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Robert Bales, Accused Soldier In Afghanistan Shootings, Sympathetic Figure To Some Americans

Robert Bales Afghanistan

First Posted: 03/18/2012 5:56 pm Updated: 03/18/2012 6:17 pm

He is accused of the kind of crime that makes people shiver, the killing of families in their own homes under cover of night, the butchery of defenseless children. Under normal circumstances, Americans would dismiss such an act as worthy of only one response: swift and merciless punishment.

Not so in the case of Robert Bales — at least, not for some Americans.

So far, many seem willing to believe that a 10-year U.S. military veteran, worn down by four tours of combat and perhaps suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, simply snapped. That somehow there must be, if not an excuse, at least an explanation.

Exactly what set off the Army sergeant accused of massacring 16 civilians in Afghanistan's Kandahar Province is far from clear. But already, organizations and individuals with differing agendas have portrayed Bales as the personification of something that is profoundly broken, and have seized on his case to question the war itself or to argue that the American government is asking too much of its warriors.

On the website of Iraq Veterans Against the War, organizer Aaron Hughes declared that Afghan war veterans "believe that this incident is not a case of one 'bad apple' but the effect of a continued U.S. military policy of drone strikes, night raids, and helicopter attacks where Afghan civilians pay the price." Those veterans, he wrote, "hope that the Kandahar massacre will be a turning point" in the war.

"Send a letter to the editor of your local paper condemning the massacre and calling for an end to our occupation in Afghanistan," Hughes wrote.

On March 11, authorities say, Bales, a 38-year-old married father of two from Washington state, stalked through two villages, gunned down civilians and attempted to burn some of the bodies. The dead included nine children.

In Lake Tapps, Wash., neighbors knew Bales as a patriot, a friendly guy who loved his wife and kids, and a man who never complained about the sacrifices his country repeatedly asked of him. They find it hard to believe he could be capable of such depravity.

"I kind of sympathize for him, being gone, being sent over there four times," said Beau Britt, who lives across the street. "I can understand he's probably quite wracked mentally, so I just hope that things are justified in court. I hope it goes OK."

Paul Wohlberg, who lives next door to the Baleses, said: "I just can't believe Bob's the guy who did this. A good guy got put in the wrong place at the wrong time."

Talk like that infuriates Fred Wellman, a retired Army lieutenant colonel from Fredericksburg, Va., who did three tours in Iraq. He said comments like those of Bales' neighbors and his attorney simply feed into the notion of "the broken veteran."

Wellman does not deny that 10 years of war have severely strained the service. But while others might see Bales as a wounded soul, Wellman sees a man who sneaked off base to commit his alleged crimes, then had the presence of mind to "lawyer up" as soon as he was caught.

"That may play well with certain circles of the civilian community, which doesn't understand our lives," Wellman said. "But he's going to be tried by a military court ... and chances are three or four of those guys had things happen to them, may have had three or four tours, may have lost people, may have been blown up. And NONE of them snapped and killed 16 people." He added: "It's just too easy, and a lot of us, we're not buying it."

Benjamin Busch, a Marine veteran of two tours of Iraq, wrote last week on the website The Daily Beast that he and his comrades are afraid to admit that Bales "lost his mind in war," because that "allows for the possibility that any one of us could go insane at any time, and that every veteran poisoned by their combat experience could be on edge for life."

James Alan Fox, an expert on murder, said Americans can more easily make excuses for Bales because the shootings did not occur here at home.

"Although the victims weren't soldiers or the enemy, they were civilians, many Americans ... literally distance themselves from this case, because it's so far away in a foreign land," said Fox, a professor at Boston's Northeastern University. "It's still mass murder, yet many Americans sort of perceive it differently because it is related to a military situation, as opposed to a private citizen who's murdering other private citizens."

Even some fellow warriors who deplore Bales' alleged acts suggest he should not bear all the blame.

Reacting to a New York Daily News headline labeling the then-unidentified suspect "Sergeant Psycho," Ron Capps wrote an angry piece on Time magazine's blog site.

"To our elected officials and the people who elected them: this is what you get when you refuse to do what is necessary to create and maintain sufficient military force to fight your wars," wrote Capps, who described himself as a 25-year veteran who did a combat tour in Afghanistan.

"This means everything necessary up to and including the implementation of a draft. ... The all-volunteer Army was designed as a peacetime force. It was never supposed to carry us through 10 years of war."

The killings sent Thomas L. Amerson, a retired Navy captain from Ledyard, Conn., back to the history books to explore other stains on America's military history, including the 1968 massacre of Vietnamese civilians at the village of My Lai. Too often, he argued, Americans absolve the leaders who start the wars and "invest the full responsibility in the combatants themselves and the families that support them."

"These actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have been more than a clash of combatants; they have been a clash of cultures, ideologies, and religions that has blurred the lines of right and wrong," Amerson wrote in an email to The Associated Press.

Amerson asked that Americans "hope for the safety of Sgt. Bales' family and for the ability of his wife and small children to reconcile the person they knew with the one they now face. May they be successful in un-blurring lines that society and courts will, no doubt, fail to distinguish satisfactorily."

