UPDATE: 6:15 p.m. USA Today reports that T.J. Lane, the suspect in Monday's Ohio school shooting, told authorities that he, "chose his victims at random," Geauga County prosecutor David Joyce said. "This is not about bullying. This is not about drugs."
Original story:
T.J. Lane, accused of killing three students at an Ohio high school, was arraigned Tuesday afternoon and ordered to stay in detention until his next court hearing.
"T.J. should remain in detention during these proceedings due to the serious nature of the allegations," said Geauga County Juvenile Court Judge Tim Grendell said, "and to protect the juvenile from the community … and himself."
Ohio state juvenile court laws require that Lane's detention not exceed 15 days before his next hearing. He'll be back in juvenile court on March 1, when prosecutors are expected to file formal charges against him in the slaying of three of his schoolmates.
Lane, 17, is suspected of killing three high school students and injuring two others at Chardon High School on Monday.
Prosecutors have until March 19 to file a motion that would try Lane as an adult in this case.
Because he's a minor cameras were not allowed to film his appearance. Several relatives, including his grandfather were in the courtroom.
A third victim, Daniel Parmertor, died from bullet wounds on Monday, just hours after getting shot.
Lane allegedly aimed for a specific table of five students in the school cafeteria and opened fire, putting some 1,100 students on lockdown. A teacher chased him from the building, and he turned himself in to police a little later.
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UPDATE: 6:15 p.m. USA Today reports that T.J. Lane, the suspect in Monday's Ohio school shooting, told authorities that he, "chose his victims at random," Geauga County prosecutor David Joyce said. "T...
UPDATE: 6:15 p.m. USA Today reports that T.J. Lane, the suspect in Monday's Ohio school shooting, told authorities that he, "chose his victims at random," Geauga County prosecutor David Joyce said. "T...
Looks like he had a motive. The poem he wrote on FB seemed to be about himself. It sounded like he had a lot of hate bottled up inside of him. How can he not? His father was abusive and he was picked on by kids in school. He sought out revenge.
Karla_Cochran: Looks like he had a motive. The poem he wrote
Let's not forget the harm emotional detachment does to kids and it's well documented that his parents were not available or there for him. He may have anxiety or depression issues that were never tended to because no one cared and he obviously felt alone. He talks about it in his writings. He needed help and guidance which never existed for him. He's not the only one to blame for this mess. A lot of people are.
Cmurp: Let's not forget the harm emotional detachment does to kids
I'll wait to hear that it was random killings,after all the facts are in,especially after court appointed psychiatrists are done with him....I don't just go on the word of investigators 2 days into it. But I'm neutral at this point,I know my opinion seems cold,but as per the severity of the situation,if it turns out that these kids bullied him,then they are not innocent,if it turns out that they Realy were innocent,then its terrible,but I won't rush to judgement.
warriorsonofodin: I'll wait to hear that it was random killings,after all
School is just a small representation of society as a whole. I remember kids in my high school years that were vulgar, rude, loners, and just generally 'off' that made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. One showed a fellow student a gun he had in his locker....the police came and took his gun and him away and he never came back. This was in 1977. What I'm saying is every community has some person or family living among them that no matter how hard you try to be neighborly, they just want to be alone and they are not friendly. It's human nature to not want to interact with strange, rude people with obvious animosity. That's not bullying, that's just a normal reaction from social people towards those that just aren't 'right'. I had one guy at work I had to train and he struck me as odd, strange and creepy. Several months later, he put an explosive in front of his girlfriends mom's door and rang the bell...when she answered, it blew and she suffered burns. He was angry with her because she forbade her daughter to see him...her instincts must have told her he was strange. I think alot of the kids in this school had their instincts tweeked by this 'off' kid and he felt bullied. This incident was not a case of bullying,but how people throughout society.
Just-the-truth: School is just a small representation of society as a
What is so disturbing, is this kid was obviously not uneducated, by evidence of his facebook post. What he felt, thought about and did, was planned. This isnt just because of being picked on, lots of kids are picked on, and there is only a small amount that end this way. A rediculously small amount in comparison. There is a mental issue here too. Whether it is fixable who knows, but keep him away from things containing a heart beat for sure.
mkmommy: What is so disturbing, is this kid was obviously not
I wonder if this pouting crybaby is getting his butt wiped for him in jail. So he discovers that life is tough and thinks that gives him a right to murder people. Life is tough. Get over it.
halideion: I wonder if this pouting crybaby is getting his butt
First it was Manson then it was drugs, pretty sure violent video games was somewhere in the mix, now it's bullying. How about we stop making scapegoats for crappy absent parents.
