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JPMorgan Chase Argues Bank Accounts Are Like Netflix Or Gym

The Huffington Post   Catherine New First Posted: 02/29/2012 9:53 pm Updated: 03/01/2012 5:41 am

JP Morgan Chase wants consumers to believe that a maintenance fee for a checking account is just another ordinary item in a household's monthly budget, accounted for in the same way as Netflix fees and a gym membership.

Earlier this week, the head of the Chase's consumer banking division Todd Maclin said he would "celebrate" if the bank could charger even higher fees, according to the New York Times' live blog from the bank's investor day conference. On a presentation slide to investors, Maclin compared Chase's fees of $10-12 a month with other consumer fees. The examples he gave included a Netflix streaming subscription ($8), a gym membership ($25) and an online subscription to the New York Times ($15).

Bankers may try to normalize fees by framing them in the same category as other extra services, like movies or magazines. But there is a key difference. While a bank account is a service with a cost, consumers already underwrite it by giving the bank a "loan" in the form of their deposits. If customers are lending the bank their money, why are they also paying fees?

The banking industry has defended its fees, and says the cost of acquiring and maintaining checking account customers is in the hundreds of dollars per person. All big banks have lost billions in revenue following new restrictions over how they can charge make money from overdraft and interchange fees--and that has them eyeing new ways to make money from customers. They are treading carefully though, cautious of igniting another customer backlash like the one that happened last fall with Bank of America's proposed $5 monthly debit-card fee. On Thursday morning the Wall Street Journal reported that Bank of America hasn't given up on charging more fees.

JPMorgan Chase said earlier this week most customers who have less than $100,000 in deposits and investments are not making them any money.

Yet thousands of other smaller banks and credit unions are doing just fine with middle-class customers who have less than one hundred grand in the banks--and they don't need to charge fees to do it. Eighty percent of credit unions offer free checking accounts, according the Credit Union National Association. Other financial institutions reward--not charge--customers for the privilege of using their money, including Perk Street Financial, which offers free debit-card account with 2 percent cash back, and access to more than 40,000 ATMs nationwide. Online bank Ally offers free checking and rebates on ATM fees and ING Direct's checking and saving accounts are popular for higher-than-average interest rates and other fee-free services.

Switching to fee-free bank account can be harder that it seems, however. As reported in Huffington Post last month, some banks including Bank of America, can reopen closed accounts if electronic deposits or charges are made to the account, even by accident.

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cjunkbond
Wearer of Many Hats
12:30 AM on 03/04/2012
Lets see I put my money in the bank and they charge me a fee vice paying me interest. CTFU thats why I've been been w/credit union for over 30 years. ;(
09:09 PM on 03/01/2012
Sure I will pay monthly fees to JP Morgan once they start paying me interest on my checking account at 18.00% p.a. same rate they charge me for use of their credit card.
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Dave F
Former Republican. Liberal = liberty.
02:41 PM on 03/01/2012
People still put money is these "betting with your deposits" institutions? Why? Geez, I went to a credit union, saved on my car loans, saved on checking, and knocked off over 10% on my credit card interest rate.

Oh, and it is service with a smile and a friendly face, not a machine or underpaid teller who hates his/her job while they wait to move up in the bank. Why all people don't move their money to credit unions (if they have the option in their area) is beyond me. It's the best way to free up your own money so you have more of it every month.
12:46 PM on 03/01/2012
Why does it cost "hundreds of dollars" for banks to maintain a checking account? With today's computerization, the cost isn't more than a fraction of a penny per check. Someone is either lying or exaggerating.
01:18 PM on 03/01/2012
I guess you don't see the hundreds of Oracle DBAs, Unix SAs, Network Admins, and application programmers that work on retail systems in the big banks. Their average total cost to the bank is $130K per person in the US, $65K in India. Then there's the cost of the hardware, the networks, the data center real estate.....
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Dave F
Former Republican. Liberal = liberty.
02:34 PM on 03/01/2012
Strange then, that my local credit union can not only process all my payments just as well as the large banks, but charges me less for it.

Why is that?
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majorwood
My micro-bio is empty, just like my wallet
03:31 PM on 03/01/2012
The credit union I use pays me interest on my checking account. If it cost them hundreds of dollars per account to maintain them how can they afford to pay interest?
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Ruyur
I can't believe you like money too. We should h...
01:49 PM on 03/01/2012
Some will point you to the day labor and hardware costs, but we all know its Mahogany Row that generates the biggest expense at banks.
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
10:38 AM on 03/01/2012
1). Move your money to a credit union or smaller bank and away from these large, criminal enterprises like Wells Fargo, JP Morgan/Chase, BofA, etc.

2). Push for a law that prevents closed accounts from being re-opened without permission of the customer.

