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Rick Santorum's Frat Brothers Perplexed By Claims Of Cultural Oppression

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First Posted: 03/ 1/2012 12:28 pm Updated: 03/ 5/2012 12:10 pm

David Vondercrone doesn't remember sharing his fraternity house with a besieged conservative student. He remembers his former Penn State frat brother -- and current GOP presidential contender -- Rick Santorum as a regular poker player.

"I played a lot of basketball with him and a lot of poker with him," Vondercrone tells The Huffington Post.

Long before he was a leading presidential candidate who had assumed the identity of a culture warrior, Santorum was just another fraternity brother at Tau Epsilon Phi. "He wasn't so outspoken," Vondercrone says. "It seems to be his identity in the race right now. I didn't think of him as that way ... We talked about sports, our classes."

He says Santorum regularly attended the house's Monday night "low-stakes" poker games that included watching "Monday Night Football." He remembers Santorum smoking cigars. And drinking beer. Santorum was an "all-year" sports fan, Vondercone recalls. He was a Pittsburgh fan whether it was the Pirates or the Steelers.

Sometimes, the fraternity had parties at the house -- 10 or so a year, "full scale with a band," Vondercrone says. Santorum took his turn behind the fraternity's bar and served drinks. He didn't necessarily stand out as either a wall flower or an expert dancer. "I don't remember him having a long-term girlfriend," Vondercrone says. "He was comfortable with women."

The crowd may not have parted when he walked in, but he held his own.

The recollections of Santorum’s fellow fraternity members don’t fit nicely with the image that the former Pennsylvania senator has crafted on the campaign trail. But that may be because the image he has crafted isn’t one strongly shaped by real-life experiences. Santorum is a cultural conservative who didn't spend his formative years in bible study. He’s a fiscal conservative who never served as a budget-conscious, counter-culture battling governor. Currently, he’s been a vocal critic of the so-called liberal, intellectual elite, despite earning a college degree from Penn State, an MBA from the University of Pittsburgh and a law degree from Dickinson School of Law.

On the trail this past week, Santorum went first person with a near memoir-ready pitch about the suffering he endured as a Republican at a land-grant university set in conservative farm country. The '60s had long ended. Political-correctness had yet to become a thing. But to this GOP presidential hopeful, Penn State University, with its old-fashioned football coach, quaint main street and famous ice cream shop, was his Altamont.

On ABC's Sunday morning show "This Week," Santorum defended his recent attack on President Obama in which he called him a "snob" for wanting all Americans to get a college education. Colleges are little more than liberal "indoctrination mills," he said, explaining why Obama would want your child brainwashed in one. This wasn't just the empty rhetoric of an old culture warrior, he offered.

"I’ve gone through it," Santorum explained. "I went through it at Penn State. You talk to most kids who go to college who are conservatives, and you are singled out, you are ridiculed, you are -- I can tell you personally, I know that, you know, we -- I went through a process where I was docked for my conservative views. ”

It's a tale unfamiliar to his fellow fraternity brothers in Tau Epsilon Phi who shared a house with Santorum and joined him for a yearbook photo during his senior year in 1980. In that picture, he looks far from the sweater-vested cultural warrior he has become. He has bushy hair, and a full beard, jeans and sneakers. A pipe is sticking out of his mouth.

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HuffPost interviewed four of Santorum's fraternity brothers, and none recalled any oppression for hot-button views, nor for that matter heated discussions on topics like abortion. The house was neither full of jocks nor preppies. They say he simply fit in.

"He was a good guy and it was a very conservative fraternity,” said fellow brother Randy Fardelmann.

Occasionally, Santorum would wax approvingly on Ronald Reagan's ideas on foreign policy and keeping government out of business. "It wasn't radical thought," Vondercrone says. Reagan was running for president against incumbent President Jimmy Carter during Santorum's final year in undergrad.

HuffPost previously reported that Santorum was a self-identified moderate during his college years, admitting to being pro-choice prior to becoming a politician. That was the case for many Pennsylvania and national Republicans, however, before the party began expunging its moderate wing. Within that ideological landscape, HuffPost also reported that Santorum excelled during his time at Penn State -- rebooting a campus Republican group and interning for then-state Sen. J. Doyle Corman, whom he eventually worked for as the chief of staff.

