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Are Rick Santorum's Comments On Higher Ed Out Of Step With The Public View?

Rick Santorum

JUSTIN POPE and KIMBERLY HEFLING   02/27/12 08:23 PM ET  AP

ANN ARBOR, Mich. — When Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum calls President Barack Obama "a snob" for wanting all Americans to attend college, he may be out of step with the public's overall view of higher education.

Many Americans are suspicious of the culture of academia, and most are angry about rising costs. But they overwhelmingly – and increasingly – agree that higher education is important and aspire to it for themselves and their children.

On the campaign trail, Santorum has criticized what he perceives as the liberal nature of the higher education community. He upped the ante on his arguments leading into Tuesday's primaries in Michigan and Arizona.

"President Obama has said he wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob," Santorum said Saturday. "There are good, decent men and women who go out and work hard every day, and put their skills to test, who aren't taught by some liberal college professor (who) tries to indoctrinate them. I understand why he wants you to go to college. He wants to remake you in his image. I want to create jobs so people can remake their children into their image, not his."

Santorum mischaracterized Obama's comments. In fact, the president has called for all Americans to obtain some form of education beyond high school, although not necessarily four-year colleges as Santorum has repeatedly implied, and for the United States to regain the global lead in those with college degrees by 2020. Many of Obama's higher-education initiatives, including a proposed $8 billion fund unveiled as part of his budget proposal earlier this month, focus on workforce development at community colleges that award certificates and degrees of less than four years.

The president, addressing governors at the White House on Monday, emphasized that goal again.

"When I speak about higher education we're not just talking about a four-year degree," he said. "We're talking about somebody going to a community college and getting trained for that manufacturing job that now is requiring somebody walking through the door, handling a million-dollar piece of equipment. And they can't go in there unless they've got some basic training beyond what they received in high school."

White House press secretary Jay Carney later said that he didn't believe Obama was specifically reacting to Santorum's "snob" comment. But Carney addressed it directly: "I don't think any parent in American who has a child would think it snobbery to hope for that child the best possible education in the future, and that includes college."

Santorum's main challenger, Mitt Romney, steered clear of pointedly agreeing or disagreeing with either Santorum or Obama.

"There's no question but that those who have the skills and the interest in going to college we'd like to see have that opportunity, but there are some people of course who have a different course in their lives," Romney said Monday in an interview with Detroit radio station WXYT. "Not all of our people are going to graduate from college, and we need to let people have their own course in life. But surely if someone wants to go to college we hope that the tuition cost of college will be affordable so people can make that choice for themselves."

Santorum and Romney each have three college degrees – a bachelor's, an MBA and a law degree. Obama has a bachelor's degree and a law degree.

Interviewed Sunday on ABC's "This Week," Santorum recalled a statistic that suggested more than 60 percent of kids who enter college committed to a faith leave without it. He said there are "some real problems at our college campuses with political correctness, with an ideology that is forced upon people who, you know, who may not agree with the politically correct left doctrine."

In December, at a campaign stop in Iowa, Santorum attacked the culture of higher education, telling voters that colleges and universities have become "indoctrination centers for the left." He also took a swipe at Harvard University's motto, "Veritas," which is Latin for truth. "They haven't seen truth at Harvard in 100 years," he said.

Santorum, a former two-term U.S. senator from Pennsylvania who lost re-election in 2006, has often criticized what he views as elitist. Some of his greatest levels of support have come from voters without a college education, said Chris Borick, director of the Institute of Public Opinion at Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pa.

Santorum's more recent comments on education appear part of an effort to energize blue-collar Republicans, and the topic provides a backdrop for him to define his conservatism, Borick said.

Elite colleges have long faced accusations they are out of touch politically with ordinary Americans. And in recent years, polls show eroding confidence in the integrity of colleges and that they have students' interests ahead of their own bottom lines.

However, in the last decade the proportion of Americans saying higher education is essential for success has roughly doubled from about 30 percent to roughly 60 percent, said Patrick Callan, president of the California-based Higher Education Policy Institute.

"There's a strong American sense ... that everybody ought to have a chance, and if they don't it's not a fair system," Callan said. While resentment and frustration over affordability are building, "I've never seen anybody elected to governor or state legislature by saying, `We're letting too many people go to college,'" he said.

