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First Posted: 03/ 5/2012 4:50 pm Updated: 03/ 5/2012 6:58 pm


By Angela Moon and Doris Frankel

(Reuters) - The world's most valuable company has turned into a bit of a casino stock.

Since Apple Inc on February 29 became only the sixth company in U.S. history to top $500 billion in market capitalization, trading has become more volatile, indicating that more investors are tracking headlines and looking for quick gains.

Apple has gained 32 percent since the beginning of the year, outstripping its gains for all of 2011. It accounts for more than 4 percent of the weight of the S&P 500 index, a kind of outsized standing that has caused its moves to dictate market direction on a daily basis.

That's a trend that is causing consternation among some players in the market. They note that other companies that had become members of the elite $500 billion club not only couldn't sustain their standing, but weighed on the entire market as they fell.

For long-term investors, the stock of the iPad and iPod maker has been a winner, the ultimate in buying and holding. From a short-term basis, buyers have gotten much more fickle.

"Apple has become a favorite daytime trading stock for short-term traders. It's one of the rare stocks that have momentum followers and that move on headlines that are not related to earnings," said David Rolfe, chief investment officer at Wedgewood Partners in St. Louis, Missouri. The firm manages $1.5 billion in assets and owns Apple shares.

Intraday swings in Apple are at the most volatile levels since October last year. The swings have averaged around $12 a day for the past two weeks, compared with about $14 in October.

On Monday, Apple shares plunged 3.1 percent in about 10 minutes around 11 a.m., which pushed the company's market cap below that $500 billion threshold. Trading volume spiked during the drop to almost 3.8 million shares, the heaviest 10 minutes of turnover since February 15, when the stock's shift in direction pulled the market with it.

Apple shares typically run up in the days ahead of a major product launch, but the shares have gained sharply this year, in part on anticipation over a new generation of its popular iPad tablet.

The new iPad 3 - which is expected to offer a better screen, camera, processor and 4G wireless capabilities for the same price - is to be unveiled on Wednesday. Any major disappointment may weigh on the shares.

For Apple, a share price of $537.54 marks the level that pushes it above a market cap of $500 billion.

There are concerns that Apple, because of its size, will start to hurt the overall market should the euphoric trading that pushed it to a record high of $548.21 on March 1 subside.

"We used to say 'if GE goes, then the whole country goes.' Now we say 'if Apple goes, the whole country goes,'" Rolfe said.

Apple joins only a handful of companies - Microsoft, Exxon Mobil Corp, Cisco, Intel and General Electric - that have crossed the $500 billion mark. None of those other stocks was able to sustain that value.

"How the others - and equities in general - performed after hitting that threshold wasn't good," Jason Goepfert, president of SentimenTrader.com, said in a report last week.

As Apple shares dipped on Monday, activity in the options market picked up, ranging from investors hedging their long positions in the stock to betting on a rebound.

"Short-term implied volatility for weekly options that expire this Friday jumped more than 10 percent as nervous investors bought options to hedge positions," said Tim Biggam, options strategist at options trading firm TradingBlock in Chicago. Implied volatility measures the expected magnitude of share price movement conveyed by option prices.

"There was a mad rush for out-of-the money puts mostly congregated in the $520 to $530 range expiring this Friday and on March 16 for standard one-month options," he said.

Despite the high price, Apple look like a value stock. It trades at 15 times earnings, close to the 14 earnings multiple of the broad S&P 500 index, even though its earnings per share grew nearly 83 percent last year, nearly four times that of the broad index.

In February, Apple shares have moved than 1 percent up or down on a single day in 12 sessions.

(Reporting By Angela Moon; Editing by Leslie Adler)

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05:48 PM on 03/06/2012
Investing in Apole stock is one thing. "Trading" Apple stock is dangerous and should be avoided by everyone who is not a professional stock trader. Leveraging Apple stock (buying on margin or using any other technique to get more shares for your money) is even more perilous.

Amateurs who engage in this kind of stock market activity are basically baby seals being lead to the slaughter by great white sharks.
05:48 PM on 03/06/2012
All the suckers are in, there's no place for Apple to go but down.
08:29 PM on 03/06/2012
Incredible insight. Going to call my broker tomorrow, tell him to sell, sell, sell. Sell it all!!!!!
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SimonFromSydney
08:50 PM on 03/06/2012
actually that would be pretty smart.
Apple only has the iPhone and iPad, they have no more innovation or leadership now that steve has left.
give it about 12-24 months before the investors start realising this and start selling their stock.
People will get bored of these "new" devices, as they're only upgrades now, not something innovative... will move on.