Santorum was noticed for his ambition.

"I think he was a lot more focused than most of us were," Bruce Elliehausen, 52, says. "I admired him. For a college kid, I thought he was more focused than anybody else I knew."

Tom Fegley saw the same drive. "Mostly what I remember is he seemed to be very committed to what he was doing and seemed to have this path he was on," Fegley explains, adding that he remembers Santorum as a guy who "definitely seemed to have a plan in mind."

Early this week,The New Republic interviewed Bob O'Connor, one of Santorum's old political science professors who taught Santorum in four different classes. O'Connor objected to Santorum's persecution charge. "He really has a rich fantasy life," O'Connor told TNR in an email. "PSU in the 1970s was not exactly Berkeley. I resent this sort of accusation [that] I and my colleagues graded students on the basis of their political attitudes. Ridiculous.”

Santorum's fraternity brothers were fairly shocked by their friend's assertions.

Was there any kind of oppression at the frat house? "Not the group that I hung with," Elliehausen says.

"I wasn't aware of any oppression of any sort," Vondercrone says. "He seemed like a happy guy."

Santorum's campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

HuffPost readers: Did you know Rick Santorum in college? Were you a member of his fraternity? We'd love to hear from you. Tell us your stories by emailing jason.cherkis@huffingtonpost.com. Please include your phone number if you're willing to do an interview.

CORRECTION: Due to an editing error, an earlier version of this article stated that Rick Santorum earned a law degree from Dickinson School of Law at Penn State. Dickinson School of Law became part of Penn State after Santorum received his degree.

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David Vondercrone doesn't remember sharing his fraternity house with a besieged conservative student. He remembers his former Penn State frat brother -- and current GOP presidential contender -- Rick ...
David Vondercrone doesn't remember sharing his fraternity house with a besieged conservative student. He remembers his former Penn State frat brother -- and current GOP presidential contender -- Rick ...
 
 
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Bronxdude 02:34 PM on 03/01/2012
By choosing to validate and advance racial stereotypes propagated by Fox News, as an act of desperation to win favor among Birthers and segregationists, Santorum has chosen to crawl into the gutter and use the same exploitive “southern strategy” George Wallace and Ronald Reagan employed to scare Whites into blindly embracing falsehoods about Blacks. Of the more than 45 million Americans getting food  Read More...
10:22 AM on 03/24/2012
Which one of them is Rick Santorum?
http://pokerfreaks.net/
03:42 PM on 03/07/2012
We all know that Santorum is a strange cat.
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Dmpolis
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12:49 PM on 03/05/2012
Rick, I just gave you 20 minutes of my limited time to listen the the load of carp you just unloaded. Your attitude about life is rather from a limited point of view and as such you are so out of touch with the realitites of life I wonder how you can even think of running. Your statement on rape that made headlines a while ago really made you a very unlikely person to be president. Your attitude about marriage and gays and a whole host of other things has made you unfit for duty. Religion has no place in the public school system or in this government and you have no answers for todays problems.
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Ramon Moreno
Read below.
11:32 AM on 03/04/2012
I thought this guy was around my age, but apparently he was in college in the 1960's.
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momgrandmother
12:19 AM on 03/04/2012
So when are the reporters going to tell us about Obama's past and college friends, etc.? This is ridiculous hear say piece. Meant to deceive the readers. What happened to good journalism with presentation of facts? Of course some people will believe every thing printed here and that is what is wrong in this country. We've been sold out.
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Steve Brewer II
Proud LGBT member and Liberal
03:43 AM on 03/04/2012
It is been covered over and over again. The President was born here, is an US Citizen. If anything we have been mislead by Faux news outlets like Fox News, not Huffingtonpost.
08:47 AM on 03/04/2012
Um I think the article was meant to revealing from his frat house brothers. As I read it the brothers were really not to concerned with with him other than he was a nice guy that seemed to get along with everybody. They thought he was a driven by goals.

