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Netflix, Cable Partnership Could Make Streaming Service Into On-Demand Option

Netflix Cable Partnership

First Posted: 03/06/2012 5:58 pm EST Updated: 05/06/2012 6:12 am EDT


(Corrects date in dateline to March 6)

* Netflix could be offered as new on-demand option

* Could start out as a cable billing partnership

* First cable partnership could be tested by year-end

By Yinka Adegoke and Lisa Richwine

March 6 (Reuters) - Netflix Chief Executive Reed Hastings has quietly met with some of the largest U.S. cable companies in recent weeks to discuss adding the online movie streaming service to their cable offerings, according to sources familiar with matter.

In what would ratchet up its competition with HBO, the talks could lead to Netflix becoming available as another on-demand option for cable subscribers through their set-top boxes, according to three people familiar with the talks. If a partnership came to fruition, a cable operator might offer Netflix as an additional option added onto a subscriber's cable bill, according to a fourth person.

Any partnership would be a major about-face for many in the traditional cable industry who had initially seen Netflix as a threat to their $100 billion-a-year business.

Hastings has strongly hinted at investor conferences in recent weeks about the possibility of Netflix one day being a cable channel rival to premium networks like Time Warner Inc's HBO.

"It's not in the short term, but it's in the natural direction for us in the long term," said Hastings, speaking at an investor conference last week. "Many (cable service providers) would like to have a competitor to HBO, and they would bid us off of HBO."

While most industry watchers considered Hastings' comments as little more than thoughts about the future, people familiar with the talks said he has already met with senior cable executives to discuss how such a partnership might work. At least one cable operator could experiment with offering Netflix by the end of the year, said one of the people.

A Netflix representative declined comment on any talks with cable operators.

While Netflix offers mainly old TV shows and movies through its Web streaming service, it had been seen as a threat by some cable operators and cable networks worried the $7.99 a month service would lead to customers dropping the much more expensive cable TV package, a fear that has become known in the industry as "cord cutting."

Time Warner Inc Chief Executive Jeff Bewkes famously dismissed the idea that Netflix was a serious threat by equating the service to the "Albanian Army." More recently, however, Bewkes and other media chiefs, including Viacom's Philippe Dauman, have been much more positive about Netflix, in part because the service has boosted their coffers by licensing older shows.

Comcast Corp, the largest U.S. cable operator, last month launched its own online video service for subscribers called Streampix that is supposed to be its answer to Netflix. Comcast executives say they will do everything they can to keep subscribers watching video through its own systems.

Netflix also faces more competition from incumbents including Verizon Communications' joint venture with Coinstar Inc's Redbox due later this year.

There are also significant plans still in the works at Google Inc, Apple Inc and Amazon.com Inc in the online video space.

Even if a deal is reached in the near-term, actually receiving Netflix through a cable provider could still take months to launch. Hastings would first need to rework his licensing deals with programmers since most existing contracts will not allow Netflix to deliver their shows on a cable box, according to a senior programming executive.

Offering Netflix through a cable package could help the streaming service avoid a separate potential clash with cable operators over rising costs for online video traffic over their Internet pipes. Cable operators are the dominant high speed Internet providers in the U.S. and have been trying to devise methods to manage their costs and traffic of online video.

Time Warner Cable is the first major cable company to stick its neck out with a trial in Texas to charge users for the amount of bandwidth they use. Online video is commonly acknowledged as the heaviest share of Internet traffic. (Reporting By Yinka Adegoke in New York and Lisa Richwine in Los Angeles; Editing Peter Lauria and; Tim Dobbyn)

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Killermolls44
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05:33 AM on 03/08/2012
Stop messing with it unless you plan to add more stuff, as in movies and tv shows. That's it.
06:27 PM on 03/07/2012
Screw this. I'm out of Netflix. I'll stick with amazon.com and OnDemand for videos. It was a 10 year run, but I'm tired of people screwing with success.
NOSOCIALNETS
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06:08 PM on 03/07/2012
Just what America needs, higher cable bills.

How about a la carte pricing? You pay or what you consume? ESPN costs a huge amount each month. Even if you are not a sports fan you pay because it is in your "bundle.
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02:42 PM on 03/07/2012
Getting in bed with cable companies will be the last straw for me.

Cable is the reason I am on netflix. We are not far from netflix offering HBO or Showtime for extra money, which will kill what made this company special in my eyes. I hate to say it cause I've been trying to be in NF corner but their time in the sun is almost up.

Back to broadcast and watching stuff on line.
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ILoveGreatDanes
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02:13 PM on 03/07/2012
Reed Hastings seemed to understand the company just fine prior to 2011. Then, he either got greedy, or he got divorced, or a substance abuse problem, who knows? Anyways, I bet Netflix will be #1 on the list of companies in business textbooks of how the CEO broke what isn't broken in five years.
02:12 PM on 03/07/2012
Hastings might be a fool but my $10 streaming netflix service is still a whole lot less of a hassle than comcrap. I don't have to deal with commercials, service outages or idiot ever. But I guess if you compare anything to a pile of poop (comcast) then it'll always look good.
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ILoveGreatDanes
If you can read this,my cloaking device is broken.
08:02 PM on 03/07/2012
Every cable company is better than Comcast. Comcast is the bottom of the barrel. I have UVerse, and they've treated me great since Day 1. I've had them 6 years, and I don't regret it.
07:56 AM on 03/20/2012
Yeah, being the largest and most profitable company usually does put you at the bottom of the barrel... You are aware Uverse STOPPED their roll out right? Doing something "right" isnt really in their business model, glad your having a good run with them however.
01:36 PM on 03/07/2012
by leaps and bounds, netflix has outgrown reed hastings' ability to lead its future.