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Associated Press writer Gene Johnson in Seattle contributed to this report.

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He is accused of the kind of crime that makes people shiver, the killing of families in their own homes under cover of night, the butchery of defenseless children. Under normal circumstances, American...
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03:18 AM on 03/24/2012
How many deployments did he serve? I think it was four or five, there is no way that this guy should have been sent to Afghanistan, as his histroy has been self evident. Blame the sob's that sent him in harms way. Use them up spit them out, wakeup! The elite hate you, so much excess population.
03:58 AM on 03/20/2012
"Mercy leans against it's favorite bombardment and forgives the bomb" William Carlos Williams (I believe.)
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haleejr73
Don't believe me. Prove it to yourself.
11:16 PM on 03/19/2012
News flash......Bales a year before entering the military bilked a couple out of their life savings. He was ordered to pay back the couple 1.5 million dollars but never paid it back. I would say that his soldier should not be felt sorry for.
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
02:26 PM on 03/23/2012
Agreed. The more I find out about Bales , the less sympathy I have.

He appears to not only have been a swindler and con artist but also to have been convicted of it
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haleejr73
Don't believe me. Prove it to yourself.
04:22 PM on 03/23/2012
anitaroosevelt......He will definitly get what he deserves.
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Bruce Farmer
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05:50 PM on 03/23/2012
Don't be so ready to "agree" with haleejr73 before you find out what "really" happened in its entirety. Shame on you, too.
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Bruce Farmer
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05:46 PM on 03/23/2012
That story is not a "News Flash", and you either did not read the whole story or you took what you "say" out of context to make your incomplete and invalid point. I will not "correct" you via this reply because the 'whole' story is readily available via various news sources and you obviously don't want to know the whole truth or you would have posted a truthful comment. Shame on you.
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haleejr73
Don't believe me. Prove it to yourself.
11:40 PM on 03/23/2012
Bruce Farmer......Well, The news came from where Bales was from. After the first news came out about the bilking. The next story from the news said that it was he and another person. So what did I leave out? I'm sure that we all want to know. He was from Norwood, Ohio. I repeated the story just like the news reported it.
10:35 PM on 03/19/2012
I wonder how much blame should be placed on former President Bush and Gen Franks?? After all, while the CIA had Bin Laden cornered in the mountains of Tora Bora and were requesting U.S. military back up to block off any retreat, the administration said NO! We most likely wouldn't have let Bin Laden get away by paying bribes to the locals we had to trust. The Afghan War would have ended a long time ago and countless tours by our veterans would not have led up to this disgusting and very avoidable situation. I hope they call on "W" to testify why he took our eye off the target!
02:28 AM on 03/20/2012
It's not that black and white. The US deliberately went in with a small amount of mainly special forces and relied heavily on local allies to avoid getting bogged down with a large force like the Soviets did before. There were costs and benefits, but even knowing now it let Bin Laden escape, it still seems like the benefits outweighed the costs. The war could have been a lot more bloody. And, since preparing a larger invasion force would have taken far longer, Bin Laden probably would have been able to slip in to Pakistan anyway before we got to that cave.
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Celebrindan
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04:02 AM on 03/20/2012
Except for the fact that we built Tora Bora, for the Mujaheddin, during the Soviet occupation.

We knew it's entrance and exit points.

We left him an open door.
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
02:21 PM on 03/23/2012
What about Bush flying the bin Laden family members out of the U. S. immediately after 9/11 and refusing to let the FBI interview them ?