What facts are you looking for? Grades, student body card, transcript? What facts would make this a better article for you?
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momgrandmother
01:49 PM on 03/04/2012
The article is trying to make Rick Santorum out to be a hypocrite and a lying and it is done intentional to sway the reader. I am tired of the MSM including newspapers spinning out innuendos and misleading readers. We are now living in a propaganda state. I for one refuse to be misled. And no I don't listen to Rush, Levin, or Fox. I look for the facts myself and I read through the bull to get to the facts. Bull on both sides I might add.
anne1stoftwo
American Woman
11:57 PM on 03/03/2012
The only concerns of Santorum are reproductive iusses with women, birth control pills and planned parenthood and where a gay man has sex. He is shallow and he lies about everything Shocked? Not even a little bit. I take him as the woman hater that he is, nothing more.
10:34 PM on 03/03/2012
That's Santorum/?? (far right - of course). He makes the other guys look like his bitches in this photo.
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Ramon Moreno
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11:14 AM on 03/04/2012
You could be on to something.
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TimRivers
Former Conservative; Now Progressive
09:24 PM on 03/03/2012
In other words, he's making it all up and saying whatever he wants to whomever is listening, in order to get the nomination. Just what we need in a President - the lowest common denominator! Pass!
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momgrandmother
12:20 AM on 03/04/2012
No the huffington post is spreading hear say and conjecture instead of facts.
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Steve Brewer II
Proud LGBT member and Liberal
03:41 AM on 03/04/2012
No that is Faux Noise and they seem to have you hooked.
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Ramon Moreno
Read below.
11:15 AM on 03/04/2012
The bible has neither photographic evidence nor verifiable eye-witness accounts, but I bet you believe it.
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gmcinahuff
PREVENTION IS KEY.
08:58 PM on 03/03/2012
Is that the Rick Hefner pose?
07:45 PM on 03/03/2012
There you go, just making it up as you go along. Nothing like a nice fairy tale, is there Ricky? Liar.
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katie2673
Faux News: When facts don't matter.
04:51 PM on 03/03/2012
Another one of Ricky's lies comes home to roost.
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pbeat
Use common sense
04:32 PM on 03/03/2012
Is it true that Rick never had a girlfriend in college and that his virgin wife was the first and last partner ever? That leads me to the question of why is he is so obsessed with gay men and "santorum?"
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momgrandmother
12:21 AM on 03/04/2012
he's not the media is. They are feeding you propaganda as the "establishment' slowly erodes your rights.
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Steve Brewer II
Proud LGBT member and Liberal
03:30 AM on 03/04/2012
That is the exact reason I do not follow the propaganda puppet theater that is Fox News and go with actual news outlets like Huffingtonpost.
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me the z
This is not the micro-bio you are looking for
04:18 PM on 03/04/2012
Your comment is hysterical after reading all of your comments.
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JoeQPublic for President
04:18 PM on 03/03/2012
Fascist, corporate, packaged, hate and marginalization, religion, money and 2016...and what do you get?
ONE PARTY! ONE NATION! UNITED WE STAND! USA! USA! USA!
Santorum/West! NDAA 2012 and camp beatings from "Pro American" gangs like Henry Ford got used to run in Detroit, beating and killing auto aorkers. (Ford got a medal from Adolf Hitler in 1938 on Ford's 75th birthday for that). Santorum and Allen West (alleged military interrogation terrorist)
Perfect in 2016, for making 2012 look like the introduction to the "Security State." Romney is defeated in 2012 and the GOP brings the fascists to bloom in 2016.
http://www.JustBelieve2012.com
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2lib4oh
03:55 PM on 03/03/2012
Santorum is trying to create sympathy from those who saw themselves as outcasts for their opinions and attacked by the bad, bad, Liberals who love to attack conservatives.
Reagan did this.Bush did this. Same old same old.
What is Santorum's plan for creating jobs? Does anybody know?
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Ramon Moreno
Read below.
11:18 AM on 03/04/2012
He's trying to create a job for himself - that's a start...
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Ed whowannaknow
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12:43 PM on 03/03/2012
Santorum must have hit his head and suffered brain damage after Penn State. Poor thing.