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OECD Head On Europe: 'We Have To Build The Mother Of All Firewalls'

European Debt Crisis

MARK STEVENSON   02/25/12 09:52 PM ET  AP

MEXICO CITY — Pressure mounted on Europe Saturday to build an even bigger financial stabilization fund to head off sovereign debt concerns, with the United States, Brazil, and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development all urging an increase.

While the advice coming out of a meeting of G-20 finance ministers, senior officials and central bank heads seemed overwhelming, Germany – Europe's main financial engine – appeared loath to fund yet another increase to stabilization funds that already have about 500 billion euros.

Angel Gurria, the head of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, set the tone at the conference, calling for about $1.5 trillion in "firewall" funds aimed at restoring confidence in European countries' debt.

"We still have to build the mother of all firewalls," Gurria said. "The thicker the firewall is, the less likely we'll have to use it."

Guido Mantega, the finance minister of Brazil, said "there is a very strongly shared opinion that first, the European countries should strengthen their firewall."

"The emerging countries are only going to help under two conditions," Mantega said. "First, that they reinforce their firewalls, and second that reforms are implemented in the International Monetary Fund." Brazil wants more representation for developing nations in the U.S.-led IMF.

Many want the IMF, which is already participating in European stabilization, to do more.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner added to the pressure, saying "I hope that we'll see, I expect that we'll see continued efforts by the Europeans ... to put in place a stronger, more credible firewall," though he didn't mention any amount.

Geithner acknowledged the work of European leaders, saying they have "made quite a bit of progress in convincing the world that they are not going to allow a catastrophic financial failure" in their countries.

But he also noted, "It's important not to rest on that progress, and recognize that progress is there in part based on the expectation that there are more things to come, more actions to come" on the financial firewall.

"They are not done. They know they've got more to do," Geithner said. He added that leaders had moved "slower than some people would like."

The Germans, whose powerful economy represents the economic keystone of Europe, seem loath to help fund yet more stabilization efforts.

In an editorial in the El Universal newspaper on the eve of the meeting, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schauble wrote that "should we increase even more the firewalls? The response is a resounding no." Schauble also rejected sharing other Euro-zone country debts, or expanding the euro money supply to meet countries' budget gaps.

"This would not only not solve the problems of debt and competitiveness that brought the affected countries to their current state of affairs, it would also discourage their governments from carrying out consolidation and reform."

German central bank president Jens Weidmann noted Friday that Euro-area political leaders will meet in March to decide whether to further increase the current 500-billion-euro financial stabilization effort, and while he didn't rule out increased funding, he said money alone won't do it.

"Higher walls of money can buy time, but that time must be used to tackle the roots of the crisis," Weidmann told a seminar prior to the ministers meeting. "Ultimately, Greece cannot be forced to comply with the program," he said of the indebted country's commitment to make fiscal, wage and other reforms in exchange for the European bailout.

"But it should be clear that no further disbursements will be warranted if Greece fails to keep its side of the bargain," Weidmann said.

Mexican central bank Governor Agustin Carstens said Friday that the "IMF's lending capacity is an issue that will be discussed" at Saturday's meeting among finance ministers and central bankers.

But one Canadian finance official, who was not authorized to speak on the record, said that "on the issues of IMF funding, I don't think we are near a consensus."

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01:47 AM on 02/28/2012
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9107485/George-Osborne-UK-has-run-out-of-money.html

George Osborne: UK has run out of money

The Government 'has run out of money' and cannot afford debt-fuelled tax cuts or extra spending, George Osborne has admitted.

In a stark warning ahead of next month’s Budget, the Chancellor said there was little the Coalition could do to stimulate the economy.

Mr Osborne made it clear that due to the parlous state of the public finances the best hope for economic growth was to encourage businesses to flourish and hire more workers.

“The British Government has run out of money because all the money was spent in the good years,” the Chancellor said. “The money and the investment and the jobs need to come from the private sector.”

Mr Osborne’s bleak assessment echoes that of Liam Byrne, the former chief secretary to the Treasury, who bluntly joked that Labour had left Britain broke when he exited the Government in 2010.

He left David Laws, his successor, a one-line note saying: “Dear Chief Secretary, I’m afraid to tell you there’s no money left”.

Mr Osborne is under severe pressure to boost growth, amid signs the economy is slipping back into a recession.