hastings fails at every new juncture to bring the company forward and create a better experience for its "paying customers."

loyal customers with more patience, and who still subscribe, see the car crash(s) farther in the horizon than hastings. hastings HABITUALLY downplays the importance of the resounding cries and reverberations of netflix customers. if he would have listened when he doubled subscription price - off the heals of an increase, and when he tried to split the company into two websites (stupidity), he wouldn't be on bended knee to the cable ceos, who his customers stampede from.

netflix languishes and long lost its edge - it use to be fun to select movies for our queues - now its dull and tarnished with ever more movies disappearing weekly. the website is horribly presented - takes 10 times longer to select second rate movies now than before, etc., etc., and etc.

we customers, who remain, have too long been in a holding pattern, waiting for a better experience. Apple comes out with an entire new manufactured device upgrade more often than hastings has been able to deliver a better netflix experience.

perhaps its not the content cost that is slowly strangling netflix, i believe its the negotiator and his failing team of blind and deaf executives.

memo to: netflix boardmembers: listen to your customers - HASTINGS MUST GO ALONG WITH HIS FAILED IVORY TOWER EXECUTIVES!!
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John Genryu
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08:38 AM on 03/11/2012
"hastings fails at every new juncture to bring the company forward and create a better experience for its "paying customers." Well said. The ignorance of Hastings et al is simply astonishing. It almost seems like he's hell bent on destroying Netflix single handedly. People have been leaving cable and satellite in droves because of the cost and too many commercials and he still just does not get it.
01:21 PM on 03/07/2012
For the hearing impaired, Netflix streaming has been a bust,since only the foreign language films have subtitles. I canceled my steaming Netflix for that reason.
For the same reason, ROKU and its other choices, are useless for me, because I depend 80% on subtitles to follow a film dialogue.
What fraction of viewers are thus kept from using these steaming services? Especially the elderly, who likely spend more time with a TV.
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too young but old enough
I already know how this is going to turn out...
01:52 PM on 03/07/2012
The elderly are more likely to spend more time with a TV, but less likely to acquire their programming via streaming.
06:29 PM on 03/07/2012
Every streaming movie I've watched on Netflix, even documentaries, have been cc the past few weeks.
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cliff53
01:08 PM on 03/07/2012
The cable and satellite companies charges for HD, and I get it free with my HD indoor antenna.
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Skygazer
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01:06 PM on 03/07/2012
Why is Hastings so tone deaf and clueless?? He should resign, but I get the feeling that Netflix knows they're sitting on massive untapped reserves of income thanks to it's massive customer base, but they keep coming up with bad questionable ideas.

Yeah, he needs to resign.
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DeathSquad
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12:44 PM on 03/07/2012
So as we move into a world of more and more web-ready TVs and mobile devices Netflix wants to add a cable provider as a middleman to their service? That makes no sense. What would be the benefit of the subscription cost being routed through a cable provider instead of just paid directly to Netflix?
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12:53 PM on 03/07/2012
I think this makes a lot of sense for the cable companies and I wonder if the article has this backward and it's really the cable companies pursuing Netflix.
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Skygazer
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12:43 PM on 03/07/2012
The copyright infringement issues here are dense and complicated...I am pretty sure the licence Netflix obtains for streaming DVD's would in no way allow rebroadcast on cable.

Hurts my head to think about this morass. Netflix just keeps messing with it's customers and treating them like it owns them...
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Arn Arn
12:42 PM on 03/07/2012
Another incredibly stupid move by Hastings. Incorporating Netflix into cable TV isn't even logical. People dumped cable for Netflix. But this company isn't known for making wise decisions.
NOSOCIALNETS
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06:10 PM on 03/07/2012
Exactly.
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ReignSupreme
12:30 PM on 03/07/2012
Thank god I only watch the local news. That helps me save about what... $70 a month.
12:27 PM on 03/07/2012
I cut the cord with cable and ditched the dish a long time ago. We went totally rabbit ear terrestrial and relied on dvds and are now loving the heck out of Netflix...if they mess with our service we'll ditch them too.
Cable was supposed to be the 'alternative' to terrestrial broadcast TV but has turned (and so has dish) into 240 channels of crap of which half are infomercials after 9pm. And they want HOW much every month for that? Screw 'em.
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henriette and hube
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12:43 PM on 03/07/2012
Same here.I love my one at a time DVD service and that's all I want. I can get PBS with my rabbit ears and I'm happy. Cannot stand American TV.
fanned for opting out of cable......
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Skygazer
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12:59 PM on 03/07/2012
PBS is the best. Fanned/Faved.
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John Genryu
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08:40 AM on 03/11/2012
You might want to look at streaming UK TV. I watch it live in the US, for free, and have not missed cable and crapalite at all.
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Razzer
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12:48 PM on 03/07/2012
New fan, for this and your other musings.