my suggestion, sell your stock now before it starts to crash.
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jgeurian21
11:40 AM on 03/06/2012
I generally stay away from high risk stocks, like Apple. My only problem is that 75%+ of their business is built on 1 product: a cellphone. Apple is becoming vastly un-diversified, unlike other tech companies like IBM or Microsoft. The problem with keying your entire business off of one product is that any negative actions can sink you if the market changes and it has happened countless times. Heck I remember when Corel controlled word processing. Instead of diversifying into other areas they doubled down and 10 years later were bankrupt. Smart phone growth is huge now, but I wonder in 10 years when everyone has them if Apple will be right back to where they were before the the iPhone. Sort of like netbook manufactures today.
01:19 PM on 03/06/2012
The future of their business is the iCloud and Apple TV. iPods, iPads and other devices will be profitable devices, but will also be portals for access to what will be the real money-maker for Apple: content delivery and iCloud computing.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/apple-tv-dream-revealed-embarrass-hardware-makers-stiff-140040754.html
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03:12 PM on 03/06/2012
yeah that Microsoft was a real winner in the 2000's.
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jgeurian21
04:55 PM on 03/06/2012
If you only look at stock price no, but of course, no one would ever do that. Probably the fact that MS has had record profits every quarter for years now. Not counting selling the fastest selling electronic device in history which is something not even Apple can claim.
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06:50 AM on 03/06/2012
Here's just one reason why Apple still has a long way to go..UP!

http://www.asymco.com/2012/03/05/segmenting-the-iphone-opportunity/
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writersbloc
04:09 AM on 03/06/2012
Oh this development couldn't possibly end badly, not when captains of industry and financial prognosticators are involved. If only there were some institution that could but the brakes on something so baleful, an institution where there are elected officials accountable to the people. If only.
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kinogod
word farmer
02:33 AM on 03/06/2012
Go long, sleep well, think of other things -- or study trends and think you can play the house.
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Ponderus
Enriched with lanolin.
12:13 AM on 03/06/2012
This is where casino capitalism

destroys Apple.
12:40 AM on 03/06/2012
Can you describe a scenario where this plays out?

Public companies usually are a part of the market in order to raise investment for R&D, but Apple has no debt and years of operating costs in the bank. Even if the stock went down to the liquidation value of cash in the bank, facilities and intellectual property (it would never go lower because it would be arbitraged up), they could continue doing what they are doing because their revenues are greater than their expenses.

Apple is completely disconnected from Wall St., the markets merely provide additional compensation for employees at this point.
05:51 PM on 03/06/2012
"Trading" Apple shares has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with whether or not Apple has enough cash on hand to continue in business for years regardless of the price fluctuations of its stock price.
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byronic
04:16 AM on 03/06/2012
Actually it makes absolutely no difference to Apple - they won't be going to the market to raise cash any time soon, so why should they care what happens to their share price? Apple investors may care, but Apple itself couldn't care less...
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06:24 AM on 03/06/2012
All the big guys at Apple either own buckets of the stock or buckets of options to buy more.
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amajamus
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11:49 PM on 03/05/2012
One thing I notice on this thread, and it is a really short thread compared to other apple related threads is that there are no fanboys on here that you can talk sensible to. When you use numbers and historical data and a sensible tone all you get in return is 6th grade remarks. If there are any sensible fanboys on this thread that can give a sensible argument and take a sensible rebuttal please show your self. Granted there are some 6th grade level replies against apple but when I try to be professional all I get is 6th grade responses. I am quite knowledgeable in this field because I am finishing up my masters in finance markets and economics and work in an investment banker field.
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writersbloc
04:17 AM on 03/06/2012
You had me until MA in financial markets and Econ. I have an MA in policy and am on my way to a PhD. If there's one thing I've learned, there are always new errors to be made, and old errors to repeat. I mean if Greenspan who has an MA and PhD from NYU can revisit his assumptions at his age, then anything's possible and none are above reproach. Mind you it took a near collapse to get his attention. Economists can be as dogmatic as any religious zealot so tread with care young master; just my 2 bits on the matter.
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06:38 AM on 03/06/2012
If you want the straight truth on Apple follow Horace Dediu at Asymco.
NO stock analyst is as accurate in his projections as HD.
http://www.asymco.com/2012/01/24/apple-added-38-billion-in-cash-last-year/

Assuming Apple has yet another product that will totally upend yet another industry, (Admittedly a large assumption. But there are several in dire need of Apple's deft touch at simplicity. Automotive for instance.) and that the iPhone and iPad are still relatively new products in most of the world, especially China, it is not unreasonable to think that Apple will double in value yet again in the next 5 years and become a $1 trillion company. Apple is projected to sell over 100 million iPads in 2012. Most analysts not named Horace thought the iPad would not amount to very much when it was launched 2 years ago. It didn't have Flash after all!
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11:42 PM on 03/05/2012
The real question is, how much real money is in the kitty? Is there really 50 billion and the company has a market capital of 500 billion. When the bubble breaks or there is a stock market correction, or all exports are halted from China a lot of people are going to lose a bunch of money.
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Amalek
Highly decorated HP warrior
11:58 PM on 03/05/2012
You seriously think they are lying about the cash on the balance sheet, and they have fooled the auditors?