Chris_Papson: First it was Manson then it was drugs, pretty sure
Hurt or not, troubled or not, nothing gives him the right to hurt and kill others. If he doesn't either get life without parole or the death penalty something is wrong with the judges head. My condolences to the families and prayers to the wounded and dead.
smlyttle: Hurt or not, troubled or not, nothing gives him the
First of all let me state I have no empathy for this killer. I just want to know that with all the crimes in Philly by young African- Americans the never post their names or pictures; yet here we have the name and picture of the perp! Just wondering.
jumpinjohn011: First of all let me state I have no empathy
The article above states "court records and student interviews have shown that his father was abusive and kids regularly picked on him at school." I would understand "regularly picked on" as bullying.
So why would anyone want to torment a troubled teen? Or torment any troubled person? I mean, who gets off on that? Tampering with peoples emotions is *always* a dangerous thing with unpredictable outcomes, let alone doing it to someone who is troubled. And if the student population was aware of it, you can bet that at least some adults in the school were also. Our media (and politics) promotes ridicule, hate, contempt, maliciousness as common dialogue and entertainment, leaving respect, dignity, and the Golden Rule mere anachronistic words on paper. We have adults beating other adults at sports games, a Mom who misrepresents herself on the internet and torments a teen to suicide, kids soccer games that become free-for-alls between parents..... what's happening in schools is a sympton of the breakdown of societal taboos. Heck, we had, as of 2005, 118 million prescriptions for anti-depressents written (that's more than 1/3 the entire population), in an era where there is no famine, no war on our own land, no debtors prison, ie, we live in the best of times, yet people can't cope?
KarenQJ: The article above states "court records and student interviews have
I was really bullied in school. The bullies would wait for me, and I could them light up with evil delight when they saw me coming. They would follow me around when I tried to walk away, they would come and find me when I tried to hide. They would bully me in front of teacher and administrators, and no one did a thing to stop it. The would even bully during class.
I felt tons of anger, but I never brought a gun to school. Of, course, I'm from a different generation, and guns weren't available in my day, or that thought never crossed anyone's mind. I got even in different ways. I survived a lot more abuse than just bullying, so it's hard for me to allow these kids to justify themselves. The best revenge is living well. Would any of my former bullies like to see my bank account? Take that!
But I agree with you that our media does promote bad behavior, and that Golden Rule has been disparaged. Still, there is such a thing as conscience, and knowing right from wrong. It's everyone's responsibility to choose to do the right thing, and if you're being victimized, rise above it. Life's tough. You have to be tougher.
halideion: I was really bullied in school. The bullies would wait
Agree with everything you say. My only caveat is that many of these "troubled" kids situation are exacerbated now by the use of psychotropic drugs to "treat" them.... drugs known and acknowledge to cause both homicidal and suicidal thoughts. How do you "rise" above what the "experts" are literally shoving down your throat? I don't know that THAT was the case in this situation, but if it were, it's high time that we looked at this "treatment" industry with greater circumspection. I too was bullied as the "new kid in school". It stopped when I stood up to them, and for myself. Not an easy place for a teen to go.
KarenQJ: Agree with everything you say. My only caveat is that
I feel more empathy for the families and victims of bullies who chose suicide. This kid did not chose suicide. I wish bullies and their families learn from the tragic consequences.
TurnToTheLeft: I feel more empathy for the families and victims of
I was a bullied kid. I never killed anyone as a result. I never thought of harming myself. I resolved that living well would be my best revenge. And it has been. I was able to turn the negatives into positives. I got a good education. I applied myself, and became a success.
I'm not some kind of super hero. I'm just a regular guy. I was bullied as kid, but refused to let that define me. If I can do it, anyone can. There is no excuse.
halideion: I was a bullied kid. I never killed anyone as
Thank you for that post! While I, along with everyone, would love to see picking on and bullying gone, there is more to it than that. The number of kids "bullied/picked on" is a big number, the number of suicides and murders because of it is a very small number in comparison. There is something mentally going on with this kid as well. He is certainly not uneducated from the post he wrote, but also certainly has a very dark side that didnt just come from bullying.
mkmommy: Thank you for that post! While I, along with everyone,
You did great, however there are those that are not as strong as you. I do think what he did was horrific, but I do feel that he had no one to turn to. His granny was probably too busy getting her groove on. Mother and Father ( or should I say, woman who birthed him and sperm donar) were no where around. He was destined from the get go. When you cut wood, the chips don't fly too far from the stump.
OpoopDeDo: You did great, however there are those that are not
First Posted: 02/28/2012 4:38 pm Updated: 02/28/2012 7:06 pm