02/24/2012

Huh , same argument could be made for wearing seat belts and for labels on chemical bottles and a whole host of other things that are government regulated because allowing you the people to decide results in sick and dead people.

[John Wolven Sr]

07:32 PM on 02/23/2012

Why isn't the FDA doing it's job protecting the public from BAD DRUGS??? Lawyers are making a bundle on law suits against drig manufacturing companies producing drugs that cause harm to people. The drug companies don't care;..because they have made millions. They pay the suits and re-open under a different name, and sell different drugs until the next lawsuit(s) hit. But let's try to stop this farmer from selling fresh milk & milk products. Lets all buy from MONSANTO! Their GM food products are healthy folks. They can drug a milk cow and the QUANTITY of milk produced is 1/3 to 50% greater and this drug "probably" won't have any adverse affect on those who drink it. KOOL AID ANYONE??

[Parkite]

11:27 AM on 02/24/2012

F&F.

[taddles]

01:50 PM on 02/24/2012

The drugs themselves are not bad, they are not infected with salmonella or listeria. There is a huge difference between a product that is inherently unsafe and a product that when used improperly is unsafe.

[John Wolven Sr]

03:46 PM on 02/24/2012

One law firm advertises "If your doctor prescribed (certain drug), and the results were damaging to death call (ooo)-BAD DRUG Telephone # matching with those letters. One anti- deppressent, offers suicidal tendencies as a possible side affect. How many many times have harmful over the counter drugs been removed from the shelves of drug stores (by lot number) after someone realized the lot was bad?? Instead of tighter control on these companies; the FDA is closing down farmers selling fresh milk and milk products, in many cases to club members who know exactly what they are buying;...and not even to the general public.This is what I call putting the em-PHA-sis, on the wrong si-LA-ble. How about the drug that Monsanto boasts will increase the amount of milk that a cow produces by 1/3 to 50% more. Any long term ill affects on humans drinking this milk?? I don'think the drug has been around long enough for lengthy testing. I'll deal with this as best I can. I would just like to see the farmers left alone. They are harmful to no-one.

[hopelv2u]

06:38 PM on 02/23/2012

I have six grown children....5 of which drank raw milk which we had delivered in Los Angeles county. Back then (late 60's) they were making a fuss about this diary delivering milk and products to door steps. None of my children had any serious illnesses, they are all healthy adults. Only reason we stop giving them the raw milk is we moved to a near by state. Anyone can look up the name of the company that delivered raw milk and diary products in L.A. county in the late 60's.

[bmcombs]

06:47 PM on 02/23/2012

The part that is illegal is the distributing it across state lines.

[taddles]

01:51 PM on 02/24/2012

And the fact that your kids didn't get sick counters the fact that thousands did how?

[John Wolven Sr]

10:44 PM on 02/25/2012

The Centers for Disease control & Prevention have reported approx 800 sickness situations since 1998;... which could have been related to consumption of fresh milk. Hygine surrounding milk cows over the years, and having milk tested (through dna) has dramatically reduced the possibility of sickness from drinking fresh milk. There also are health benefits in fresh milk that are lost during pasturization. This is no longer a debate about a health threatening issue. It is (once again) having freedom of choice being challenged or eliminated by "big brother."

[Tabre]

03:35 PM on 02/23/2012

It is called doing business in Ameria. You have to follow all the county, state, interstate, and federal laws with all the necessary permits for everything. The co$t of permits to do business increase all the time. Frankly it is how businesses keep government employees employed.

[Who wants to Know]

02:23 PM on 02/23/2012

As long as its properly labeled who cares!! Freedom and Liberty need to be restored

[taddles]

01:52 PM on 02/24/2012

Yea, like seatbelts and labels on toxic chemicals, who is the government forcing us to not be stupid? Freedom to be stupid!!!!

[Who wants to Know]

04:56 PM on 02/24/2012

And you have obviously taken up the offer to be stupid.

[taddles]

05:06 PM on 02/25/2012

That's like saying as long as s seat belt is properly labeled who cares if anyone actually uses them. If a bottle of bleach is properly labeled who cares if there's a child proof cap on it.. If an intersection is properly labeled who cares if there's a stop light.

It's all about freedom, you know the freedom to allow people to poison themselves because they didn't bother to read that label that you think will cure everything. Or the freedom to be poisoned because a farmer didn't use the simple procedure of pasteurization to remove the poison. Huh, wonder how that law suit would hold up? I'm sure you wouldn't have any case against a farmer who produced raw milk that killed your kid....oh wait, yes you would.