According to a Pew poll from last March, 94 percent of parents with at least one child under the age of 18 think their child will go to college.

In a 2010 Phi Delta Kappa poll conducted by Gallup, 75 percent of Americans called a college education "very important" and 21 percent called it "fairly important," with just 4 percent calling it not important.

"Nobody in any of (our) focus groups ever said, `I'm so suspicious of those colleges, my kids not going. I'm going to home-school my kids for college,'" Callan said.

In January, the national unemployment rate stood at 4.2 percent for workers with at least a bachelor's degree, compared to 7.2 percent for workers with some college. The rate was 8.4 percent for people with just a high school degree, and 13.1 percent for those without a high school diploma.

Kathleen Hall Jamieson, an authority on political communications at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Center, said Santorum's comments are simply a "strategic misstep."

"You don't ever attack the aspirations of the American people, and the American people aspire to have children and grandchildren get a college or university degree, and they do it on simple economic grounds," she said.

Even conservative leader Ronald Reagan, who campaigned for governor in the 1960s against student protests at the University of California, Berkeley, was supportive of higher education once elected, said John Thelin, professor of higher education at the University of Kentucky and author of a history of American colleges.

While it's true on balance that college faculty probably lean left, generally colleges are fairly conservative institutions turning out students who "aim to be employable, to fit into existing organizations," Thelin said.

"I think a candidate possibly in desperation will look for something to latch onto. Once in a while it may be convenient to cite a campus or colleges in general as a fall guy for something," he said. "It's never the full basis of a campaign."

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Hefling, Associated Press writer Jim Kuhnhenn, AP Deputy Director of Polling Jennifer Agiesta and News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report from Washington.

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12:49 AM on 03/10/2012
Yeah this is pretty laughable that we have to attack educated people. If educated people are changing their beliefs when they enter college, well then hey maybe that is not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe people being exposed to new things helps them grow and find what is the truth. I am really leary of the way the right wing is attacking people who are educated.
Also the last poster did bring up a good point about college. I think he has a good point that we are telling people hey go to college and you will be successful if you get a degree. I don't buy into that just getting diplomas will grow our economy, it will only do this if training is recieved in the correct areas. Unfortunately many kids are going into the wrong fields. I think a lot of this is to blame on counselors who say just follow your dreams, without giving a dose of reality. I know that over 3/4s of the people in my college program never worked in the field because the jobs were not actually out there. We need more kids to become engineers, science majors, and mathematics majors because that is where the jobs are, unfortunately other countries are outcompeting us in these areas right now. Unfortunately this part of it is not explained as we don't give our kids a realistic impression of what you can get out of college, and what dangers you can run into.
12:41 AM on 03/10/2012
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nicolesbunny88
I admit when I am wrong...how about you?
09:45 AM on 03/01/2012
You get what you put into a college education. These idiots that call higher education, "liberal" are those that desire a populous of non-thinkers that can be told what they must think. This is why the U.S. media writes at a 7th/8th grade reading level. Only someone afraid of "elitist (read:educated)" individuals is someone that has something to hide.

If it is liberal to want to learn and think for myself and see a world where equality and fairness is prized over greed then i'll take it.
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bekakiraly
The Right thinks, the left feels.
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lily008
Figures don't lie, but liars figure.
05:48 AM on 02/29/2012
The right wingers are afraid of people getting educated? Hmm..
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bekakiraly
The Right thinks, the left feels.
09:22 AM on 02/29/2012
Getting brainwashed is not getting educated, dear.
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lily008
Figures don't lie, but liars figure.
12:17 PM on 02/29/2012
Haha and I thought you guys were ridiculous enough, now you want to discourage higher education? I'm sure you realize education is the surest way to rid oneself of ignorance, the foundation of your party. I honestly find you quite pathetic, dear.
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tulsey
I was Bill Hicks.
04:18 PM on 02/29/2012
You know that's right, so get off the fox facts.
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Khaidji
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08:28 PM on 02/28/2012
Santorum’s Not Obama’s Bo

So ridiculous to hear
And so hard to bear
Nominee possible Republicans
Trashing other politicians
Obama is the obvious target
Republicans slinging guns that are set
Unfortunately their aim is poor
Missiles launched with delusions of grandeur
Shot at a President who is amongst the good guys