3). Complain to the new CFPB whenever a bank does something slimy...which might be every day.

4). Tell all of your friends and relatives about your bad experience with banks. There will be plenty to tell.

There huge financial institutions are a real danger to America. We grew as a country when banks were not permitted to gamble our money and where you could look your banker in the eye. Branch banking and the repeal of the Glass-Steagal act were two of the WORST ideas our country ever had. Regulate these criminals!
10:31 AM on 03/01/2012
Wow, did this Todd Maclin from Chase Bank really step in it or what? He really needs to choose his examples a lot better – other than Netflix or a Gym. I believe both of those entities require a membership. Let’s get this statement straight…a monthly fee to have a membership to have the privilege of transacting your money. I have now officially heard it all…or at least until the next rocket scientist in banking opens their mouth. Since when does any consumer need a membership to do their banking? Oh yes, that would be having a relationship with a Credit Union. You see consumers do their banking at JP Morgan Chase, while folks have a financial relationship with a credit union. There are real benefits to credit union membership...you are actually the owner in that case.
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chesscub
Mind of a computer, body of a walrus
09:46 AM on 03/01/2012
Use a credit union. Less headaches and it supports the local economy.
08:57 AM on 03/01/2012
This article is a little misleading. People forget that banks offer a service, and for that service you should expect to pay, whether in the form of keeping large balances or in the form of fees. People don't seem to remember the good ol' days too well. Before the de-regulation of banks there were service fees for almost every transaction. If you wrote a check, you paid a fee. If you made a deposit, you paid a fee. Fact is, it cost money to provide banking service to you. The whole "you give the bank a loan and it offsets the cost of providing a service to you" is only correct if the money you have on deposit is quite substantial. This article doesn't mention the fact that Credit Union's are by definition not for profit and therefore can operate under a whole different business model. Also you smaller regional banks were not included in the Dodd-Frank amendment which limited how much "large" banks could charge merchants on debit card fees, so of course they can continue to offer "free" services. I'm not saying consumers should just suck it up and pay, but at least be educated on the subject, and don't expect entitlement to "free" service. I have banked with Chase for years, and am impressed with their top down leadership and l love the what Chase offers over its competitors, like extended hours, great funds availability, premium online banking, and smart phone banking.
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nevernot
I like paying taxes, they buy me civilization.
09:47 AM on 03/01/2012
So, if I understand you correctly, because my credit union is a non profit and gives me rewards with no fees for my acct it is okay for a bank to charge me fees because they are for-profit? I've never had fees associated with my checking accts, once my bank started charging fees I switched to a credit union so I know it's fully possible for them to be custodians of my cash and make money off of me. It appears the issue isn't that they can't make money, they simply want to make MORE money per costomer. That is not ok, they are allowing pure greed to guide their decisions.
10:38 AM on 03/01/2012
Again i re-iterate, I'm not advocating people just suck it up and pay fees so banks can make money. If you are happy at your Credit Union good for you, as a consumer is is your right. At your credit union you wont receive the same level of service as you would from a large bank like chase. You wont have access to branches nationwide, (or globally). You funds availability will not be as good, branch hours aren't anywhere close et cetera. All I'm saying is that if you expect that level of service then you should expect to pay for it in some form. The idea is to waive the fees based on the way you bank. If you are like me, and use Direct Deposit, then your account is free. I dont think that is too much to ask for all the service I receive.
10:44 AM on 03/01/2012
As for your vandeta against greed, I disagree completely. Its absurd to ask somebody not maximize profit on their product. Its the nature of capitalism and economics. Supply and Demand. Keep in mind they have investors and stockholders to appease. You can't just cut out a major source of revenue (in the form of Dodd-Frank) and expect your shareholders to just say "ok, it was good while it lasted." Get real, any form of regulation ultimately will hurt the consumer more that the business' they are aimed at.
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
10:41 AM on 03/01/2012
A message obviously brought to you by the PR department at Chase. Folks, move your money to a credit union and stop supporting the criminal bankers in the U.S.
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richardwb
Left Coast Calipha Ornia
12:48 AM on 03/01/2012
Chase sux with a capital Sux.
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FogBelter
Illegitimis non carborundum
12:07 AM on 03/01/2012
Okay JP Morgan Chase, this is how it works. Customers put money in your Bank and you then leverage the benefits of those balances though the magic of fractional reserve banking, where through investment you use your customer's money to make more money for the Bank and its Stock Holders. Now, tell me, since customers are already doing you a favor by keeping their money in your banks ... why do they additionally need to pay a membership fee for making you rich?

Is it wiser for your customers to move their money to Banks and Credit Unions that recognize the favor that their customers are doing for them by being depositors and recognize that gouging their clients with a "Membership Fee" isn't the wisest business move? Some might say so.