Catching bin Laden was the last thing Bush wanted.
09:41 PM on 03/19/2012
Shame on us.. with this solider we would not be here to express our opinions. I do not agree with what he dis,but lets put ourselves in his shoes. we should not pass judgement until we have expereienced his situations. remember an old saying.. People in glass houses should not throw stones. Let us give him the help his needs as we creating what made him do it. I had helped the Vietnam veternans and how we treated these soldiers is exactly what we are doing now. we split upon them when they came home, there was no honor guard waiting at the airports and most of them affected are not siting alone in Veternan Hospitals alone. See lets learn from this situation and not condone it.
10:07 PM on 03/19/2012
What has this have to do with anything. The man is a stone cold killer who needs to pay for what he did. I don;t need to put myself in his shoes
01:51 AM on 03/20/2012
You're delusional.
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ashydog
03:45 PM on 03/19/2012
when this story first came out, I posted my simpathy for this soldier, not making excuses but trying to understand, and I got ripped a new one. I am glad to see that other people feel the same, here people commit dispicable crimes for no reason they get a trial and some get away with it on a "technicality", I hope people see the reality of what might be going on in this soldiers mind.
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05:02 PM on 03/19/2012
the knot zees claimed PTSD, too.
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05:12 PM on 03/19/2012
The crime he committed was the same as any murder here in the US..... Alcohol fueled rage.
All these soldiers are going to be home soon and are you going to condone this behavior when they are on US soil.
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ashydog
03:20 PM on 03/20/2012
not sure where in the US you live but its already being condone, when ever there is a crime on a child,woman or family there is always the excuse of "mental illness" or some other crappy excuse and they get away with their crimes, we dont know what this soldier has seen.
10:09 AM on 03/19/2012
That soldier was deployed once to many times. His mind is short circuited. Maybe he should come home and do what other young men who's minds click on and off. What we do to our kids is criminal. They protect us, who protects them.
I think it's time to get out of Afghanistan. The leadership in the country is corrupt the majority of the inhabitants live somewhere out of the stone age and the dawn of civilization. They live the same way they did when Alexander the Great tried to conquer them. However I think that every opium poppy fields should be doused with herbicides annually by drone aircraft. Yes, I understand that that it might harm innocent civilians, but the opium from Afghanistan hurts millions of families around the world. By the way, what does Afghanistan have that we want beside mineral deposits. I don't want an Afghan rug woven by some girl who could be killed or brutalized because he family gets pissed at her. OUT NOW or follow General Sherman methods .
07:19 AM on 03/19/2012
This was a horrible thing. Ithink they should give him the death penalty, and probably will. How ever I also think they should give him a metal. Here is one man that has done more to get us out of a ten year war for then anyone else. Although his actions were dispicable, they also probably save more american livesthan we will ever know. The defense contractors own the politicians, and generals don't get another star unless there is a war. Who was going to end it? Nobody had the motivation. However this man's actions will definately take us down the path we should gone down 5 years before.
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09:08 AM on 03/19/2012
A medal for killing women and children in their homes in the middle of the night?
A medal for killing innocent civilians who have nothing to do with anything/
How do those acts save American lives? If anything they endanger other American lives.

Let me see if this box of rocks has an opinion also. I bet it will be smarter.
01:53 AM on 03/20/2012
"a metal" - Oh you mean like the kind you give a vampire - right in the heart? I agree.
07:08 AM on 03/19/2012
The combatants hide among their families in their homes and secretly attack the US compounds and set up the IUDs.

This area was known as just such a place. Now it's gone.

Good riddance. Let the Afghans fight their own war. We should be done after 10 yrs !!!
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08:54 AM on 03/19/2012
I think you mean IEDs. IUDs are quite a different thing.
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09:08 AM on 03/19/2012
Ignorant. Absolutely ignorant.
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07:05 AM on 03/19/2012
The chain is only as strong as the weakest link. The soldier wasn't the weakest link. The weakest link was in the management of the soldier. Lack of.
06:28 AM on 03/19/2012
There is no excuse for what this guy did, but does any one here think this guy was in his "right" mind to do somwthing like this? He will be punished no doubt about it. Lets hope we find out what happened to his mind or what he was thinking, so this might be prevented in the future. So many times when this happens they commit suicide or get killed, at least we can now get some idea of what he was thinking.
06:25 AM on 03/19/2012
The way I see it, a soldier is no different than a civilian. Everyone is different. Some are stronger mind wise than others. Some people can carry a lot more than others. Some handle mental anguish better than others. For this retired soldier, shame on him. So he served two tours and seems just fine. So what? Mister, others are just not as strong as you. If the Government doesn't want this to happen, bring the guys home. This happens in combat. Innocent people die. This just didn't happen in this war. This happened in Nam as well. And that was my era. Friends gone. War isn't easy on soldiers or family. It's time, we're done, get home. The poor women and children who lost their lives over there, so damn sad. Saddened for their families. That's war
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06:23 AM on 03/19/2012
how about all the arabs that killed our men over a stupid book??/
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09:10 AM on 03/19/2012
How about people who change the subject to distract from the murder of innocent women and children?
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09:53 AM on 03/19/2012
war is hell
12:17 PM on 03/19/2012
If a foreign military currently occupying our country were burning bibles in our streets I think there'd be some backlash from us don't you think?
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12:54 PM on 03/19/2012
maybe from the born again nuts
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06:13 AM on 03/19/2012
God Be With Us All In Our Time Of Need, for we are all sinners in one way or another, you are thee only one who can Judge this Man and you are thee only one who knows the truth. We, have our opinions which we are all entitled to, but, in thee End it is you who have the Last Say. May The Perpetual Light Shine upon us all and give us all the decency not to judge this Man and his Actions.
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05:57 AM on 03/19/2012
There are still people who try to show excuses for such tragedy.
Send him to jail and punish him. Otherwise this blood will stay in the hands of whole American army.
This murdering is in the hands of American Army yet. But if they will not punish Bale hardly like they didn't punish the torturers in Iraq, blood will splashed to all army.

You must identify what terror is. What this guy do was a total terror. Terror is not something done by the guerilla organisations. Terror can be done with the hands of soldiers. And If you see Taliban as devil and your child killer soldier as crazy poor veteran, it means you don't deserve respect.

Because there's no excuse for 9/11, There's no excuse for attacks to American civilians, And There's no excuse for the Afghans who was murdered inside their houses with their children.
If someone can find a reason for this and see a mass murderer as veteran, he shall start thinking what humanity is?

The real veterans are the American Soldiers who didn't kill civilians. They are veteran enough to serve for their country and human enough for not killing children.