The Institute of Fiscal Studies has urged him to consider emergency tax cuts in the Budget to reduce the risk of a prolonged economic slump.
11:03 PM on 02/27/2012
All we hear about are the "Greek excesses" as if they all live in castles and drive Lamborghini's. It is the same debt saturation strategy for us all; drive down wages and the power of unions, while driving up costs, then encourage debt through easy credit and a tax policy as a shelter. It's so old and worn out we sick of hearing it.

We are a "debt developed" country, like Greece. But like England, we can just print more currency. Nothing complex about that. Let the Greeks go. Let them alone!
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Dosadi
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10:18 PM on 02/27/2012
LOL! I wonder if this has anything to do with Venezuela asking Europe to send its gold back. They asked for it back a few months ago and Europe doesn't have it. This is gonna be good.
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Dosadi
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10:16 PM on 02/27/2012
This is ridiculous. The world banking system already failed. This is to allow a few to keep their riches at the expense of others. But it is all for naught. The system has failed already and the efforts put forth will only make the final thud even louder.
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
08:13 PM on 02/27/2012
"on the issues of IMF funding, I don't think we are near a consensus."......IE:......nothing will happen....
02:01 PM on 02/27/2012
Dude, I lost your money. Can I haz more?
05:24 AM on 02/27/2012
Welfare State Europe has been an epic fail!

They exist as a cautionary tale of what happens when you impede the economic freedom necessary to drive an economy forward.

Kai
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
06:50 AM on 02/27/2012
The nuclear weapon here is not the excesses of the welfare state. That is chicken feed. It is the MASSIVE Credit Default Swaps bet on that debt! A "Credit Event" could cause the dominoes to fall like Lehman Brother/AIG in 2008.
08:51 AM on 02/27/2012
Yup. It's called "gambling" in most circles but better. If you win, you get to keep the money you won, and if you lose, you get to hand the bill to taxpayers. What's so hard about that?
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MilesToGo
01:08 PM on 02/27/2012
Good point. Cause & effect and connecting the dots is way too challenging for most simple ideologues. Facts confuse them.
02:06 PM on 02/27/2012
Thats the UN European zone. The North American zone is next. This is economic warfare by the globals oligarchs & their numerous treasonous minions.
11:08 PM on 02/27/2012
Agreed. We need to clamp down on the public unions and their oligarchal ways.
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FogBelter
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05:09 AM on 02/27/2012
Okay, how many hundreds of trillions of dollars does the US and Brazil expect this firewall to contain? This is a global crisis, not a European crisis, and since all economies (except maybe North Korea) are interlaced and interdependent, if one domino falls they all fall ... and we are looking at a quadrillion dollars worth of dominoes waiting for a slight push.
alunsulen
Digging the liberal hatred!
11:27 PM on 02/26/2012
LOL.. Remember Bernanke's bazooka? Haven't these fools learnt anything from its failure?
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Realist2011
beware false profits....
05:24 PM on 02/26/2012
"We still have to build the mother of all firewalls," Gurria said. "The thicker the firewall is, the less likely we'll have to use it."

Go for it. Don't bother with the facts that we in the US were told the very same thing. Provide a bailout fund large enough, and you won't need it. We did, and we did, plus trillions more so that we could end up right where we are now, still mired in the same problems. Let the "markets" lose for a change. So long as they keep "winning", they won't change. Failure is a great lesson.
04:55 PM on 02/26/2012
1.5 trillion to bail out the banks and keep pretending the system is working. It's like drinking another bottle to kill the hangover. One day you end up dead.
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Trustfunded1
04:41 PM on 02/26/2012
I guess they'll be hitting up the FED again on the Unlimited LTRO dollar swap line again.

The 3 Trillion dollars given to them by the FED last December must not have been enough.
03:01 PM on 02/26/2012
A $300 Billion or $ 500 Billion Fire Wall is pretty impressive if we are only shoring up investor confidence. More is Required for the "Firewall" Funds ($1.5 Trillion) because the OECD Knows It will Needed:

Angel Gurria, the head of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, set the tone at the conference, calling for about $1.5 trillion in "firewall" funds aimed at restoring confidence in European countries' debt.

"We still have to build the mother of all firewalls," Gurria said. "The thicker the firewall is, the less likely we'll have to use it."
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Indigo1941
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02:20 PM on 02/26/2012
Back to the drachma! And while they're at it, restore the monarchy!
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
01:49 PM on 02/26/2012
a central bank money fund is not a firewall!! these guys need English lessons...., they are just out of touch on many fronts....