No pretentiousness, no misplaced intentions, no biasness, no lies
Our country deserves to hear the truth
The vilifying should stop, all accusations with no proof

Obama honestly serves the nation and gives his all
By his very first month in Office he was up for the 3:00 am call
Assertive in his decisions and fair in his choices
Makes it a point to hear even the quietest voices
Assaults have been on his faith, ideology and of all things
Santorum attacks his dedication to education in his unjust spewings

But it is going too far the accusations are worse as we go
Our President is being debased, Santorum’s Not Obama’s Bo
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freedom1947
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03:15 PM on 02/28/2012
If you keep them dumb like your women, maybe you can win. The christian way?
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Siera Griffin
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03:39 PM on 02/28/2012
More like the extremist Evangelical Christian zealot way. Yeah, I know that was a mouthful but I couldn't resist. ;)
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tulsey
I was Bill Hicks.
04:20 PM on 02/29/2012
Dumb women can be hot, when you're drunk.
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freedom1947
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06:11 PM on 02/29/2012
I was sure that was a PUB idiology.
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wannabefree
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02:30 PM on 02/28/2012
Its a shame that this Rick said that "We dont need no education". Pot Pot of Cambodia said the same thing when he destroyed all the Universities with Professors, and Engineers and doctors in his hate for advancement of the world with education. I thought that we can listen to Pink Floyd's "We dont need no education" to understand our greatest Ricky Santora
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwTpZpwjtIE&feature=BFa&list=FLYnzs5pXXXkjpZFODTj5jmA&lf=plpp_video
01:36 PM on 02/28/2012
Rick Santorum knows what he's talking about! He attended three colleges and holds three degrees.
Pennsylvania State University (BA)
University of Pittsburgh (MBA)
Dickinson School of Law (JD)

While attending these various colleges, Rick was indoctrinated with left wing liberal ideas. He's now a progressive democrat who lost all faith in religion.

Or maybe not.
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tulsey
I was Bill Hicks.
04:21 PM on 02/29/2012
He cut a lotta classes.
01:27 PM on 02/28/2012
This is absolutely asinine! I feel so sorry for these candidates who will go to any lengths to distort the real issues and attempt to incite fear in the American public in order to achieve their own self-interests. Not once does Obama allege that people who fail to get some sort of education beyond high school are less than hard working or decent individuals. He simply points out the reality, as the numbers support, that having some college or post high school training "increases" not "guarantees" more access and better opportunities for securing employment (of course there are incidents which suggest otherwise, but again just look at the numbers). At some point this candidate believed higher education was important enough for him to obtain his bachelor's degree, an MBA, and a Law degree. But all of sudden....now, it's a slap in the face to suggest thate ducation is important for other's to aspire to. Come on people....please let's just be real and call these tactics what they really are........DESPERATE! There is too much work to be done to have our attention diverted away from our collective needs and efforts to get America to a place of stability and prosperity for all Americans.
12:44 PM on 02/28/2012
Mr. Santorum's comments are out of step and generally correct. These days college is more a right of passage than an important learning experience. I've known a number of people who learned more on their own than others who got a degree. However, society--especially employers, view college degree holders as superior to those who don't hold degrees.
11:37 AM on 02/28/2012
This highlights a major problem in our educational system. Over 80% of High School Freshman think they will go to college. In reality less that 16% of these high shool students ever make it to college. College (whether Community College or University) is viewed as the answer to future workforce problems. All around us, you will find Waiters and Waitress' with Bachleor's Degrees (and Master's Degrees) who can't find any other job even with their degree. I started college after graduating from High School. I dropped out after my first year, just as over 50% of college Freshmen do. I worked in the automotive industry-a program I studied in High School through vocational training. I returned to College at age 27 after learning what type of education I needed to improve my workforce skills. Our emphasis on college has resulted in cuts to Business, Automotive Repair, Woodworking, Electronics, Metal Working, Construction, Graphic Arts, and Music programs in high school. With high school directed towards college preparation, students are presented with their first major failure in life when they don't go to college. If they do attend college, they are presented with the failure there when they cannot finish their degrees. Finally, if they do graduate, because of poor academic counselling (and poor academic programs of study) they fail to find meaningful employment.