You seriously think that all exports will be halted from China?

Do you also think the world ends on December 21. 2012?
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amajamus
Occupy James ! ! !
12:01 AM on 03/06/2012
I thought it was December 12th.
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MichaelMcKLA
I'm moving to Pandora.
12:24 AM on 03/06/2012
I finally have an excuse for not buying Christmas presents this year. :)
11:38 PM on 03/05/2012
I do hope that many Apple stock holders will believe those people who are writing in to say that Apple is a "bubble stock". And I hope that a lot of those believers in the Apple bubble will take the opportunity to sell their stock. As soon as the AAPL shares reach a nice low, I will be among those non-believers who buy some more Apple stock. I'm watching and waiting. Go Apple Bubble myth!
11:50 PM on 03/05/2012
If you are only buying shares that make money when they go up, you're missing out on half the profits! ;-)
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RudyHaugeneder
11:26 PM on 03/05/2012
Adam and Eve bit the original Apple. This time the snake is Wall Street.
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10:54 PM on 03/05/2012
Apple will be the first $1 Trillion dollar company and will get there in less than 5 years.

Those calling this a bubble have not been paying attention.

The only question is which industry will Apple disrupt next?
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allwarisbad
11:32 PM on 03/05/2012
Apple only operates in the "high-net-worth" market, so take your pick, handbags or personal-jets :)
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11:38 PM on 03/05/2012
Huh?
How is a $500 iPad like a personal jet?
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Amalek
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11:59 PM on 03/05/2012
Tell that to every teenager with an IPOD and an iTunes account.
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Barbarian At The Gate
Fortune favors the bold.
02:28 PM on 03/06/2012
That is a really bold statement. here are just some facts:

Only 4 other companies have breached the $500 billion market cap before: Microsoft, Cisco, Exxon, and GE.

"The half trillion dollar value is higher than the gross domestic products (GDP) of Saudi Arabia, Poland, Sweden, Belgium, or Taiwan."

Currently no other company in the world has a market cap greater than $500 billion.

http://www.intheworldnews.com/apple-stocks-hits-500-a-share-company-tops-500-billion-mark/342300/
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02:44 PM on 03/06/2012
I know.
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03:18 PM on 03/06/2012
Look at it this way.
Apple got to 1/2 Trillion in the worst global economy since the 1930's and without much in the way of sales in China.
http://www.asymco.com/2012/03/05/segmenting-the-iphone-opportunity/
In the next 5 Years China will not just be open to Apple but all market research indicates it's the most popular tech brand there by far. (They are not all that excited in stuff from Korea.)
Then of course the global economy is recovering.
Add another industry disrupting technology and boom Apple continues to expand.
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waldopepper
I'd tell you all about me if you were my friend.
10:53 PM on 03/05/2012
It had to happen with the passing of the cult of personality that was Mr. Jobs.
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06:43 AM on 03/06/2012
You obviously were not paying attention.
Jobs was Deathly Ill with terminal cancer for years.
Clearly the people he assembled to run the company are corporate all-stars.
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waldopepper
I'd tell you all about me if you were my friend.
12:23 PM on 03/06/2012
So that must mean that you think that he was too ill to provide meaningful influence while he was there in his last years.

Apple will do worse, much worse now that he is gone. To continue to stick my neck out, I do not think that this was because Jobs was all that much of a genius, but merely he had that image. And the market bought into that image.
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10:49 PM on 03/05/2012
I had two geezers try and pitch apple stock to me the other week -- both said exactly the same thing -- "If you want a teenager to have a meltdown, buy them an android instead of the iPad".

Coincidence? Maybe but I see a lot of teens using Android phones and tablets and they seem to be okay with it. Having two people echo the same line, neither of whom actually owned the product, was disconcerting.
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allwarisbad
11:33 PM on 03/05/2012
The Apple "meltdown" is coming soon :)
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Barbarian At The Gate
Fortune favors the bold.
02:15 PM on 03/06/2012
Some of those guys read off of prepared scripts and use canned rebuttals they memorized off of index flash cards.
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hazbro24
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro- HST
10:40 PM on 03/05/2012
$14 swing on a $500+ share is nothing. But the stock is over bought.

Their cash reserves? Sitting overseas, waiting to get taxed.

Their pad 3 is going into bloatware territory. The ride is over.
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10:47 PM on 03/05/2012
"Their pad 3 is going into bloatware territory."

What does that mean?
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allwarisbad
11:34 PM on 03/05/2012
not much new there...
10:48 PM on 03/05/2012
I thought bloatware was the crippled commercial software that comes preloaded on your machine, hoping you might try it and want to upgrade to the full-price version?

Does the iPad come with those kinds of applications? My iPhone came from the factory with nothing on it except the standard Apple apps. Please do tell what bloatware you've seen on iPad! That's kind of scary if true.
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allwarisbad
11:37 PM on 03/05/2012
By bloatware he means that model 3 is just a bloated version of the previous model ...